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The Microeconomics of Green Jobs

By Tom Konrad, Contributor
October 10, 2011   |   5 Comments

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Anonymous
October 11, 2011
A well written editorial, but conveniently omitting some very pertinent facts:

1."The very existence of opportunities to save significantly on energy bills at modest cost is proof that the energy market is inefficient." On the contrary, it proves that the energy market is so highly efficient that it is able to deliver energy at a cost that makes the use of capital to improve efficiency ineffective. Like installing extra installation that has a payback that exceeds the expected economic life of the building.

2."When we extract these resources and use them, we increase economic activity today, but their non-renewable nature means that we lose the opportunity to extract and use them tomorrow." How else do you create wealth than by takng natural resources and applying labor and capital to them? Non-renewable? Maybe so, but how do you get the copper to make a wind turbine generator without extractive mining?

3. "job creation, the focus on policy should be on creating jobs and economic activity, with a preference for green jobs, since those impose less of a cost on future economic activity than jobs based on extractive industries." Goody, let's stimulate jobs in, say, solar PV. We do extractive work on resources, do labor (in China, probably) to build solar panels that take very little labor to get installed, then they (in theory) operate for 20+ years without further labor input. All so you can shut down coal mining jobs, transport jobs, and power plant staff, eliminating those jobs, and winding up with energy that is intermittently available, as opposed to on demand.

4. Lastly, what form of energy is conceivably "greener" than nuclear? That's the "dirty little secret" - for "renewable energy" to be economically viable, we must, through fear-mongering and deceit, engage the political system to restrain the adoption of safe, reliable nuclear energy.
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October 13, 2011
@Anonymous. Best you remain as such. Your comments are at best snarky and snide and at worst sadly misinformed. First of all your third point.

You view the installation of PV panels in a vacuum. Over seventy percent of our economy is consumption based. If I install solar PV my initial purchase creates jobs in production and installation. Once the initial cost is amortized I have allot of extra money each month to purchase things.In essence my disposable income goes up and each dollar I spend has a multiplier effect. Any fossil based energy I don't purchase has a direct benefit far in excess of the energy I did not purchase since the downsides to the economy of using fossil fuels far exceeds any downside of a loss of a few jobs.

Now as to your comment about nuclear power. Just what is it going to take to get people like you out from under the rocks and see the light. There is no more costly energy source than nuclear power and it is nothing more than a massive welfare system as the plants cannot and never will be able to be built with private capital and make a profit. Just remember that so far there is no 'safe' nuclear plant design in spite of all the hype about some new designs. A nuclear power plant is simply a controlled melt down for its entire life span. Get informed in regard to EMP (see NASA or check on solar flares)

Nuclear power is a curse. I'm certain the people of Chernobyl or Fukushima would concur. But it has been a curse since the first light water reactor since it lured folks like you into thinking it had some redeeming value.That it lulled us all into thinking it was a 'solution' to our energy needs and thus having us all avoid seeking a real solution. Even though the nuclear industry has done a great job in keeping Fukushima off the main stream media radar screens those who follow the aftemath know our hatred of this 'plague like' energy source is warranted and it must now have a stake driven in it and buried.
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October 13, 2011
I thought I might supply the trogs with a few good counterarguments:
- if you replace brown jobs with green jobs, there will be a substantial reduction of demand for medical services, inhalers, oxygen equipment, etc.
- brown energy generates many jobs in supporting fields such as environmental clean up and site remediation. For example, it's clear that a single oil well can generate up to $16B in economic activity.
- if you shift costs from capital to labor, there will be less demand for bankers
- if conservation technologies have a reasonable ROI, then consumers will end up paying less in total which will transfer jobs from energy to manufacturing where the US is unable to compete.
- if you reduce energy demand by means of conservation and/or private generation, the selling price for energy will go down according to the law of supply and demand which will benefit consumers but inconvenience producers.
- how else do you create wealth other than maximizing revenues and margins for energy company owners - reducing energy cost to consumer will reduce the wealth of the wealthy which is the source of all prosperity.
- if you suceed in leveling peak demand, money spent on smart meters will have been wasted.
- if you replace NG generation with renewables, the huge tax payer supported investment in 'natural gas is as clean as the wind' commercials will be lost.
- CO2 is plant food.

On the other hand, energy drives industry so lower energy costs make all manufacturing and transportation more competitive which increases employment.

One of the biggest knocks against brown energy is that, in spite of increasing government subsidization and increasing prices along with increased profitability, employment in this area has gone down.
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fsc
October 14, 2011
I am all for a green economy. It will save us from the destroying the planet, and from shooting ourselves in the foot. It will also save us from increased geopolitical tensions. The importance and urgency can't be overrated. That said, in the sake of truth, the green energy will not create jobs.
There are two things that a change in industry must give us to be beneficial. On one side a great new industry is one that gives us something we did not have before. The railroad and airline industries are great examples of these. These industries employ people and pass on their costs the rest of society, but in exchange they provide valuable new services that we pay happily. They enable travel and transport and have significantly contributed to our increased welfare. This is not the case with green energy. Solar, wind and hydro will give us energy, but we already have energy; and nothing beats the efficiency of pumping up sludge of dead dinosaurs, so long as you don´t mind the environment.
The food industry is a great example of the second type of beneficial shift. In 1850 half the population was farmers. Today less than two percent feed the rest of us. If half of us were farmers today we would not enjoy anywhere near our standard of living. The food industry has been fantastic not because of the jobs it has created, but because of the millions of jobs positions it has destroyed. We have food at a lower cost to society. Progress liberated millions of farmers from jobs we no longer need. Most suffered; but in the end they progressed. In 1850 food was probably the main budget item for a household. People could barely afford food. When displaced farmers found new jobs doing something else, we could now afford food and something else.
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fsc
October 14, 2011
... This is a continuation of the last post.


With a green economy we will need more people working in energy to give us something we already have! This is bad!
As with any change there are benefits and costs. Green energy FUNDAMENTAL benefits, but job creation is a cost. Allow me to list the main benefits I see:
Today the US and Europe buy huge chunks of energy from shady sources like Venezuela, Iran, Russia, Libya, etc. The Saudis with their lack of women rights and democracy are the good guys of the bunch! With a green economy we will stop financing belligerent oppressive regimes, and possibly avoid war.
We will need a smaller army, liberating resources back to society.
The resources will remain if not all on the US, at least on friendly nations that we trade with. It is far better to buy turbine gearboxes from Germany than crude from the Chavez regime in Venezuela.
We will stay healthier.
We will not have to deal with, or become, weather refugees. If you think the price tag for hurricane Katrina was bad, wait for the ice caps to melt.
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