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Belgium Plans to Build Island to Store Excess Wind Energy

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January 21, 2013  |  44 Comments

As the U.S. progresses inch-by-inch to get a single offshore wind turbine constructed, Belgium announced that it plans to construct an island for the sole purpose of storing its vast amounts wind energy. According to reports, this is part of Belgium's plan to wean itself off of nuclear energy by 2025, which as of 2011 accounts for more than half of its energy production.

Government officials are confident that the island will solve intermittency issues that commonly occur in renewable energy production, such as wind and solar. The island will use a pumped-hydro system to store excess wind energy generated during off-peak hours, which will then be used to help satisfy the demand during hours when the wind isn’t blowing.

The three-kilometer island -- shaped like a horseshoe with a vast, deep reservoir located in the center -- is to be located three to four kilometers off the coast near the province of West Flanders. When the wind is strongest, typically at night, water will be pumped out of the reservoir through turbines and into the sea. When energy demand is high, the water will be let back into the reservoir through the same turbines. 

"We have a lot of energy from the windmills and sometimes it just gets lost because there isn't enough demand for the electricity," said a spokeswoman for Belgium's North Sea minister Johan Vande Lanotte to Reuters. Vande Lanotte revealed the plans last week during a presentation at the Belgian port of Zeebrugge. 

Belgium has just over 1 GW of wind capacity as of 2011, which accounts for about 2.9 percent of its electricity consumption, according to a European Wind Energy Association (EWEA) report. Belgium hopes to eventually establish 2,300 MW of wind capacity from its North Sea wind farms alone, which can help replace one of its two 3,000-MW nuclear plants. 

The project is expected to take anywhere between five to seven years to complete, and is dependent on the utility to stregthen the grid transmission system leading inland from the coast, according to Reuters. Vande Lanotte did not specify the costs of the project during his presentation, but said that he hopes to offset costs by selling excess power to other countries. He also said that countries, such as the U.K., would be able to directly connect to the undersea transmission if they choose, according to reports. 

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Dr. A. Cannara
Dr. A. Cannara
February 26, 2013
Galen, yes, I saw your demo at a green power show last year, I think.

The problem we have is twofold: a) the Carbon Cycle has been trashed for so long we cannot correct it for thousand years or so, even if we stopped all combustion at this moment; and b) the key parameters for any energy source are relative lifetime emissions and energy density.

If we examine all power sources & compare emissions & energy per unit area, volume, etc., we can make wise decisions.

On these scores, local solar has an effective power density near infinity, since no land is consumed for installations, but some land is used for materials & some emissions occur in the systems' life cycles.

The next best source is nuclear fusion, but we don't yet know how to do it, despite knowing it is as 'renewable' as the sun, depending on our future power demands.

The next best choice is nuclear fission, which has 1/100 the energy density of fusion, but about 1,000,000 times the energy density of our present fossil fuels, & it requires no additional fuel component -- combustion fuels need an oxidizer (Oxygen...). That last detail is something our present 'energy' companies fail to mention. Wonder why? NASA has to pay for its oxidizers!

At this level, the big step down from nuclear to anything else shows why nuclear power has always been recognized as our long-term, constant-power base. Make a fist & hold it up. That fist, if Uranium, will run all of NY City for an hour.

A coal 'fist' is many full, 100-ton rail cars straight from a coal mine. Then there are the emissions & the ash. Interestingly, coal ash is not only poisonous (arsenic...) but radioactive (Radium, Uranium...), because it naturally comes from deposits containing rock. And rock has all manner of elements contained. This is why our combustion plants have long been granted NORM Exemptions -- otherwise, they could not operate.

You can find a coal plant with a Geiger counter, but not a nuke.
Galen Maloney
Galen Maloney
February 26, 2013
All the readers of this article seem to have a keen interest in innovative solutions to the rising demand for energy and the consequences of meeting that demand with nuclear and or fossil fuel generation.

My father invented a process called Nautical Torque and it offers an innovative solution that would use the slow rise and fall of large vessels. Attached to a stationary gearing system, this kinetic energy can be turned into abundant (and baseload) renewable electricity.

Please visit the crowdfunding campaign we just launched to see our a video and explanation of this concept. And if you like it, contribute or at least spread the word. Only through action will things get done.

www.indiegogo.com/cahill
Dr. A. Cannara
Dr. A. Cannara
February 26, 2013
David, not sure I get your bone of contention and "intentionally over producing" -- "over" producing? If a utility can sell its juice up through full power, it's not "over producing".

Yes, countries buy power from one another as we do from Canada. So, I don't get what you think we're arguing over.

And, if Germany & the Swiss want to lose their nukes, so be it. They'll be sorry, as the politics is swamped by reality of higher emissions ans lower reliability. There's ood reason why the Russians, S. Koreans, Chinese, French & others are building out new nukes as fast as they can, and not just for themselves...

www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/nuclear-reiterates-importance-of-nuclear-in-sa-energy-mix-2013-02-21

www.upi.com/Business_News/Energy-Resources/2012/07/26/Saudis-Emirates-push-nuclear-power-plans/UPI-96201343332843/?spt=hs?=er

www.world-nuclear.org/info/vietnam_inf131.html
www.smartplanet.com/blog/bulletin/russia-banks-on-vietnamese-nuclear/13597?tag=nl.e660&s_cid=e660&ttag=e660

And, guess what, not only is Caltech right about standard horizontal windmills being inefficient, there's more reality...

www.rdmag.com/news/2013/02/rethinking-wind-power?et_cid=3110245&et_rid=54756821&linkid=http%3a%2f%2fwww.rdmag.com%2fnews%2f2013%2f02%2frethinking-wind-power

www.caithnesswindfarms.co.uk/accidents.pdf

Get those taxpayer subsidies while you can, mates!
;]
David Carl
David Carl
February 26, 2013
dralexc from comment 24, no one throttles a base load power plant. The problem with that statement is that a base load plant produces power at a level that is rarely or never exceeded by consumption. Therefore, to operate at a level to export to Switzerland means they are intentionally over producing. Exactly the situation I described and you tried to claim was false.

Not to burst your pro nuclear stance (I am not opposed to nuclear) you do know that Switzerland also imports large amounts of electricity from Germany (an 18% nuclear generating country) and so does France. Plus, Switzerland is phasing out it's 5 nuclear plants.
Dr. A. Cannara
Dr. A. Cannara
February 1, 2013
Yes indeed, Chris: "the subject is important". It's called being an "honest broker" of information.

Want to try it yourself, or are you less of a scientist, environmentalist or engineer and more of a person with $ interest in windmills?
Christopher Lee
Christopher Lee
January 31, 2013
Terribly sorry - they do keep warning us never to feed the trolls. Sometimes it's hard to resist though, specially when the subject is important and there are two of them with one (perhaps the same person) backing up the other.
Dr. A. Cannara
Dr. A. Cannara
January 31, 2013
Right on, Bryan.
Dr. A. Cannara
Dr. A. Cannara
January 31, 2013
Wow, Chris -- "comments like yours make it really difficult for private individuals to get an objective view of the renewables scene. No doubt your sort of corrosive approach is one of the standard techniques used by fossil fuel lobbies."

"Corrosive"? You mean like the seawater around offshore wind 'farms' that add to the expense of construction and operation?

And yes, I agree, Chris, that "comments like yours make it really difficult for private individuals to get an objective view "

If you don't get why wind/wave is inefficient and wasteful of resources & power, then don't be surprised when real engineers step in to help those you seem so concerned about.

But this is some good wind fun...
www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2013/jan/30/wind-turbine-blown-down-devon
http://tinyurl.com/bl9vlc7 ( a personal favorite)
Bryan Leyland
Bryan Leyland
January 31, 2013
One ton of water falling through 100 m is better than 10 t falling through 10 m because the cost of the civil and mechanical and electrical works needed for the conversion depends more on the flow than on they head. Low head turbines are inherently expensive. Huge penstocks are more expensive than smaller ones. Huge storage basins are seriously expensive. Regarding waves and tidal currents, I have considerable expertise. I am firmly of the opinion that, with one exception (a new wave device being developed by Prof Bellamy), none of these technologies can survive without huge subsidies. A hell of a lot of engineers have come to the conclusion that if the politicians are crazy enough to subsidise a basically uneconomic industry, they might as well get on the gravy train. But it does not alter the fact that wind power and solar power firms are struggling to survive. I do not belong to the fossil fuel lobby. In fact, I own a small hydropower station that directly benefits from New Zealand's crazy emissions trading scheme. Anyway, what I say should be judged on its merits and not assumptions about who is paying me. Billions of dollars have been squandered on global warming and scientists like the discredited Michael Mann have become extremely rich as a result. Likewise Al Gore.
Christopher Lee
Christopher Lee
January 31, 2013
@bryan-leyland

I know forums like this are regular targets for unsubstantiated categorical statements, but could you please explain why 1 ton of water falling through 100 metres is better than 10 tons falling through 10 metres?

Does your statement mean that everyone working on power from ocean waves and tidal currents is some kind of nut case?

Concerning your unsubstantiated comment on wind power, if such installations were confined to one small country where people are reputed to have funny ideas, you may possibly have a point. Conversely, if numerous countries adopt the same technology, we can conclude that a hell of a lot of engineers have made calculations that don't agree with your assertion.

Sorry to go on about this, but comments like yours make it really difficult for private individuals to get an objective view of the renewables scene. No doubt your sort of corrosive approach is one of the standard techniques used by fossil fuel lobbies.
Dr. A. Cannara
Dr. A. Cannara
January 31, 2013
Some engineering sanity -- thanks Bryan.
Bryan Leyland
Bryan Leyland
January 31, 2013
This idea is crazy in the extreme. First, efficient pump storage schemes need heads in excess of 100 m. 750 m is ideal. There is no way you will get such high heads from this scheme.

Secondly, wind power is very expensive and requires huge subsidies. This scheme spends even more money and generates no extra power. In fact, 25% of the energy is lost in the pumping and generating cycle.

If ever there was a scheme to throw good money after bad, this is it.
John Harrison
John Harrison
January 28, 2013
Concerning comment #20, I am not far off in capacity factor. This is a European initiative.

The Muir report shows a 24% CF for the UK over the period November 2008 to December 2010.
http://www.masterresource.org/2011/06/overestimating-wind-power-from-the-uk-ny/
An analysis of the European system shows for the EU 15, over the period 2003 to 2007, the 56 GW system had a CF of 21%
http://estaticos.soitu.es/documentos/2009/06/capacity_factor_of_wind_power_realized_values_vs_estimates.pdf

The high average CF for North America depends upon the high-wind Great Plains. In New York State by contrast, the CFs for 2009 and 2010 were 19% and 23%.
http://www.masterresource.org/2011/06/overestimating-wind-power-from-the-uk-ny/

The evidence from Ontario is that the larger, more modern turbines have average CFs from 3 to 6 % higher than the older machines, not enough to take Europe up to 30%.

The evidence from Ontario and else-where is that CFs decline by about 1%/year due to aging.
ANONYMOUS
January 28, 2013
Am i the only 1 who thinks 'DrAlexC' is a retard ?? ofcours you loose energy that is 1 of the basic laws of energy. the point is , during night you would trow all 100% of wind energy away cause its not used now we save by his example 75% thats better than normal powerplants who use 100% fossil fuels or nuclear energy and gives us 40% electricity. If you open your mouth make sure the shit is already out of it . I rest my case for now
Dr. A. Cannara
Dr. A. Cannara
January 27, 2013
"the Irish plan to flood shallow glacial valleys in Co Clare using wind-power and capture the hydro "

Gotta love those 'environmentalists' who don't seem to care about the environment!

Oh well, another piece of Irish beauty on the way out, eh? But at least their iGadgets will be charged.
;]
Angus Campbell
Angus Campbell
January 27, 2013
The Belgian Idea may have even more merit if a "hole" is placed inside an existing hydro reservoir. As the water is pumped out of the hole, it is emptied into the surrounding hydro reservoir where the energy can be recaptured in the normal course of hydro electricity generation. During times of heavy usage, this will raise the level of the reservoir some what with out actually adding more water. and the water will be used twice.
Peter O'Connor
Peter O'Connor
January 27, 2013
Similar idea to the Irish plan to flood shallow glacial valleys in Co Clare using wind-power and capture the hydro as the water flows back to the Atlantic. See http://spiritofireland.org/

Still seems a good idea to - even now when it seems to have been held up due to lack of vision by politicians and finances. Ireland could easily become a net exporter - we've already signed agreements with the British Isles to supply wind-power to them from 400 wind-turbines in the Bog of Allen.
Every unit of wind/wave/PV means less from coal - and that's a double plus.
ANONYMOUS
January 27, 2013
Angus writes in comment #25:
"We can pump the water out of the mine and into the ocean using excess wind power and when the need is there for electricity let it flow back into the mine producing electricity."

This sounds like it would pump heavy metals and other contaminants into the ocean, which is not a good plan. Possibly one could use a mine shaft as one of two isolated reservoirs in a pumped hydro scheme, but I wonder how many mine shafts are appropriate for such a task--certainly they were not designed with that in mind. One often reads about mine shafts collapsing--even without having water pumped into and out of them on a daily basis.
Steven
Bob Wallace
Bob Wallace
January 27, 2013
I think Germany is working on using some of their old mines for pump-up.

The idea makes sense to me. Many old mines already have water in them, so sourcing the water shouldn't be an issue. Many are quite deep which should present a lot of head.

The largest issue might be how close the mines are from transmission lines.
Angus Campbell
Angus Campbell
January 27, 2013
Let's take this idea a step further. Instead of building holes in the ocean, why not use abandoned coastal mines that are already flooded. We can pump the water out of the mine and into the ocean using excess wind power and when the need is there for electricity let it flow back into the mine producing electricity. I know of one place-Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, Canada where this would be feasible and the cost of digging the hole has already bean covered. Imagine the irony. One of the biggest polluters of the air actually contributing to green house gas reduction.
Dr. A. Cannara
Dr. A. Cannara
January 24, 2013
David says: "You will note I said from an energy standpoint. If I have a wind turbine already and at times it produces more energy than I need then a storage system is beneficial and operates on free energy." -- there is no 'free' energy, David. Your windmill, in use, degrades. Your 2-way transmission from an inefficient wind source to an inefficient, low-head pumped storage, then source, wastes considerable power. You must not be an engineer, because pumped storage needs considerable management -- short term and long term. If a storm or extreme wave action fills the reservoir, what will you do with your 'free' wind? When the need for the pumped output is low, what will ytou do with the 'free' wind that's not needed to refill the pond?

Then there's this oddity: "If I have a nuclear power plant already I have to operate it to produce excess energy to create pumped storage." -- again you seem uninformed. The French, like others with nukes, run them full out 24/7. If the Swiss & Italians want some of that, as the Germans now do too, then they just get what the French will have available.

No one throttles a base-load powerplant unless there's' a problem in the plant or the grid.
Dr. A. Cannara
Dr. A. Cannara
January 24, 2013
"It lets wind produce when it produces and makes the power available as users want it." -- at low efficiency and large environmental cost.

How 'green'!
Dr. A. Cannara
Dr. A. Cannara
January 24, 2013
WillDeliver a real name? Sure, the whales will love it. Ships in bad weather too. Gotta love the environment to death to charge our iGadgets, eh?
;]
Will Deliver
Will Deliver
January 24, 2013
Great concept! I see much more value to these islands as multi-use facilities. More than just storing excess electrical energy.
Every industrial park development needs a base tennant to ensure the developer can meet expenses. The pumped storage can meet this need.
Locating several of these islands close along the coast would create a tide breaker to reduce storm damage. These tide breakers could also extend a port facility farther out to sea, where larger ships could dock. Floating bridges could connect these Tide breaker/docks to the mainland. In our concept, we are pumping water OUT of the reservoir and the turbines generate with water running back into the tank.
Rain water would be a negative in our concept, so we would want to cover the reservoir and collect the rainwater for other uses. A domed greenhouse on top of a high rise community or a theme park are potential toppers. Fish farming within the reservoir would be another perfect addition. Algea could also provide another source of income to the project.
Bob Wallace
Bob Wallace
January 24, 2013
This project is all about the variability of and inability to schedule the wind. It lets wind produce when it produces and makes the power available as users want it.

Variable head is an issue but it may be offset by the ability to locate storage close to point of generation. This lowers transmission line size. And this is going to be much easier to site as opposed to locating/creating two reservoirs on land which are close together but at differing altitude.

What is lost in head can be made up with flow.

We don't know what the size of this first project will be but I would assume it will be modest - a test of concept.

The system may be less efficient than a typical pump-up hydro system but if the cost is sufficiently lower that can offset inefficiency.

You're way behind times on wind turbine capacity. On shore capacity in the US is 38% median and some farms are hitting 50%. Offshore is projected to be 43% median/54% max.

http://en.openei.org/apps/TCDB/
John Harrison
John Harrison
January 24, 2013
The project is certainly innovative. However, a drawback compared to standard pumped storage is the combination of the intermittentcy of wind energy and the variable head of water. Storing the full output of 3GW of wind energy for 10 hours will require a 100 metre head of water. The turbines will therefore need the capability to pump to a head of 100 metres. Yet most of the time they will need to pump on average to a head of only 40 metres. It is the same problem as with the wind turbines themselves - machines that on average produce only about 30% (less onshore, more off-shore)of their capability. I am not a turbine engineer but I doubt that a variable head system is capable of the 75% efficiency achieved by fixed head systems.
John Harrison
Scott Evans
Scott Evans
January 24, 2013
Great plan. It is a variation on a similar air bladder concept that was proposed at least 12 months ago. The pressure of the water is designed to be consistent, and the whole thing run very simply. Love it. Cannot wait to see the implementation, as I believe it will be replicated pretty quickly.
Great work by the Belgiums!!!
David Carl
David Carl
January 23, 2013
You are saying that because Switzerland is mountanious that the Swiss can pump water up hill more efficiently?

You will note I said from an energy standpoint. If I have a wind turbine already and at times it produces more energy than I need then a storage system is beneficial and operates on free energy. If I have a nuclear power plant already I have to operate it to produce excess energy to create pumped storage. That is energy inefficient.

An economic discussion is entirely different. Once the nuclear plant is built the cost to produce excess energy is minimal (but not free). Your argument seems to be based on economics of nuclear vs wind. With current technology nuclear wins.
Dr. A. Cannara
Dr. A. Cannara
January 23, 2013
Interesting, David: you assume that the Swiss don't know how to do hydro better than the Belgians, via mountains rather than a low-head island pond? Are you an engineer?

And: "They are taking electricity that would be wasted and storing it." -- is in reality: "they are taking 75% of energy that's generated at low efficiency and wasting 25% more".

You have thought about how wind works, right, David?
David Carl
David Carl
January 23, 2013
The Swiss are wise because they not only lose 25% due to pumping efficiency but lose even more in transmission loses by buying from France and then selling some to Italy? Maybe you are just pro nuclear and the Belgium plan is designed to get rid of nuclear, but from an energy standpoint the Belgium plan makes more sense.

They are taking electricity that would be wasted and storing it. The "Swiss plan" purposefully creates electricity so it can then be stored.
Dr. A. Cannara
Dr. A. Cannara
January 23, 2013
Wow. thought Belgians were smarter. Pumped storage is about 75% efficient, even in the best conditions. So now they'll waste 25% of their wind energy in 2-way transmission & pumping.

The Swiss are comparatively wise -- they buy French nuclear power at night to pump water into their hydro reservoirs, then in the am they use it and sell the rest to the Italians.


At least the Belgians aren't burning lignite, as the Germans are planning!

At some point, this naive political fetish against nuclear will dissolve, as reality and maybe stormy seas dissolve the "power island'.
;]
Galen Maloney
Galen Maloney
January 23, 2013
Denmark is also looking into this option. To add more energy capacity, they should include another type of renewable energy generation process called nautical torque. Ships, barges or tankers would sit in the reservoir and rise and fall with the incoming and outgoing water flow. These ships would attach to gearing systems on the stationary island and generate abundant electricity. Its quite a novel concept but will require designers and planners to multitask and be open to new ideas; something that is essential for all of humanity. Check out the idea at
www.nauticaltorquetechnology.com
Christopher Lee
Christopher Lee
January 23, 2013
The idea does seem to have got some people thinking (why didn't I think of that?...)

The island doesn't need to be far out to sea, you could use the seashore as one of the walls.

Dubai: that project shows that some kinds of people will pay a lot of money to live in unusual places; could be more fun than a cruise liner.

More multitasking: assuming the island and the generators have been paid for, it should be economical to boost performance by adding low-tech wave-powered hydraulic pumps; you don't need high flow velocities if you don't drive the generators directly. An offshore island would be a good inexpensive site for conventional wind turbines, but if people are living there we could think of more water pumps driven by wind-catching surfaces of large area that move slowly, safely and silently, and would function at low wind-speeds.
Bob Wallace
Bob Wallace
January 23, 2013
Good points, David.

The only correction I'd make is that lithium is neither rare or expensive.

This technology would be limited to places where the ocean is relatively shallow.

It seems that it would be fairly low tech to build a set of forms that could be bolted together to form the 'doughnut', pump out the water between them, pump in concrete, remove the outer form, and back-fill with sand to protect the concrete shell.

Once the forms were built they could be used over and over to make more holes in the sea.
David Carl
David Carl
January 23, 2013
This provides solutions to so many problems I am surprised several on here are critical of it.

1) It provides an energy storage solution that does not require rare materials (lithium) or dirty materials (lead). It also is proven technology as dams are located all over the place.

2) Cost? Build the islands in such a way that you have created beach front property. Dubais is not the only place you can do this. This helps alleviate Belgiums budget problems as the property is sold and then taxed.

3) Slow the rise of the oceans. If you use material from the ocean floor you can have a net increase of volume of the North Sea. Repeat this thousands of times (millions?) and the sea level drops an inch. Plus, the islands can act as storm barriers.

4) Remote location means less noise and site complaints for both the wind turbines which may be added and the facility itself. This is in conflict with selling beach homes on the island, but something can be worked out.

For those saying they should do this inland, Belgium is called the low country for good reason. Most of the industrial northern part of the country, i.e., the part that uses the bulk of the electricity, is 50 feet or less above see level. It seems easier to create islands than mountains.
Christopher Lee
Christopher Lee
January 23, 2013
Just for fun, I was thinking about tides; presumably if they do nothing the gains and losses will cancel out over a period, but if they play it right there may be a little bit to be gained.

The best site could perhaps be where tidal amplitude is greatest.

On the multitasking theme, the facility would be great for fish farming if there exists an energy-efficient way of keeping the fish inside.
Richard Mignogna
Richard Mignogna
January 23, 2013
This is quite a clever idea. I'd be very interested in how you go about actually building it... build up an island and then dig out the center? This is not going to be inexpensive though it would be really fun to work on.
ANONYMOUS
January 23, 2013
The concept is, in fact, brilliant. However, I'd like to know the total cost of the project and what's the ROI - when will the project be paid for by using the "free" energy.
Christopher Lee
Christopher Lee
January 23, 2013
@george-busby-31332 As a spectator, I wouldn't want to discuss questions of feasibility, but you make the necessary point that project deciders seem always to be incapable of thinking of combined solutions. Perhaps it's just too difficult. The obvious recent example is the project to put oceanic wind turbines on floating platforms, and the different projet to use floating platforms to capture wave and tidal energy.
george busby
george busby
January 23, 2013
It would be far more efficient to use a raised reservoir rather than a sunken reservoir to store excess energy as you can also capture wave energy at the same time.
If you build a fixed reservoir on piles so that the bottom of the reservoir is at sea level and the reservoir has one-way openings in its sides, water can enter through the openings and exit through turbines to generate electricity. Water will enter the reservoir if the water pressure from the incoming wave is greater than the water pressure inside the reservoir and so a head of water above sea level is created in the resevoir.
The reduced pressure from tidal flows below the turbines will also increase electricity output as will rainfall.
So by building raised reservoirs at sea you can store energy, capture wave energy, utilise some energy from tidal flows and rainwater, create an effective breakwater and all at a lower cost than the reservoir described above.
A Malik
A Malik
January 23, 2013
Pumped hydro without evaporative losses! I just wonder how much of a head this island-hydro has. Such islands can be built inland too and be part of recreational facilities.
ANONYMOUS
January 22, 2013
Bob writes in comment #2:
"Correction.

Belgium Plans to Build a Hole in the Ocean to Store Excess Wind Energy."

Of course, the reservoir has a floor otherwise you could not maintain a height differential between the water in the reservoir and the ocean and would not be able to store any energy. Thus, this is a true island and not a "hole in the ocean".
Steven
Bob Wallace
Bob Wallace
January 22, 2013
Correction.

Belgium Plans to Build a Hole in the Ocean to Store Excess Wind Energy.

BTW, it will be capable of storing any sort of excess energy. It could store solar for evening use.
ANONYMOUS
January 21, 2013
This is brilliant, I wonder what its capacity will be? For places not near a large water source they could pump water uphill and then use gravity to run hydro-gens.

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