The Solar PV Transition: What Comes Next?

By Stephen Lacey, Editor
October 21, 2010   |   7 Comments
Last week, the great solar champion Dr. Hermann Scheer passed away. Now during this symbolic time of transition in the solar market, the industry is asking, "what next?"

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awb
October 21, 2010
A very good analysis of what's going on in the global PV world, but I have to say that no one addressed what might indeed prove to be the biggest factor in the solar industry over the next few years -- and that is the price of fossil fuels, specifically oil. Now I know folks like to say that oil is a transport fuel and solar is for electricity, but in reality oil drives the entire global economy, period.

So it's sort of like trying to figure out how good a baseball team is by considering only their fielding. If they can't hit the ball, they're just not going to win many games. In the case of solar, if the price of oil drops to $40/b, there will be no solar companies really winning. On the other hand, if oil goes into triple digits, which most oil experts predict, it will turn into grand slam homers for most everyone.
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October 22, 2010
One of the things I've noticed in the peak oil literature is that they predict intense price volatility during the production plateau (2005 til around now). Unfortunately, $147/barrel oil followed immediately by $40/barrel + economy crash must make it difficult for solar people to plan ahead in this market.

I disagree that triple digit prices will be a grand slam. Like you said "oil drives the entire global economy..." Interestingly, my solar panels required a steel pole from Korea, a diesel fueled backhoe to lay a trench for cables, 18-wheelers to deliver parts from diverse areas of the country, bunker fuel for the ships to get parts from German and Japan, copper, whatever oil and precious metals the PV factory Kyocera used etc....

Triple digit prices mean we're screwed. This is probably what we're looking at though.
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October 22, 2010
The real question is not how much capacity there is for producing photovoltaic panels - the question is how much electricity do those panels provide? How much coal fired power has been pushed out of the market? How many tons of CO2 emissions have been avoided?

My beef with the solar salesmen like Mike Eckhart and Scheer is that they do not get what the energy industry is all about. It is not all about providing a stream of reliable income to people who own a roof by having taxpayers help them to purchase solar panels while charging all other consumers 4-5 times as much for electricity produced as it is worth.

Energy is about selling power to do work to people.

Unlike the unreliable panels that Eckhart is still pushing, nuclear energy plants have proven that that can push coal, oil and gas out of the power markets and they have proven that they can replace oil fired engines on board ships. If you really want to reduce fossil fuel consumption, stop buying into the sales pitch and recognize that nuclear is sustainable.

Rod Adams
Publisher, Atomic Insights
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October 22, 2010
Dear All,

The issue about Photovoltaics is wrong footed, because a number of variants do not add up to enable its exploitation to replace fossil fuels. Let me explain:

The earth's daily energy needs hit the 15 Terawatt mark and today's PV installations deliver (please shit down), only 0.04% of the mentioned 15 TW!

Where the hell the PV manufactures lead us? Do you know that to power the world, using Photovoltaics, we need twice the landmass of France? Are you also aware that the Earth rotates that the said landmass must circle the Earth? Well…, may be not!

A solar panel at its best, under laboratory conditions, offers efficiencies between 14-18%, which is translated into, 106 or 137 Watts per meter square.

But in the field, this efficiency can drop down to 2.5% or to 19 Watts per meter square. Please remember that at sea level and in o15 – o35 N, the average received Solar Radiation per meter square, at noon, is approximately 760 Watts. (Few suppliers like to square all things and claim 1000 Watt per meter square, which is wrong).

Solar thermal on the other hand, the way is used today, is more efficient, because is utilising up to 1/5th of the received Solar Radiation.

In EU, the paid price of €0.48 per kW is coming down at a very fast rate and the problem started to be a big issue. In the UK a installed Photovoltaic project needs to run for 25 year to pay back the initial investment, while in the Mediterranean countries needs 15 years, which is a bit better.

If you have any comments, please replay.

Dr. Evan Arkas
A heavyweight on Solar issues
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October 22, 2010
Where's the rooftop solar owned by consumers? We need to get local economies going with jobs and additional income in the everyday consumers pockets.

Possible ways to reinforce solar/wind powered consumer use.

1-No sales tax (either an exemption or a sales tax rebate) on solar/wind equipment.
2- Long term (to 20 year) remodeling loans (@2% or less) with lowered rates.
3- Permit fee waivers, or extreme building department discounts.
4- Fast track solar/wind permitting. Make available, "User friendly" assistance with all forms and all processes.
5- F.I.T. implementation. FIT to be consumer and small business driven. Allow a much higher than normal buyback KW rate from the utility.
6- Property tax incentives. Both abatements and credits. Property assessment waivers. At least for a five year period. No increase in taxes for clean energy equipment valuation.
7- Constantly share information on new developing ideas that have to do with clean energy use.
8- Understand the value of battery use (lithium or other). For vehicle or home.
9- Government entities to offer grants and other incentives for moderate, low income and non profit use. Davis bacon wage rates need to be waived in certain instances, for these grants to get more bang for the buck.
10- Offer consumer friendly (user friendly) applications. At all levels.
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Anonymous
November 6, 2010
Where are the solar plants owned by consumers? Where are the coal plants owned by consumers? Why would you want people who don't know how to operate power assets owning them?
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November 17, 2010
Quite ! So far many so-called "clean energy sources" are simply more products made with that which we are trying to become independant of !! What we need to "work for" is the day when Silicon Valley - if not at least some of the Chinese PV industry - is powered by - you guessed ? - its own product.
Is this just dreaming ?, if so, what on Earth is the point of it all. Horses - and grazing fields are the smart Long-term investment.
Likewise "Offshore wind". Very dapper. So what happened to Sails - on sships, that is. These are known to make quite a difference
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