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Renewable Energy REITs or MLPs Would Unlock Billions for Project Development

According to Richard Kauffman, Senior Advisor to the Secretary, DOE, making REITs or MLPs available for renewable energy project financing is the key to advancing the industry.

Jennifer Runyon, Managing Editor, RenewableEnergyWorld.com
December 17, 2012  |  31 Comments

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Top engineering, procurement and construction firms gathered to network, learn and do business with corporate-level project developers at the PGI Financial Forum, one of four co-located events that took place in Orlando, Fla. earlier this month. Richard Kauffman, Senior Advisor to the Secretary of the U.S. Department of Energy, gave the keynote address during a luncheon that took place during the conference.

During the luncheon, Kauffman explained to the 100 attendees that as someone who originated from the private sector, in his DOE role he is trying to understand where market forces can be harnessed in order to unleash the flood of investment that is needed to bring about large renewable energy projects.

Kauffman explained what he sees as a disconnect between returns in renewable energy projects compared to returns in other investments.  On the one hand, today, renewable energy projects are financed in what he called an “old-fashioned, archaic way” where for the most part, projects rely on private sector money that is looking for high rates of returns, typically around 12-14 percent.  On the other hand, money managers, wary of the stock market and its risks, have returned to the bond markets, which offer more steady (but lower) rates of return, in the 5 or 6 percent range. Kauffman explained that this “wall of money” that is looking for a stable rate of return, such as what can be found in the bond markets, could easily invest in renewable energy projects if only the financial vehicle existed that allowed it to.  Renewable energy projects with signed power purchase agreements (PPAs) will deliver a healthy rate of return to their investors, one that will be stable for 20 years, exactly what the money managers are looking for.

In other words, he said, there is all this money looking to invest in yield but it can’t flow to where it is needed because the financial vehicles don’t yet exist that would allow it to.

Enter Real Estate Investment Trusts (REITs) or Master Limited Partnerships (MLPs). 

According to Kauffman, REITs and MLPs, function like a bond and are currently used in more mature markets for project development. If they were available to renewable energy projects, said Kauffman, they would unlock loads of money for project development.  Two separate bills have already been introduced in Congress seeking to allow renewable energy projects to be financed through REITs and MLPs but neither bill has come up for vote yet.

Kauffman asked Financial Forum attendees to imagine for a minute what would happen if MLPs or REITs could be used to finance renewable energy projects. He asked attendees to imagine that they would have a yield of 5 or 6 percent and simply through that yield, the cost of capital would go down by 50 percent (since private sector funding demands returns in the 12 to 14 percent range.)

“But I think it would do five other things,” he explained.

First, Kauffman said that renewable energy REITs or MLPs would accelerate standardization in the contracting process.  With so many projects now eligible for project finance, the markets would demand a streamlined contracting process.  This would remove more of the soft costs from project development. 

Second, these renewable energy financial vehicles would continue to force down solar and other supply chain costs. Kauffman explained that we are good at logistics in the U.S. and if we were funding solar projects at increasing rates, we would improve the logistics in the supply chain.  He pointed to the decreasing costs of residential solar customer origination through the explosion in solar leasing as an example of taking costs out of the supply chain.

Third, Kauffman said all of this would then lead to greater market aggregation of smaller projects. Large projects backed by stable project developers already have no trouble finding money to fund their projects.  Smaller projects, however, have a much more difficult time finding cash.  If there were REITs or MLPs available to renewable energy projects, smaller projects could be aggregated.  This would again improve efficiency and unleash funding for smaller projects.

Fourth, Kauffman believes that REITs or MLPs would encourage innovation in the industry.  He said that capital markets are much better than banks at assessing risk.  If a bank provides debt to a large innovative project and that project is unsuccessful, it’s difficult for the bank to recover from that loss.  However, imagine a $100 million fund that holds a portfolio of projects. If one project defaults, the fund would still be able to recover because it would hold many other projects as well. “That’s why the capital markets do a better job at assessing risk,” said Kauffman.

Finally, if REITs or MLPs were available to renewable energy projects, the industry would scale very fast, which would again drive down costs and even open up the possibility of a forward market. Kauffman said that renewable energy is the only energy source that gets cheaper the more you make.  So, more projects coming online would help to align the supply chain and create a forward market.

Since renewable energy is all about the upfront costs, Kauffman believes that there hasn’t been enough thought put into how to reduce the cost of capital to finance projects.  REITs or MLPs could play a huge role in the future because the way renewable energy projects are being financed today just doesn’t make sense, said Kauffman.

The MLP Parity Act was introduced in Congress earlier in 2012.

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Alan McRae
Alan McRae
February 22, 2013
Great discussion thread! My wife & I are busy designing our solar homestead, and we strongly desire to become a model for an affordable, solar-powered, smart grid-connected rural homestead. The saltbox home design that we have been pursuing is ideal for creating lots of south-facing surface areas for solar technology mountings, so we are tackling the first problem for solar power in residential housing: an architectural design optimized for solar energy systems, rather than one optimized for conventional fossil fuel systems and traditional concepts of "architectural style". Most of the stakeholders in residential housing all have an interest in conventional architectural styles and "mainstream" energy & HVAC systems in order to have "broad resale appeal" and therefore minimize financing risks. This risk averse market system cannot possibly innovate in a radical new direction that requires embracing wholesale change in what we build and, maybe, how we build. Therefore, we clearly need an alternative system for creating a brand new generation of modern affordable solar residential housing that appeals to a green & cost conscious class of people who are eager to pioneer a truly workable solar future. Trust me, we are here and eager to get started - but Wall Street scam artists and get rich quick schemers need not apply. Values investors who seek a fair return for investing in a low carbon footprint future that also creates green technology jobs would be an ideal financial partner. Solar power leasing companies that can permanently attach a PPA to a home designed & built specifically for solar will find enthusiastic customer/partners here that are willing to pay a little more in order to "do the right thing". Read about our values & ideas at www.greenequitybuilders.org.
ANONYMOUS
January 14, 2013
Oh, brother. Stop the tax credits and depreciation write-offs and the REITs would be worth nothing. I guess getting Wall Street involved will make massive government subsidies permanent.
Maximilian Breckbill
Maximilian Breckbill
January 14, 2013
Doug McKenzie and Dennis Houghton, thanks for getting to the root of this. To me this looks like the best way average investors can finally benefit from the best value which PV investments have to offer; the PPAs.
ANONYMOUS
January 10, 2013
Higher than necessary costs of the projects to extract maximum tax benefits at the expense of other participating parties will be easier to hide in massive financing schemes. This also at the expense of tax and rate payers.
thomas childress
thomas childress
January 10, 2013
One key element in this scenario is the utility company itself. Most large scale and institutional projects are hampered by utility companies that do not want to purchase power, in spite of government mandates.

Without a cure to this ability to deny and delay a project from moving to PPA, all the financing in the world is useless. End road legislation is critical to the solar industry's ability to engage in a meaningful way.
ANONYMOUS
January 6, 2013
@JenniferRunyon Thanks for the great article. The passive activity loss rules (PAL) prevent most individuals from investing in solar projects to take advantage of ITC tax credits. These limitations would exist even for an MLP. Do you know if policy folks are looking to change the PAL rules to encourage more investments from high net-worth individuals? Thanks.
Anumakonda Jagadeesh
Anumakonda Jagadeesh
December 23, 2012
Excellent article on REITs or MLPs. They will boost up Renewable Energy Projects.
Dr.A.Jagadeesh Nellore(AP),India
E-mail: anumakonda.jagadeesh@gmail.com
dorothy allen
dorothy allen
December 20, 2012
Jeez...yes, REITs do not equal subsidies, but any cash flow spreadsheet I have ever looked at had major revenue sources as either state or government incentives. Very little of the revenue stream comes from actual power sales! Bundling PV installations and spreading the risk of unfortunate projects, so as to offer lower returns, would be great if subsidies were eliminated. I do not believe this is what is being proposed, but rather a fast race to the bottom. UL panel testing does not guarantee long term panel performance, hence need for third party insurance. And to assure that panels do not just increase the efficiency but overall environmental performance such as ghg emissions, is EXACTLY why we should question HOW panels are made and where. One can have panels that emit 20 gm CO2eq/kWhr and those that emit 200 gm/kWhr but all we hear from NREL etc is that all panels manufacturing is great and eqqual. This is BS and IF we are looking for wholehog chageover in energy production we should be worried by order of mangniture impact of ghg emissions of the new energy source.
JD Polk
JD Polk
December 20, 2012
Were in God's name does REIT = Government Subsidy ..I have to assume it is the way most are set up with Tax Advantages FOR YOU TO EVEN BEND THE TRUTH AROUND TO SUCH BS...There is no government hand out here folks... and There is no government agency setting these up... they are set up and ran by private enterprises...with private funds SO PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS IRRESPONSIBLE SPREADING OF ABSOLUTE LIES?
Dennis Houghton
Dennis Houghton
December 19, 2012
The small scale, point-of-use solar PV system will probably be how PV will dominate the global energy future. Regretably, This market offers little opportunity for large investments through REITs. The emerging model might be as is being seen in previously unelectrified Bangaldesh. More than 1 million microsystems (>100MW total capacity) were installed during the past two years through micro loan financing largely through Grameen bank. What value do a 100W module, a battery and and LED lamp have for young students who only had kerosene lamps before? The monetary value of the electricity produced is trivial. The cultural value will be seen in the future
Doug McKenzie
Doug McKenzie
December 19, 2012
Dorothy, I'm totally serious that solar will be one of the dominant energy sources. One day in May 50% of electricity used in Germany came from solar. 20 gigawatts, the output of 20 nukes! It was just for a few hours, but it shows what's possible, in low-sun, cloudy Germany, and we're just beginning. Solar prices are dropping and will continue to forever, while non-renewable prices will rise, dramatically as the externalities of health costs, environmental damage and global warming are factored in.

People who object to REITs "by extension" because they object to subsidies, are either fools or are not paying attention. Objecting to subsidies is disjoint from whether solar REITs should be available. It's also disjoint from logic to object to subsidies for new, clean, renewable, job-creating technologies while accepting them for old, highly-profitable, dirty, resource-depleting and highly-automated fossil fuel operations. Regardless of subsidies, REITs are a way for the general public to get involved in solar.

I can't make sense of your argument about comparing the LCA of solar panels with the grid (apples and oranges), instead of apples to apples with other power-producing plants such as coal.

It'd be OK to consider various manufacturing techniques in subsidies, but it would be very complex, ever-changing, and have a small effect. Panels recoup their manufacturing energy in a very few years. For coal and nukes, it's as long as never, if you take health and environmental effects into account.

No, the 30-year old panel is not NASAs. It's from Arco solar, bought in 1980. Here's the story (from Renewable Energy World!):
http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/blog/post/2012/10/solar-panels-outliving-their-warra

Of course the Chinese panels are tested, if they have the UL etc labels. Maybe we'd bring more manufacturing to the US if fossil fuel interests and their shills stopped the disinformation campaigns.
dorothy allen
dorothy allen
December 19, 2012
Doug, there are folks that are positive about PV but you can't be serious about anyone forecasting the replacement of fossil fuels by it but rather at best a marginal slice of electricity production in the future. People do however object to government subsidies of PV and thus by extension REIT etc. financing schemes. I mention the Chinese PV manufacturing by coal electricity so as to compare PV production with a lower emitting grid (US or Germany) not to compare it to coal plant construction. Why should all PV be subsidized equally when some LCA emissions are greater than others? The thirty year panels you mention were probably made by NASA and are still orbiting the earth. No mass produced Chinese panels have thus been tested. Insuring panels against underperformance of all sort certainly must add to the cost, as does poor project development or end of life disposal. Permitting is not the only soft cost and power purchase agreements can certainly result in poor financial outcomes for either party. If projects are sold bundled by Wall Street we can be sure only the Chinese and the finance sector will benefit. Installers may do well both in assembly and dis-assembly. Funds will dive and the planet will cook.
Jennifer Runyon
Jennifer Runyon
December 19, 2012
@doug-mckenzie: Thank you for your thoughtful comments.
Doug McKenzie
Doug McKenzie
December 19, 2012
Dorothy, there's lots of progress on all fronts. It can seem painfully slow. Solar panels made 30+ years ago are still performing up to manufacturers specs. In order to stay viable, third tier panel manufacturers are lining up underwriters to guarantee products even if the manufacturer goes under. Many organizations are helping consolidate best practices, for example CPF's solar permitting database (http://www.cleanpowerfinance.com/2012/09/clean-power-finance-announces-national-solar-permitting-database-to-reduce-soft-costs-of-solar/) or SolarTech's Solar 3.0 (http://solar30.org/about/). Using coal to produce solar panels is mostly a red herring. Would you rather use coal to produce coal plants? Most panel manufacturing payback time is 1-3 years now, and improving. There are a LOT of people against solar power. That's why we hear so much FUD, such that 'it will never replace fossil fuels.' Of course it will - only a matter of time. The US will be choosing whether to be in the lead or following. With solar REITs and MLPs, we're talking about equities on regulated exchanges. There's no more danger than with any other stock. Trying to suggest there will be massive bailouts on the scale of great recession bailouts is just trying to scare people. Yes someone did equate REITs with CDS. 'Anonymous' said: 'Explain to me how these REITs are NOT the same as the Credit Default Swaps that were the root cause of the financial crisis we are now experiencing?' You seem to be trying to prove that REITs and MLPs which are well regulated, time-tested ways for ordinary investors to get into good investments are super dangerous, by linking them with the subprime mortgage bust. That's nonsense. Among many big differences investing in solar is not like investing in houses or paintings or gold. Solar is a producing asset. You know your kWh production for decades into the future, with a few percent margin of error. Very appealing, and getting better all the time.
Erik Kiehle
Erik Kiehle
December 19, 2012
SUPER HUGE WHOPPER OF A COMPARISON FAIL.

>He said that capital markets are much better than banks at assessing risk. If a bank provides debt to a large innovative project and that project is unsuccessful, it's difficult for the bank to recover from that loss. However, imagine a $100 million fund that holds a portfolio of projects. If one project defaults, the fund would still be able to recover because it would hold many other projects as well. "That's why the capital markets do a better job at assessing risk," said Kauffman.

A fair comparison would be the bank to the fund. Either one can suffer a loss on an individual investment/loan but rarely if ever will that threaten the overall health of the bank or fund.

"That's why the capital markets do a better job at assessing risk" says the government official. Once again they say the wizards on Wall St. are the magicians who can fix everything! Already the memories of CDS and mortgage backed securities are forgotten. Not to worry everyone, Wall St. has the fix. Just send them all your money.
JD Polk
JD Polk
December 19, 2012
The two RE's Real Estate and Renewable Energy go hand in hand...
and it is about time the World came to grips with the fact that the are both "Joined at the Hip".

Like I have proposed for over 10yrs now and it is just now coming to fruition.
The best REIT is the REIT of the Future..just like the best home is the home of the future one with little to no electric bill.

example:
take 10M USD buy 100 60K to 70K Homes (because i export more RE Equipment than peratcally anyone in the Western Hemisphere I get the rite pricing thru volume)so I cane rehap the homes with RE Methodologies and Now you have a 3/2 1200sqft that does nothing but grow in value...and the 1600.00rent is the gravy...
NOW ASK YOURSELF SIMPLE QUESTION...WHICH EXACT SAME HOME WILL RENT FASTER AND STAY RENTED LONGER?
WITH $150 ELECTRIC BILL OR NONE?

NOT ROCKET SCIENCE FOLKS...

EPHOTINC
NOT4PROFITSOLAR4ALL.ORG
dorothy allen
dorothy allen
December 19, 2012
I agree Doug that, "There's a recognized, industry-wide need for high quality and consistent standards, in manufacturing, installation and inspections as well as financing." Unfortunately I see no research or progress in this area. The same old LCA refernces being recylced by NREL and some work in Ultecht U in this area is pathetic. In the meantime most, lets call them "inexpensive", panels get manufactured in China with coal electricity (high GHG emissions) and with warranties of, lets call it "dubious", 30 year period. Also, do not forget lack of planning for disposal of massive amounts of junk at the end of useful life, whatever the length.
No one is against solar power. The technology itself is not threatening. It will never replace fossil fuels. However, involving uninformed investors and greedy finance industry may result in tax and ratepayer bailouts because of inferior project development. Also, no one is equating REITs with CDSs, only these are brought up because in absence of quality control and adequate supply of viable projects trading of CDSs and synthetic solar projects will become a temptation as it did with subprime real estate.
Phil Manke
Phil Manke
December 19, 2012
Jenifer, in the last PP you state "RE is all about upfront costs." This view reflects the spin of this article. It may be just this that some capital markets may want to see addresed, but is wholey untrue. In my view, RE is about the long term over-all benefits, and investors in money markets focus on the quickest short term gain. Now that RE looks more promising to "money people", they would willingly impose their corrupted values onto the most promising value of it. I have small, if any, appreciation for money manipulators who ride on economic gains of actual worth production for their own graft of illusionary benefit. It is the reason we are in an economic downfal at all. Honest scaled production incentives would move RE into a prominent place in energy for the world, while larger projects will motivate themselves on the merits.
JD Polk
JD Polk
December 19, 2012
Building a Revenue Stream

Starting with Stage 1:
Building solar farms for several entities in Dominican Republic
This has very good return
Dominican Republic is part of the Carbon Offset Credits
It is our plan to become the Alternative Utility company for the entire country of DR as we have more waiting in the wings to sign on to PPA's.
Stage 2: we will immediately begin the buying of Foreclosed Properties in South FL, South GA, and Jacksonville FL market for retrofitting of
Alternative Energy Methodologies
And placing them with Superior Property Management Groups in respective areas. This will be a 5 yr Hold and Rent with resale when market turns.
You can not pick up any Real Estate periodical that does not have some article about the Investment Groups (hedge funds) that are already scoping up the Forgotten Land Grab that these Bargains have created....not to mention the economic re-development of the respective neighborhoods.
Stage 3: Building and selling Low Cost Solar Powered Micro Housing for Disaster Relief as well as Selling to Emerging Markets like Mexico, Caribbean, Central, South America and China, Africa, India
The 3rd largest problem world wide in all major metropolitan areas is simply not enough low cost housing, let alone one with little to no electric bill…
#1 is clean drinking water #2 is adequate health care.

JD Polk
SolarManJD@DCemail.com
James Leavenworth
James Leavenworth
December 19, 2012
For the life of me I can't understand how Anonymous can equate Reits with Credit Default Swaps. I own several Reits in my portfolio and I'm satisfied with their steady and substantial return, both the pps and yield. I look forward to promising alternative energy investments using Reit and MLP companies and plan to email my Congressman and Senators in support of the MLP Parity Act soon.
Dennis Houghton
Dennis Houghton
December 18, 2012
REITs have several significant constraints. Among others, 95% of income must be from rents or fees directly from the real estate that the REIT owns, not from selling and holding paper. A Reit must have more than 100 shareholders and no fewer than 6 can own a combined 50% of the shares. Income or tax credits must be passed through to shareholders each year. Essentially diluted corporate power and actual ownership of real property. Generally honest and conservatively boring management in most funds but greed can show up anywhere. A REIT actually can allow a group of small investors with good ideas (or land) to combine with a few big investors in a beneficial way. If a PPA can meet a threshold return for a renewable project for twenty years it is as viable as many other types of projects dependent upon rent paying tenants.
Doug McKenzie
Doug McKenzie
December 18, 2012
Thanks Jennifer for the article. This is a very promising area.

Anonymous, you seem more like an anti-solar partisan than someone looking for opportunities and growth in clean energy. Top-tier panel manufacturers' panels last well beyond their 25-year warranties, not 10 years. The fact that the awful Yugo car was made for a while doesn't render investments in all car companies risky.

There's a recognized, industry-wide need for high quality and consistent standards, in manufacturing, installation and inspections as well as financing. The fact that financing will (hopefully) come from solar REITs or MLPs traded on regulated exchanges will lessen overall risk. As chris-geiger said, CDS are a different topic. CDSs are insurance policies that investors can take out to hedge or protect against defaults. These protections will be embedded into the solar EPC contracts (for example as penalties for time or cost overruns) and PPAs (for example as kWh performance guarantees). Lastly, anxious investors in solar REITs and MLPs can buy puts for insurance if they choose - no need for exotic or obscure CDSs.
ANONYMOUS
December 18, 2012
"That's why the capital markets do a better job at assessing risk," said Kauffman. This is a problematic statement for me. The capital markets are not better at assessing risk they are better at absorbing risk, and that only to a degree ( note 2008 meltdown). I can see several years into the future of this type of project ownership where the projects will be largely inferior panels that will last ten rather than thirty years cutting down returns by 60%. Without quality control this WILL take the form of the trenched real estate market where no one knows what the trenches are. I would bet my money on the short side of RE CDSs, and I am sure they will exist.
Chris Geiger
Chris Geiger
December 18, 2012
also ...to "anonymous" REITS & MLP's are invesntions of Wall St this is true, that's about where the similarities between them and CDS's end. a CDS is a bet either for or against a company FAILING. they paid an absurdly high Rate of return - which of course attracted a ton of investment. REITS & MLP's do not pay high rates of return, their attractiuon is LONG TERM STABLE rates of return - thats why u will see lots of pension fund money in these types of investments. we are looking for ways that RE in the US can survive & thrive WITHOUT SUBSIDIES - this is a way that they can!
Chris Geiger
Chris Geiger
December 18, 2012
The Oil & Gas industries have been using REIT & MLP structured investments for years as it is a very good way to invest in these types of projects. the cost of capital for renewable energy projects is restrictive, and it neednt be if the same rules that are applied to the oil & gas industry are applied to RE
ANONYMOUS
December 18, 2012
Is this guy serious?
"That's why the capital markets do a better job at assessing risk," " said Kauffman.

Has Kauffman been living on another planet these past 5 years?

Big finance, Wall Street, Hedge Funds, Real Estate Investment Trusts or REITs are the cause for the housing bubble/bust along with resulting crash in all equity markets.
Niels Wolter
Niels Wolter
December 18, 2012
Here in Wisconsin, the electric utilities do not support a bill that is being developed to allow PPAs/leasing/third party ownership. Alas, I would expect them to be against this as well.
ANONYMOUS
December 17, 2012
Explain to me how these REITs are NOT the same as the Credit Default Swaps that were the root cause of the financial crisis we are now experiencing? Any financial "instrument" that uses the volatile real estate market should set off sirens and red flags. When someone invents a method of deriving energy from a renewable source that is cost effective and allows us to run farm equipment, airplanes, power plants, etc., the world will beat a path to his or her door with boxcar loads of money.
Chris Geiger
Chris Geiger
December 17, 2012
Thx Jennifer! look fwrd to watching the interview!
Jennifer Runyon
Jennifer Runyon
December 17, 2012
@chris-geiger: Thanks so much for the comment. I attended a session at Renewable Energy World North America conference and expo last week that was a panel of energy policy experts from many energy sectors (nat. gas, nuclear, solar, hydro, coal). When this topic came up, there seemed to be universal support from the all of the representatives, meaning that there might not be much opposition to renewable energy projects being allowed to use this type of financing. I think the main hurdles now are simply working out the details. SEIA's Rhone Resch told me since it's a complicated issues, the bills that have been introduced in Congress may not be what ultimately come into law. However, simply their introduction is a good start. We should be posting that video interview soon.
Chris Geiger
Chris Geiger
December 17, 2012
ive read a fair amount about this idea. as someone who works in renewable energy finance, i can easily see how this tweak to the tax rules would benefit our business. what i dont understand is who would be against this small change? it doesnt take away anything from the oil & gas industry, and it will spur investment, and with that jobs most likely.

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