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Supporting a Real Job Creator – the U.S. Solar Industry

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November 14, 2012
Installers jobs can't be outsourced. That is a good one. As the cost of installation becomes a higher and higher percentage of the final installed cost manufacturors will find ways to make it easier to install, thus reducing the need for installers.

We are in a slow growth environment where 150,000 new jobs a month is considered good while in past administrations it would be considered poor (horrible?). 13,872 jobs (a year) is better than no jobs but it is hardly cause for celebration.
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November 14, 2012
What good are jobs 'created' by gov't spending or tax incentives? After all, the gov't could end unemployment tomorrow by hiring 5 million people to dig holes all day and another 5 million to fill them in at night. The numbers would look great. Re-election city! But overall we'd be worse off.

Solar installations are more useful than filled-in holes, of course, but 'jobs created' is still a poor metric. All else being equal, we want the technology which provides our electricity using the LEAST number of workers. "Solar eliminates 20,000 coal jobs while only hiring 13,872 new installers" would be good news. That's anathema to politicians, however, which is why we should keep them out of it as much as possible.
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November 15, 2012
doggydogworld is correct. What gets ignored in all of this discussion of jobs is climate change. If you are young and want a good job, train to become a civil engineer. We are going to need lots of civil engineers to futilely build dikes around our coastal cities. Somehow I think we are better off hiring solar installers now rather than civil engineers later.
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November 15, 2012
Good discussion. Yes, more expensive energy = more jobs, which on its face is problematic. But solar provides not only the GHG benefit (pushed shockingly to the fore again with Sandy) - but as a renewable source, each solar system will still be generating clean energy long after the capital costs are recovered. Every kWh of electricity provided by burning coal is gone, and must be re-supplied with dirty methods, despoiling of the land, and unsafe worker conditions, over and over. While those beautiful solar panels just sit there generating power (with periodic inverter replacement), usually long past their design life.
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November 15, 2012
Solar installations typically require a) Design of the system, b) actual purchase and transport of material, c) Installation and d) Electrician verification.

Thus the number of "solar jobs" does not represent the architects, truckers, inspectors and utility personnel involved. If you have 4 installers on the roof, there are at least 4 other people who had employment due to the installation.
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November 16, 2012
A typical 5,000 ac solar facility located on public lands in the desert southwest employs 25-35 permanent employees, but these are taxpayer subsidized, and the solar facility itself (in combination with hundreds of others) destroys our natural heritage native ecosystems leading to species loss, public health problems, etc... Desert soils when bulldozed release as much carbon into the atmosphere (see studies by Allen, Schlesinger, etc...) than is offset by not burning coal. On the other hand, decentralized generation near the source of use of the same KW volume (rootops, parking lots, etc...) has been shown to create 4-10 times as many permanent jobs, while not killing off our ecosystems. The details matter, a lot. Big solar doesn't create jobs, it creates a mess. Decentralized solar is the way to go, and from every perspective.
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November 16, 2012
@dave, I'm not sure how that's in conflict with something I wrote. If you want to enhance climate change (warming), releasing additional carbon into the atmosphere (GHGs) is one way to do it. DG won't do that, bulldozing hundreds of thousands of acres of carbon-rich desert soils does. And many of the big solar projects use extensive amount of water, both for cleaning panels, and for generating steam (solar thermal)
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