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GOP Strategy on Renewables: Don't Ask, Don't Tell

In Their Stated Energy Plans, Presidential Hopefuls Offer Little Room for Clean Technologies

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1 of 15
December 6, 2011
I can understand now why every time the republicans hold a debate, President Obama's ratings skyrocket. If any of those idiots get in that office, America is surely doomed and will be plunged into a heavily polluted third-world.
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2 of 15
December 6, 2011
If you want to clear out any fog or lack of vision about what the Republican party is and has been for far too long just pick up a copy of Naomi Klein's SHOCK DOCTRINE.

Milton Friedman,Ronald Reagan and even Ayn Rand were instrumental in cooking up the current disastrous economic paradigm.

Think the bubble build up and ultimate collapse of the housing market 'just happened'? Destroying the public sector is something that is 'just happening' for no reason?

It's all in the plan

Check out Milton Friedman and 'The Chicago Boys'

Just like someone could have predicted WW11 by reading Hitler's Mein Kaumpf, you can easily predict the collapse of our economic system and the all out war being planned on Renewable Energy going on behind the scenes by reading most anything Milton 'the traitor' Friedman wrote.
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3 of 15
December 6, 2011
So what would "Paul" advocate? That we sue polluting industries "En mass" for destroying the air and water and soil? A huge class action suit?
The lawers would love to choke on that. But really, isn't that what the EPA is for? If pollution effects everyone, and polluters are breaking the laws, it becomes the governments responsibliity to step in, right??? It seems to me his utopian messages would get as much support as Obama's has.
The GOP, (and the Dems) fear a simple ONE% per year solar carve out on a National RE Plan that would cost the Govt nothing, Nada, Zip! We can see from this where their true alliances lie! We have a government on the take, bought and paid for by huge, tax favored entities, and a bullied and ignorant votership.
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4 of 15
fsc
December 7, 2011
Who is the property owner of the air we breathe?
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5 of 15
December 7, 2011
Sorry to say that the presidential elections are based mainly on Hollywood. The biggest, tallest, best looking, and best personality will probably be elected. Do any of them have engineering degrees or the technical education to determine energy directions? Obama will probaly not make it because he is, well, not good looking.
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6 of 15
December 7, 2011
As an industry-insider, I would be willing to try Ron Paul's approach because the gov't has miserably failed at everything it has tried to do in recent years. If nothing else it would be a huge 'reset' action that might allow a more appropriate future legislation process and mindset.
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7 of 15
December 7, 2011
'I would be willing to try Ron Paul's approach because the gov't has miserably failed at everything it has tried to do in recent years.'


Listen to the constant condemnation of our government by the GOP and Tea Baggers

Reagan claimed the government was the source of all evil

The hatred of government is a constant refrain coming from Republicans.

Now ask a simple question before voting for Paul.

If you hate government and you are an elected representative for that same government,does it stand to reason that you would do everything you can to fully illustrate just how ineffective and evil that same government is?

Now ask yourself if it is the fault of the voter who votes in these government hating clowns ,who then prove government can't work or is any form of government just plain terrible?

If you keep voting in those who want government to fail don't be surprised when it fails on a regular basis.
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8 of 15
December 8, 2011
Question:
Who should I be frustrated with when the regulations for installing a 3.7 KW wind turbine to run my home are 35ft. max. But I can install a Windmill to any height I want (no height limits). Its certainly not the evil corporations that keep me from doing this. In fact the employees of the evil corporation I'm sure would prefer me to purchase one. WTF over!
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9 of 15
December 8, 2011
Baby crying and it smells. Diaper is dirty.

Do you take the time and effort to change the diaper and clean up the baby or do you simply yell and scream and say "I hate that baby" and give up?

Would it help if you wore a funny colonial era hat with tea bags hanging off it?

Rational people just clean up the mess and move on realizing that the value of the baby far exceeds the inconvenience of having one.

Irrational people get all caught up in the yelling and smelling and calling for the baby to just go away and leave you alone.

Now which scenario seems to make more sense?

Historically when the average person had little or no real government they were totally free. Totally free to obey their king and fear their Knights.It was called feudalism and the average person lived like a drowned rat.

I would rather challenge a representative of MY government with all the 'mess and smells' that involves than pledge my loyalty to the Nation of Walmart.
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10 of 15
December 8, 2011
So now we have Feudalism and the Kings are corporate presidents and the Knights are the corporations itself.
Then would you say they are the ones with the regulations to stop my plans for using wind power. Or are they threatening I have to use solar. Oh! I understand now, its because that evil Walmart only sells solar panels. Hummm Yeah! Thats it..
Thanks for the help in understand these things.
Sooo tell me about the guy in Hayward California at the OWS who murdered another OWS'er... All bet he was fired from Walmart and it was justified because of the mind control they have over you when you work there.
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11 of 15
December 8, 2011
Maybe Arnold is wearing that big overcoat because of global cooling.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/12/07/in-china-there-are-no-hockey-sticks/
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12 of 15
December 8, 2011
Larry-

Taking the country's balance sheet into debt levels equaling a large fraction of GDP is miserable failure. I guess your keynsian economics background disagrees but in real history it has proved failure many times over. I am not complaining about it, just offering that one of our long-time political leaders might not be that far off base. Could someone fix it without such harsh/radical views? Perhaps, but it probably will take some major triggering event. I hope to not get caught up in that one.
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Anonymous
December 9, 2011
The debt levels, and subsequent finance margin, were the hold on the economy the banks designed for, right?
Free money for the wealthy, supported by the belief that others could never be so cunning and evil, and beyond the laws most people are expected to obey.
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14 of 15
December 9, 2011
@Jamie
I have no clue as to what if any message you were wishing to convey in what you wrote but I'll at least respond to some of your declared assumptions.

'I guess your keynsian economics background disagrees'

Where in any of what I wrote could you extract such an assumption? Keynsian?? Because I agree with our countries founders that after we overthrew the King we needed a government? A government that in order to function properly requires at least minimally informed voters?

'I am not complaining about it, just offering that one of our long-time political leaders might not be that far off base.'

What relevance to much of anything does this sentence have? WOW!

AS FOR THIS SENTENCE?

'Taking the country's balance sheet into debt levels equaling a large fraction of GDP is miserable failure'

I agree. If you wished to literally destroy the foundations of any country first drive up the debt to levels unheard of in history.

Now the $64,000 question. Who drove up the debt and for what purpose. The factual answer is (as opposed to what comes from Fox or rabid conservatives) it really started with Ronald Reagan who tripled the debt from 900 billion to 3 trillion.Next was Bush who added another trillion. Then with the non government hating Clinton we had a balanced budget. Then the worlds largest criminal family known as the Bush Crime Family drove it up another 4 trillion.Obama as part of the criminal cabal is now finishing the job of sinking the ship of state.

As to why the debt is being driven up to the stratosphere?
All I can say is read The Shock Doctrine for answers.
BTW 'the shock' that kills countries was the brainchild of Milton the traitor Friedman. A mentally sick devotee of another mental case Ayn Rand and adviser to Reagan and Thatcher and other sociopaths.

As Jefferson (government leader) said. 'A Democracy can only survive with well informed voters.'

To Jamie I say 'don't burn books.Read them'.
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15 of 15
December 9, 2011
BTW the government has declared burning Books and Kindle's as a #1 polluting source. Far and away worse than the Carbon recycling benefit.
How much does a Carbon Footprint weigh ? Love that joke!
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