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BP: Too Big to Fail?

By Matthew Ulterino, Contributor
February 8, 2012   |   14 Comments

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1 of 14
February 8, 2012
Unless technological breakthroughs are being suppressed (or have been), BP is confident in the fact that Renewable Energy is not going to replace existing energy supply. Renewable energy poses no significant threat to the the oil industry, something many people don't understand.

So why so much fuss on anthropogenic climate change? Do you even think BP believes in it? Sure is a convenient distraction whether it exists or not.

Our energy supply isn't changing in the next few decades unless some extraordinary energy storage technologies surface.
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2 of 14
February 8, 2012
Why don't we focus on keeping the message; "We are going to make it more profitable for you to make your money with clean energy"? BP is a for profit company. Because of the pressure by the Green movement BP is shifting its energy SLOWLY BUT SURELY. BP will be one of the biggest investors in renewable energy because they do NOT care how they make money in energy they only care about MAKING THE MOST MONEY POSSIBLE. BP Solar, BP Wind, and any other energy that can be sold for a good profit is what they care about. They are not rich and powerful because they are idiots! By putting pressure on them to look in other places we force them to work harder than they like but they are looking for new energy sources to keep their company profitable. Give them a CLEAN ENERGY SOURCE where they can make more money than oil and they will drop oil faster.
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3 of 14
February 9, 2012
It's funny how the non-believers continue to bury their heads in the sand. Solar is going mainstream, especially here in NJ. As an investment, ROIs are averaging 15% for residential and 35% for commercial systems. Systems can be seen everywhere. And solar leases now make it possible to have solar for the masses.

Let the giants keep ignoring these facts. We'll just continue to plod along in our "no significant threat" manner...sort of like the tortoise and the hare!
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4 of 14
February 9, 2012
kgrossman: you take the words right out of my mouth! I also strongly believe that these mammoths (incl Shell and Exxon, to name a few) will jump as soon as they see the financial benefits tip over to the renewable site. They have already sniffed at several of these (biofuels, solar, wind) but apparently didn't like the smell yet. I even believe that some of these giants will eventually drive these energy sources (again....!), simply because of all the arguments listed above: political, financial and demographical influences.
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5 of 14
February 9, 2012
Ideological combative language may work in academic circles or at cocktail parties but the "push" of political pressure, consumer trends, and energy contracts being awarded to entrepreneurial renewable energy companies and the "pull" of a declining supply, political unrest in areas of the world with oil, and the risk of accidents are the means of moving large energy companies to invest more and more money into renewable energy. I met with a large oil related corporation just yesterday to begin re-powering their platforms with green energy. Those gentlemen ARE not idiots. They are asking their engineers to evaluate our renewable technology. If they implement our technology it will be because we reduce their cost of operations by 40%. The side effect of eliminating 250 tons of carbon a year is a SECONDARY BENEFIT!
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6 of 14
Anonymous
February 9, 2012
#6, You mean you met one of those corporations the SC deems same as people? You actually met him/her? And obviously he/she impressed you. One Q..... How can an idiot determine one of it's own kind.
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7 of 14
February 10, 2012
The oil companies need to understand they will make MORE money by putting that oil into the higher value/margin areas (plastics, chemicals etc) than in burning it. Its time for them to realise OIL is to valuable to burn, once they do then they will make MORE long term money for their shareholders and reduce the carbon threat we are faced with.
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8 of 14
February 10, 2012
Does California use Brazil sugar ethanol at a price of $0.16 per gal ($8billion per year) more than GMO corn fuel ethanol?

Does the United States ship GMO corn fuel ethanol to Brazil for car fuel?

Can California ask for a waiver of ethanol mandate and save money, carbon-footprint and food price?

Stop using food in my gas, ethanol stinks and it might affect the beef.
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9 of 14
February 10, 2012
The underlying issue of climate change needs to be looked at realistically - with study of solar radiation management geoengineering to offset the increase in atmospheric CO2 while we continue to develop non CO2 emitting sources of energy.
I see lack of discussion of geoengineering as a moral issue; for if climate change will increase the frequency of "natural" disasters and we have an approach to counter these effects and don't study them are we as a society not morally to blame for the deaths and destruction caused by climate change? And so I call for solar radiation management geoengineering study!!

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Anonymous
February 10, 2012
Nero fiddled while Rome burned.

Sadly, I would not be surprised if in about 5 years it is announced the climate tipping point is passed and the rest of the oil/coal/gas may as well be burnt.

If what science says about climate change is true and occurs then notions like pensions, tax, banks, etc will mean very little.

Maybe dinosaur will still have the same meaning.

There are lots of good reasons to stop burning oil/gas/coal, but there is no real will in the oil companies to stop the current gravy train, why would there be. Western societies would not be as productive without the car. The metrics of GDP/GNP rule. Most Governments/Countries are too small to upset the apple cart, just look at the annual cash flow of these companies compared to most countries.

It is not that they are too big to fail; it is that society is not willing to make the effort to change. I, like most people, make choices that benefit me within the constraints of society. Why would I do otherwise? I often don't think they are actions that are good, sensible, long-term view choices.
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11 of 14
February 10, 2012
Ethanol is here to stay. NASCAR needs it, to avoid killing off drivers with black smoke, among other reasons.

Even if subsidies for plastic corn go away, there are other things to make eth out of.
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Anonymous
February 13, 2012
This is an excellent article in an area (biofuels) that Renewable Energy World does little coverage. Some of the comments here, although good, indicate they are not up to date as to what is happening with SOME big oil in the alternative fuel area. Of the big six, the foreign based BP, Shell and Total have made significant commitments in Brazil and elsewhere. US based Exxon probably spends more on advertisement about their 'green image' than they spend on actually doing anything. Chevron and Phillips/Conoco are similar to Exxon. This should tell us something. The ethanol molecule is winning favor around the world, while it is inappropriately vilified in the US. It seems that so called 'drop-in fuels' receive more support in the US which, if implemented, will lock us into the thermal inefficiencies of the petroleum molecule. The issue of 'stranded assets' is one to watch in the near/medium future. Big oil is shedding some refineries and refining in the US is now primarily independent. Sunoco has sold all refineries and Valero has sold some while making substantial investments in ethanol and other biofuels. The ability to keep refineries operating may be highly influenced by favoring the production of bio-crude over ethanol. Bio- isobutanol can presently undercut petroleum butanol and conversion of ethanol plants to bio-butanol is gearing up for rapid conversion. While butanol is useful as an additive to a gasoline/ethanol blend, its use strictly as a fuel is doubtful. The higher value chemical industry is more at risk to bio-industrial competition that the fuel market. Bio-butanol is on the leading edge of this competition with other chemicals close behind. I hope Renewable Energy World can have increased coverage of these issues.
B. Brandon
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13 of 14
February 21, 2012
Companies are created to make money for their investors. This is fundamentally a political problem whcih the politicians are NOT solving!! In the US you still have a major political party which is at war with science. 40% of the US population still believes in creationism. If you don't have a populace that doesn't accept the basic tenant of biology why would they believe in the science behind climatology? I have also noticed that were the numbers are easily measured (ppm CO2) they have changed their story to "it isn't happening" to "man is not causing this". If you are planning on politics to solve the problem, you are in for a long wait. Technology and economics will either have to solve it or we will live in a planet that is tougher to live on. The cost of a typical solar panel is about ½ of what it was 2 years ago and the price is still dropping. Technological improvements continue to be made. Some technologies such as CPV (www.amonix.com) and the Rainbow Concentrator (www.sol-solution.net) will increase the efficiency and price point. I believe that for electrical generation we are probably 5 years away from an inflection point where solar is cheaper than coal for base load generation. At that point the majority of new power plants will be solar (already more power plants are solar to address peak load issues). BP and other companies have plenty of resources and can afford to wait two or three years to see who the eventual winners are then buy them up. At that point you will see a big change in the tone. In the mean time you will probably see little movement by the big energy companies and will make it appear that fossil fuels will always be the dominant energy (Sales 101 you sell what you have). For transportation, unless battery technology improves significantly, then oil will continue to be the dominant fuel.
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14 of 14
February 21, 2012
If you mean that the price of coal and oil will be driven up by intent to such a high price while the price of renewable technology comes down the future looks quite promising. We live in a country where poor people on fixed incomes will die this winter because of a lack of heating oil to heat their homes. Since you believe in natural selection this will be of NO CONCERN TO YOU. As long as it is not your parent you will shed no tears. I appreciate your "scientific discussion" but still believe in the definition of a "Law" or a "Fact" as defined here: "An independently and sufficiently verified description of a direct link between cause and effect of a phenomenon, deduced from experiments and/or observations. Scientific laws are considered established and universally applicable (to certain class of things or phenomenon under appropriate conditions) but not necessarily definitive. Also called laws of science."

http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/scientific-law.html#ixzz1n3BtbtPo

"A thing that is indisputably the case." is a fact.

IF you have dispute; meaningful dissent that can be supported by valid syllogisms then you can say whatever you want but I say, "IT is NOT a Fact!"

BP will own the renewables industry companies that make the most money. They are NOT oil companies any more. They are energy companies. As solar prices go down they will buy companies. The same with wind and hopefully Genergy...www.genergyllc.com ... we sell renewable power for energy companies.
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