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1 of 11
December 15, 2011
Corporations want the extension of 1603 because it is for.... ummm....them.
Too bad their couldn't be some juicy incentive for the common people to go solar. Oh, yah,....... they don't own the government.
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Anonymous
December 16, 2011
Paid for biased research for mandated grid power plants and residential rent solar market.

I think it is great for peole to use unpredictable alterntive energy.
Me I am waiting for more precitable alenrtive energy waiting to come line upon completion on going research for alternative energy sources.

In the mean time I will continue to use clean predictable natural gas.

THE ABOVE IS MY OPINION AND MY OPINION ONLY A RIGHT GIVEN TO ME BY GOD
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December 16, 2011
I have to agree with Phil-, if the power companies, other then Cal. had to buy the power back at the same rates we do then it would be a lot more popular to install Solar.
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December 16, 2011
Yeah anonymous .. keep the rant going.

'Alternative' energy is 'unpredictable'. Why don't be call the smokers 'alternative' instead - use of this adjective is only a tell for a biased opinion. 'Unpredictable' as in: I don't know if the sun will rise again, wind will blow or rain will fall? These factors make solar, wind and hydro power variable, not unpredictable. By unpredictable we mean that the amount of power produced in a given hour differs significantly, by 20% for example, from the average expectation (i.e. prediction). We can in fact predict the weather to fair precision: it's mostly the fine detail that has large uncertainty. If we're talking about a case where system operators ignore time of day, time of year and current weather forecast (the case of the zombie power system operators), then we can make a case for 'unpredicatability'. Otherwise not. Remember that the great blackout was triggered by coal fired generators that were 'unpredictably' off-line.

The other adjective we frequently see is 'unreliable'. In technical terms, this means unavailable during productive time. This is a complete misnomer as renewable generators have the best stats in terms of operational availability versus resource availability. By far the worst in this category is nuclear power followed by coal where unscheduled downtime runs to big numbers. One might also want to look at the availabilty stats for natural gas, particularly in areas with transmission system congestion where gas supply blackouts are common.

Finally, there's 'clean' natural gas. A substantial portion of natural gas is produced as sour gas and a substantial portion of that is sweetened by flaming off the toxic content. If nothing else, the impact of the resulting acid rain on ecosystems is anything but clean. The result of burning NG is CO2 and water ... mostly - but dirtier than motor vehicle exhaust. Whether CO2 is dirty or clean is another debate.
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December 16, 2011
I am an Austin Energy customer planning on a solar install next quarter. Stay tuned. I'll update on the substantial rebates as I get them on this comment. They have been provided in estimates. No contract is signed yet.

Where do you live phil?
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December 16, 2011
S. Hoffman, I feel it is advantageous to incentivise solar energy more than just net metering. To realize the balance of hidden and non-hidden unrealized costs, an incentive for power production is in order, such as SREC trading for carbon costs with a solar carve-out. In this way, those that can install solar are incentivised thru energy production, not gold plated (price increased), certified equipment standards, which mainly raise prices for equipment. In the eastern states that have used SREC trading, the solar adoption has been steadily and profitably amassing with the costs of money covered, and to anyone with the craft to 'git-er-done', and at no cost to tax payers.

I am in WI, 44 degrees N lat. Doing PV and thermal successfully, and without any govt assistance other than tax relief on income, property assesment and sales.

I am wondering when a class action suit will be in order against all the polluting industries that are steadily and increasingly obscuring our common solar availability and water quality. When I bought all the consumer goods that todays commerce proffers, I don't recall agreeing to let these industries poison me and the world for the privilege. Adapt or die, that is evolutions law. Burn-tec was and is a temporary interim measure.
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December 16, 2011
I find it a little disturbing that so much emphasis is being placed on China. Cheaper isn't always better, and it's known that China dumps ALL of its products on the World market, not just the US.

Shouldn't the discussion be turned to other country alternatives? Canada and Germany both make fantastic panels that last as long, if not longer, as the Chinese product and with the same electrical generation. US-made panels are more expensive but if you want "Made in the USA", you just have to suck up the cost.

The US is also re-starting its rare earth mining enterprises and has healthy relationships with friendly countries like Australia. We'd have more if we didn't spend the last half-century pissing off the rest of the world, but, well, there ya go.

China is the bull in the China shop, if you pardon the pun, but they don't have to be the only cow in the field. Sorry for all the farming metaphors, but it's Friday and I'm tired.
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Anonymous
December 16, 2011
To GeraldR and others when I mentioned unpredictable I was not talking about sun and wind there existing charts published that all engineers use for energy production potential

Unpredictable/predictable; efficient;reliable; take your pick man has not built a perfect machine yet because man is imperfect.

Renewable equipment is a commercial term only; today we are using the same equipment for energy production we have used over the years that have been improved/technology upgrades.

One bank of solar panels or one turbine blade do not make a complete energy system.

NG plants over the years have installed scrubbers/filters thanks to OSHA requirements. The steam you see is mostly water vapor with 10%-50% pollutants depending on the generation of equipment they are using.

Contrary to what you have been told all oil; gas; chemical and waster water plants are constantly going through normal business cycle technology upgrades the same as NG.

Coal has its own set of technology that I am not familiar with.

Yes I have made a living over the years as inside sales selling new upgrade equipment thanks to OSHA

Solar energy requires heat from radiation to start to chemical reactions in an enclosed space surrounded by low level ozone call smog. Yes thin film is made from a chemical process and all chemicals have hazardous point after some many cycles which based on numerous variables.

Wind turbines energy requires a circular/rotating motion of steel/gearing (from chemicals) along with rare earth metals in an enclosed space above the ground and maintenance follows OSHA guidelines for exposure.

CARBON BY PRODUCTS ARE IUSED IN SOLAR AND WIND ENERGY

Earth is one large sink with mini heat sinks talk to any HVAC engineer to confirm
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fsc
December 17, 2011
A carbon tax would be fairer than incentives, as long as we also get a reduction of income tax. We all dislike taxes, so this should not be an additional tax, but compensated with an across the board reduction of income tax. The reduction should be by the same AMOUNT per tax payer, as opposed to the same PORCENTAGE. This will make it a democratic tax cut and not another tax break for the rich.
The tax system specifies who will pay for the government to run. That includes its services, its bureocracy and even government waste. There is a lot to be said and done about how the government spends owr money, but that is another post. For now let's agree that that we need to pay taxes somehow. Government uses a combination of taxes attempting to get the mix right. There are two main taxes, and I am proposing a third. Government can tax productivity using income tax. It can tax consumption using sales tax; and it could tax pollution through a carbon tax. Government should reduce the tax on productivity and substitute it for a tax on pollution.
Why should my tax dollars go to pay for my boss's super electric rooftop so he can run his air conditioner 24/7, when at night I just open the windows? Who pays me? The income tax reduction would pay the energy frugal more than they are charged by the carbon tax.
As carbon intensity drops, at some point we will need mandates to drop down further. I believe that at this point, mandates are nice but the carbon tax would be the best tool. And it would cost very little. Instead of taxing this, we tax that. No additional tax.
Wouldn´t it be really cool if you had a tax that you could reduce by doing the right thing?
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December 17, 2011
The world is going more with SOLAR, Wind and Geothermal Powered Energy. Speaking of
Geothermal Curt Lubben is just one of many sales representatives that has sold over a
million dollars of Renewable Energy in less then 365 days in the year 2011. The day of the
need for Dirty Oil and dangerous Nuclear Power are coming to a end fast. The Freedom Element
Living with Hydrogen That Dr. Addison Bain has showed the world will free most all of the
need for the Power Grid and Oil CEO's.

Very soon most of the world will not need Oil. Renewable Energy like Solar, Wind, Hydro and
Geothermal are now replacing dirty Energy like Oil. Solar Energy is growing World Wide at a
record pace.
Hybrid Cars are being sold all over the Earth. Soon Hybrid Vehicles that run on Electric /
Hydrogen, The Freedom Element. Will free the world from Oil. Thanks to a Great Scientist
Dr. Addison Bain's Years of work for our Nation and with the Space Program on Hydrogen.

The day will come when many will see Solar Panels on most everything. What Free Electric
the sun makes will be used to split water into Hydrogen. The Hydrogen will be used to heat
our homes and to cook on and put into are Hybrid Vehicles that will run on
(The Freedom Element). Very soon most all will be filling up their Vehicles at Home.
Free from the Sun's Solar Energy. Just as Dr.Addison Bain has done for years the fist Hydrogen
home refueling Station in the World. That Dr. Addison Bain built by his self.


GOD Bless you for reading this.
May our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ
Light up your world and warm your Heart this Christmas.

The Lord's little Helper
Paul Felix Schott
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Anonymous
December 20, 2011
I own a small farm and was able to take advantage of the 1603 program to install 10kw of PV in 2009. I didn't have enough tax liability to take advantage of a tax refund, so this program made the difference. I know of a small antique business 20 miles away that also got money from this program for a PV project. We both show off the equipment to anyone interested. This is helping people understand how solar PV works, we tell them about how we interact with our power company as far as billing goes, etc. I think it is a very wise investment to jump start something extremely important. I am also very appreciative of the opportunity.
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