When is Wind Energy Noise Pollution?

By Stephen Lacey, Editor
August 26, 2010   |   17 Comments

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1 of 17
August 27, 2010
I live in a very quiet rural village in Devon England. A couple of years ago I started to hear a very low frequency humming noise - not every night but on certain still and quite nights. I drove me crazy, not the noise itself but not knowing where it was coming from. My wife and son couldn't hear it and suggested I was going a bit mad.

Before seeking councilling I did the sensible thing and asked in the village pub. Sure enough it turns out the local water company had installed a small hydro turbine about a mile down river to power a water treatment plant. Maybe it was the shape of the valley, or noise travelling through water under certain conditons, but that was what I could hear. The funny thing is, as soon as I knew what it was I was fine, in fact I can't hear it anymore!!
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Anonymous
August 27, 2010
While I believe that tapping into wind power makes a lot of sense, I also believe that wind turbines should be sited far enough away from housing that they do not raise the ambient sound level.
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3 of 17
August 27, 2010
I can certainly appreciate how even relatively low levels of noise can be quite annoying. I live in a very mountainous area of southern Colorado where coal bed methane (CBM) extraction is taking place. Each well pad is powered by one or more industrial engines running 24/7, every day of the year. The state requirement here is not to exceed 50dBA by night. While one site running at that noise level may be no big deal, we are now literally surrounded by them. Add in trucks and drill rigs, and it is quite a cacaphony. Also, we get to enjoy the exhaust pollution from all of this equipment, and last month hydraulic fracturing impacted our water well.

Rural communities often have to pay the price for extractive energy development that is for the benefit of urban areas. At least the folks in Maine are reaping some rewards for the wind turbines that are annoying them. I am not saying that this isn't a significant issue that needs to be resolved, but I am saying that they should count themselves fortunate in comparisson. I'd take a wind farm development over pretty much any extractive energy development any day......
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4 of 17
August 27, 2010
"The 45 decibel limit is lower than compliance levels for airports, factories and highways. People seem to be able to live around those."

I beg to differ. Health studies of people living close to airports have shown illness related to noise. People can live in those areas but some of them may become sick.
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5 of 17
August 27, 2010
It's clear that some people can be hyper-sensitive to low-frequency sound. Others can't even hear it. That shouldn't be difficult to understand. Unfortunately, it's hard to test the effect before installation. I'm very pro-wind and pro-solar, but its clear that wind turbines should only be installed in industrial areas, very rural areas or offshore. You don't want an energy source to ruin people's lives.
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6 of 17
August 27, 2010
"installing noise cancellation equipment in homes" WHAT ??? Céili Bands? White noise machines??
Actually I agree with the first post. Once one understands a strange noise one can 'block' it. But not in all cases and definitely not in everybody's case. I run a B&B and will sleep through a storm but awake at a pin-drop if it's at the 'wrong time'. Ie a water pump (almost inaudible) at 3Am or a window opening.
I studied the effects of windmills in small rural communities 9years ago and it's clear that tolerance levels vary hugely. It's going to be a big problem.
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7 of 17
August 27, 2010
Certainly the safest approach is to ensure that the ambient sound level is not raised - hence the advantage of building off shore or in remote locations. I would say that it is misleading to phrase the questions as "When does wind become an unacceptable source of noise pollution?". Wind is natural, out of our control, and not man made. The problem with windmills being addressed here is the additional noise created by the turbines, mechanical systems, and wind passing the structure. This is certainly noise introduced by man.
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8 of 17
August 27, 2010
The spectrum of wind turbine noise from various systems - including low frequencies (infrasounds are often ignored) - should be analyzed. Understanding the spectral distribution and how it affects people might enable engineers to modify the systems to reduce the negative impact. I was in Spain this summer in the middle of a wind farm and astonished by how loud and annoying the sound proved to be.
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August 29, 2010
Hi:

TD, I feel bad for you in that situation, and agree, I would take wind turbine noise any day to what is happening around you.
I hate to say this but what you and other people are feeling from the NG companies and the associated gov support of such, is exactly what the USA has been doing for decades to other poor countries that have resources we want. We basically pass laws and guidelines that support the resource extraction, and then go in and take it. To hell with the indigenous people and their environment. It is classic "school yard bully rules" and until the victim gives the "bully" a bloody noise, it will continue without pause.
This type of action is responsible for allot of the retaliation the USA receives, which we label terrorism and the anti-USA feelings around the world.
I used to say, "responsibility ends with visibility". However, if the population of a given country turns a blind and non action bearing eye to the actions of its own government and supported corporations, which results in massive harm to other inhabitants, can the population be excused for their lack of knowledge and visibility relating to such...
I wonder......

.....Bill
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10 of 17
August 30, 2010
There is now fierce opposition in Maine to Industrial Wind Farms for a variety of reasons, that range from destroying views; to corporate exploitation of natural resources protected through decades of Citizen action.

One of the cutting edge issues is the sound of large turbines...and somewhat ironically, Maine has joined states which are cracking down on unmuffled Harley Davidson motorcycles.....Many Harley owners ride with illegal pipes and make a loud sound that can be heard for miles----try 10 on a quiet night, especially when it's a run.

So the discussion from a policy perspectives is often joined; and government policy planners find themselves with the same resistance to eliminating loud sounds that many, or even a handful of influential citizens find objectional.

There are are a wide range of sounds from wind turbines---tower, especially guyed towers noise, whirring, thumping, etc. depending on the speed of the blade, the pitch of the blade, etc.

The wind industry has reacted like bikers and tried to enact decible levels; but as any sound engineer will tell you, simply don't cover the full range of annoying sounds a wind turbine makes that will disturb sleep, artists, writers, and many others.

As opponents to wind farms get more sophisticated and better funded; you are seeing noise studies being introduced in public forums and legislative hearings. The same people introducing them one or two decades ago were the same people who introduced 'one-part-per-billion' toxic effects from environmental pollution using the precautionary principle.

Call it the quieting of rural America; but whether Harley bikes or wind turbines there is a battle going on in Maine over who controls the sound levels and types. .........and this is only one aspect of large wind turbines that is being quantified for legal & political action.
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August 31, 2010
HI:

I am sure the tech is available to make WT's allot quieter. If we can make choppers for the MIC that are quiet and stealthy so as not to be heard by people that are listening for them, I am sure the tech exists to quiet down WT's. As always it comes down to money. If they are not forced to do it, they won't...

.....Bill
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LSM
August 31, 2010
If the rumble of a locomotive traveling down the tracks at 50MPH or better, at all hours of the day and night and blasting its air horn at each crossing of a intersection, has no noise associated with it, then one could safely presume that the BILLIONS of TONS of COAL arrive at the coal fired power plants each year, all across the nation, with no noise impact on the surrounding environment. Did I forget the house shaking if you live within a mile or so of the tracks? Lets consider the entire process and supply chain before we make a decision. I'm sure that our ancestors were glad when their land was taken by eminent domain for the Rail Road right of way.
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September 2, 2010
Noise cancellation would be more realistic at the source. The thumping subharmonics are being coupled into the ground and bedrock by the towers, when the blades pass the tower as they rotate. Blades in free air don't make much noise - it's the tower and blade interaction that's most annoying. thrup, thrup, thrup I can think of a couple of ways to induce cancellation at the tower for that, which would at least stop the coupled and retransmitted vibration/subharmonics.
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September 3, 2010
Trying to regulate the 'infrasound' issue this is difficult without a lot more information exactly on how infrasound in wind turbines might be generated, in conjunction with epidemiological studies of the resultant effect this might have on human populations. I'm not saying there is no adverse effect in this regard. Rather, that it is extremely difficult to pin down in terms of a definitive and measureable/quantifiable cause/effect relationship that (with any certainty) can be used as a basis for a planning standard that won't get laughed out of the courtroom. The local Council looked at this, and decided that it was too expensive to research with the resources it had available, and so decided to set a standard based on audible noise. But even that proposed standard is costing ratepayer megabucks to defend against wind industry energy advocates. So there has to be some govt levy set up from wind farm developers/electricity generators to independently study wind turbine/human disease cause effect relationships and devise appropriate standards. JM2CW
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September 15, 2010
Estonia is a small country a little bigger than the state of New Jersey and Maryland together,in the US. Estonia has the economy of Cleavland and is currently producing most of its energy from oil shale. It has built several wind parks and hopes to build more and is flirting with nuclear. The smart cable is moving up from Poland and should be connected with Finland in about five years at which time if we at Energy Smart can prove our concept regarding the viability of solar energy in Estonia, Estonian farmers will be producing clean solar energy from our flat empty fields instead of competing with other EU farmers for agricultural subsidies. Anyone interested in more information contact us at
viido@energysmart.ee
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Anonymous
September 19, 2010
Strange that adapting a windmill to lower the noise level, reduces the power that's generated. I would expect that if a part of the energy is converted into noise, adapting that problem could increase the generated power.
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October 25, 2010
I moved to the countryside here in ireland 7 years ago, a lovely quiet spot very peaseful. In the mean time the ESB and COILTE have erected 7 turbines 1.5 miles from our home. This might seem like a safe enough distance regarding noise levels but no. Just to make one thing clear i am not against a greener energy and if these work then great but what iam against is if the noise levels are such that on some days when you would normally be outside you have to come in because of the noise levels, these are distroying our quality of life. Someone made a comment about making your home more sound proof to prevent this noise, most of the time I do not hear this in my house but is that to say we stay in our houses because of the noise outside get real. If I was to do that I would live in the city. Our lives have been total changed since these came along we spend less time outside in those lovely summer evenings which where meant to be spent outside are now finished. We spent 200,000 euro buying our house, we left our home city which is 200 mile away, it might not sound that far away in America or some other large country but in Ireland its 6 hour drive, We gave up jobs the lot to make a new life in the countryside and this is what they do. These big companies should not be able to get away with this sort of nonsense. I agree with a few comments made here that they should only be erected when it doesn`t effect the ambient noise. I am sick of hearing people saying that they would prefer listening to them over say an airport etc but its the constant same level noise that once you hear it you cant get it out of your head and thats a fact. People who have no experience should not comment on this issue and should find something that does effect you and comment on that please. So lets stop talking alot of crap about dbs`s and all that its simple, if the noise is effecting someones quality of life then this problem should be delt with in the proper manner please.
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