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Federal Report Quantifies PV Solar 'Soft Costs'

By Ucilia Wang, Contributing Editor
November 9, 2012   |   8 Comments

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November 9, 2012
Most trade's prices end up being 50/50, split between time and materials for most jobs. The extra permitting and beaureaucratic fees mentioned are the killer. Also installation guidelines increase costs, especially when rooftop installations are required, even if it is not the best location, and particular system sizes are required, even if not necessary or wanted.
Other costs mentioned such as marketing and advertising has killed out many companies over the years since the customer base and general public knowledge is far and few between. So companies need to find cheap ways to get the word out to as many as possible to encourage the public to get on board. The 'no job too small' mindset should apply, since this is the real way the RE business will grow. Thousands of people with any size system for all to see rather than one expensive system somewhere in the city.
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November 10, 2012
The Author said:

"...Lowering the soft costs seems more daunting mainly because some of the major challenges lie with figuring out local laws and wading through a bureaucratic process..."

Thomas said:

"...The extra permitting and beaureaucratic fees mentioned are the killer..."

But the NREL study quoted says that permitting costs account for only a few percent of the total. Changing or even eliminating permitting processes will have little impact.
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November 10, 2012
"Reducing soft costs is a major goal for the solar industry because it ultimately wants solar energy to price comparably with electricity from fossil fuel power plants. "

Then you have to include storage so hot backup is not required to cover for passing clouds. And then there are winter days without sun. Limiting the areas where solar can be applied cost effectively.
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November 10, 2012
Is that you Sunflower?
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November 10, 2012
Thomas said:

'...The extra permitting and beaureaucratic fees mentioned are the killer...'


Russ said:

But the NREL study quoted says that permitting costs account for only a few percent of the total. Changing or even eliminating permitting processes will have little impact.
rack their changes over time'


the article said:

'The NREL study sought to systematically quantify the soft costs, on which little data have been collected to study their impact and track their changes over time


Hard to base an opinion with very little data.....
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November 11, 2012
Sometimes the soft costs are limited by the customer's awareness of what participation is required of them. And, each customer has a unique set of circumstances that hinder the formation of uniform processes to make certain soft costs lower in price. For instance, customer signing of contracts for financing or other terms agreed upon can be hindered by the customer over promising the availability of their time for reviewing the agreement, their trust in the protections offered to them, lack of financial information available for credit checks, the lack of preparedness to streamline signing. These types of issues require the installer or whoever interfaces with the customer to dedicate their time to serving them satisfactorily. Even if it means you need to sacrafice many hours to make them happy because this is alot of money for a customer to invest in.
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November 12, 2012
If you don't measure it, you can't fix it. This is a good start. Too bad the Germans have to a provide a benchmark: in spite of paying more for modules they pay way less for systems. Compliance is a difficult proposition in America for any type of equipment. In the US there are 14,000 minor authorities that have jurisdiction (AHJ) and 201 major AHJs. Within that there are ~25 separate compliance regimes for electrical safety alone. Frequently the minor AHJs are commercial utilities. Designing commercial and industrial equipment which achieves compliance is very challenging. This is exacerbated by jurisdictions that do not recognize certifications of conformance even those provided by third party recognized bodies. Although there are national standards, they have less relevance than most people think. I have personal experience with certified product which required substantial field modifications in order to comply with local jurisdictions requirements (can't say 'standards' as some of these requirements are not formalized). On the other hand, one compliance regime spans all of Europe, most of southeast Asia and parts of South America. With a few enhancements to comply with Chinese standards, it is possible to produce equipment that can be certified and will be accepted in more than 2/3rds of the world. China's approach seems exemplary: adopt global standards and then add greater definition. This is very different than the US wild west experience. One of the things that stands out is that large scale rooftop is more expensive than ground mount. This is not a surprise: commercial facilities have many more concerns related to public safety, fire prevention, insurance risk, interaction with building codes, etc. This will naturally increase permitting costs. In the US, an important consideration is aesthetics and view-sheds which present significant soft and hard cost components peculiar to the US market.
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November 12, 2012
You can catch the NREL sampler at http://vimeo.com/53108607
Building codes may also be a German advantage. I've observed German construction and (having worked in commercial construction myself) was amazed by the sheer scale of their structures: these people truly build to last centuries. When working on requirements for rooftop solar framing systems, we noted that American residential and agricultural building codes seemed marginal, especially for combined precipitation and wind loads. Consulting insurance statistics confirmed this: a lot of roofs fail every year even without the additional load of a solar installation. Consequently, engineering studies for rooftop installations, though a substantial cost, seem necessary for many parts of the continent.
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About: Ucilia Wang is a California-based freelance journalist who writes about renewable energy. She previously was the associate editor at Greentech Media and a staff... more »

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