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India's Tata Power to Divorce BP Solar

By Ucilia Wang, Contributor
December 27, 2011   |   18 Comments

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1 of 18
December 28, 2011
22 GW sounds a lot but based on the fact that India's insolation is around double that of the UK (UK approx 1000KWh/y/KWp) this only represents about 5GW of average power generation, or about 12% of the UK's average power generation for a country with more than ten times the population of the UK.
India are going to have to do a lot better than this if they are to play a meaningfull role in GHG emissions reduction.
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2 of 18
December 28, 2011
Indian political and business leaders have only recently woken up to the benefits solar energy for a sunny tropical country like India. India has enormous capital and vibrant business community. If Feed in Tariff is implemented nationally, it would give enormous boost to the solar industry in India. This would alleviate severe power shortages and benefit the environment.
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3 of 18
December 28, 2011
Sounds like the industry is growing up and we're in a "growing pains" stage. This could be very good for the industry, if we can get China to properly evaluate its currency.

It'll take a few years for this to blow over and then the next stage of "growing pains" will be the expansion of companies offering complete systems for installers.
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4 of 18
December 28, 2011
As a solar installer here in Florida, I am pleased that BP's assumptive arrogance is being curtailed, even if it is just in their solar interests. Their oil interests did us no favors here on the Gulf and they have hurt many low-income Americans repeatedly as to "reparations" for that big blow-out. As someone that is in association with a native born east Indian (now U.S. citizen)I am also very happy for India and wish them the very best in their efforts to reach for environmental responsibility. The problem being cut-throat is that sometimes it is one's own throat that ends up on the block. BP solar made it's own bed and now they are not only sleeping in it, it is their deathbed as well.
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5 of 18
December 29, 2011
you are looking at China's currency valuation wrong douglas-prince the USA dollar is grossly over valued , so USA's ability to purchase the import panels should be in fact hugely more expensive the saving grace for the USA is that your country currency is the default trade currency if it was not for this fact your currency would be like Zimbabwe why do you think all major players in business are unhappy of the US currency being the major trading currency and many would love to surely love to get out. you guys are spoilt rotten but cannot see it. when a new world trade currency happerns watch yours drop like a stone
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6 of 18
December 29, 2011
BP made good panels from an efficiency and aesthetic point of view. Lead generation with Home Depot was a strategic plus. The author's last paragragh says it all, however. Most solar vendors ride the tides. If creative marketing strategy ever comes to the solar business, many of the casualties, past and future, could have been or could be avoided. India will serve it own large market well by restricting competition but compared to Chinese businesses, they are 2nd rate and will doubtfully make it outside of India.
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Anonymous
December 29, 2011
BP is a second rate company--just ask anyone in the O&G industry--OFF the record of course.
btw--from 2005-6 BP made the "worst" PV products. Power tolerance of +/- 10Wp with about 90% of the modules flash testing lower that the nameplate rating.
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8 of 18
December 29, 2011
Anonymous - post 5
Would be nice to have a name to reply to but:

I would be the first to admit that the UK's RE (renewable energy) record is fairly pitiful but unfortunately I don't have personal control of our Gov's RE strategy, in fact I have just been shafted by them with their back-pedalling on the feed in tariff for PV. Having said this the UK is not the ideal country to benefit from PV, solar thermal would make much more sense, which I assume is why the Gov. has introduced the RHI (renewable heat incentive) effectively FITs for sustainable heating.
Any way if you look at the report you might notice that the 22GW is for 2022, i.e. 10 years time, and my guess is that India will be catching the UK up by then in the energy per capita stakes.
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9 of 18
December 29, 2011
Americandoo
Dream Bigger..Do Bigger
I'm thinking even bigger, my vision (concept) is for an energy infrastructure that could give the whole world access to ample, clean, sustainable and affordable energy resources, including the US.
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10 of 18
December 29, 2011
Americandoo-
Google Babcock Ranch in Florida. Whether it is a pipe dream or real only time will tell. It's along the lines of your own dream. I hope it comes into being.
Nick-Cook- 83087-
Hi Nick-
I'm here in Gainesville, Fl. and we have the first Solar FIT in the U.S. initiated three years ago and it's working so far (based on the European model). I'm curious about the thermal FIT you mentioned. Is that for both household hot water and space heating as well and how can I get details on such. I'd like to lobby for a thermal FIT here (I was involved with helping to initiate the P.V. FIT). I'm also working with a company locally to design a low cost meter that the local energy provider can use to facilitate a thermal FIT. Any info on such a meter to be used there or the policy and organization there of would be helpful. Also, don't give up hope in the U.K. on a P.V. FIT. Such can be frustrating and have a few bumps in the road but the reward can be quite satisfying.
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11 of 18
December 30, 2011
As a solar PV designer and installer, I've spec'ed panels from Kyocera, SANYO (my favorite) Canadian Solar, Suntech, Trino, and others. The ONLY PV panels to fail in 18 installations in Lincoln County, NM were MINE--8 in four years!! The junction boxes on these panels were really poor!! They were designed to fail; wires were 'free swinging' and the j-boxes were very weak. BP had a reason to fail in solar PV. Hopefully,the remaining manufacturers will learn from their mistakes!! Go with CS, the best cost/watt and good customer service.
P.S. Don't ever buy a Fronius inverter--I could tell you war stories forever!!
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12 of 18
December 31, 2011
canadian solar is made in China??
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13 of 18
December 31, 2011
Repair and ship all such panels to India.I am sure you will get them cheap say at 10% of the prices.We will sell them at 30% of the prices of the new. SEnd them in pieces so that customs duty is low.. We will assemble them and sell in the villages at cheap rates. In any case technology is changing fast. It is better than not having any electricity. Also take down all solar panels installed with a residual life of 10 years you will get them cheap and while you modernize your installation Remember what it will do to any party vote in elections in India. This will be a case of one great country helping other great country . So there is big business even in failures!
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14 of 18
December 31, 2011
Americandoo

UK thermal FIT is called the Renewable Heat incentive [RHI] and includes ST panels, biomass c/h boilers, heat pumps and others.
For lots more info start here: www-dot-decc.gov.uk-dot-en-dot-content-dot-cms-dot-meeting_energy-dot-renewable_ener-dot-incentive-dot-incentive-dot-aspx [replace -dot- with .]

Regarding European FIT model there is more than one, Spain paid for it out of taxes which ran into big problems when the economy collapsed and tax revenues shrank. The UK model uses a levy on electricity bills to pay for it so should be safe in the long term. The problem arose when the Gov decided cut the tariff by more than 50% [43p > 21p/KWh] for new installations with only six weeks notice, just as I was about to get my installers accreditation.
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15 of 18
January 2, 2012
Nick- I'm Scott BTW. Thanks for the heads up, I'm researching such now. Gainesville, Fla. used the German model for it's FIT (with a few adjustments here and there of course). There have also been growing pains but it's initial benchmarks have been exceeded as to the growth of solar in our community. Per capita, we have had greater growth in P.V. installations than the state of California and the country of Japan. Not bad for a little college town (small city). I'm sure a viable FIT would do the same for the U.K. if they gave it a fair shake. That stinks that they yanked the financial footing out from underneath it on such short notice, especially since you had put in all the learning and probably monies to be in that position for the original criteria in the first place. Still doable I suspect but barely and a hell of a lot more work to keep a profit margin within the new parameters. We have to put food on the table too! Perhaps a coalition of local solar installers would work if personal greed can be kept at bay. When our economies turn around again, I think the powers that be will make more of an effort. However, I must say that our solar growth has not missed a beat and our FIT was initiated just before the economic downturn hit everyone hard. I hope it works out for you Nick and thanks for the info.
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16 of 18
January 3, 2012
BP has a division of analysts and they have been indicating they were getting out of solar for months as they have been noted as checking out next gen battery tech. As we have seen Bp will move in and out of techs depending on the profitability and that is exactly where they are headed.
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Anonymous
January 3, 2012
Americandoo -

"Similar to this idea; In past history when the USA needed a Moral Boost to our
Country we built such things as; The Largest Bridges, Dams, Statue Of Liberty,
Worlds Largest Futuristic Fair, Landed on the Moon etc."

Sorry, the Statue of Liberty was a gift from France, maybe there is a lesson here in boosting morale through the giving and receiving of gifts and generosity rather than greed and accumulation. Imagine what America would be like if they had not been given that statue!

"remembers what she stands for - Friendship, Freedom and Peace between our two countries, and symbols for the rest of the world!" http://www.french-at-a-touch.com/Statue_of_Liberty/statue_of_liberty.htm
RG
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18 of 18
January 3, 2012
Don't forget that BP's core business is the continuated discovery extraction and use of the fossil fuels. The nod towards solar and other renewable energy was a calculated move to meet with certain targets and objectives and appear to be a green giant with the governments that were facing growing environmental concerns.

I can't imagine Tata would be buying the BP stake if it didn't see a profit at some point along the line. BP have consistently put more resources into the vastly more unviable and sustainable tar sands/shale gas and methane hydrates projects than they ever have put into the development of solar.

BP's solar house of cards is falling apart due to some further smoke-and-mirror paper waving saying that there is no viable business case to continue. And the world will be duped into thinking that they are right.
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