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Energy Storage Industry Grows To Integrate Wind, Solar

Energy storage has long been touted as the silver bullet needed for widespread renewable energy adoption but costs have remained high. Today, several projects hold promise.

Robert Crowe, Contributor
August 17, 2011  |  36 Comments

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Grid-scale energy storage is gaining momentum as batteries, flywheels and compressed air systems begin proving they can regulate frequency and ancillary services with the same efficiency of "spinning reserves" from fossil fuel-fired power plants.

“We still hear people say storage isn’t ready for primetime, but that isn’t the case because we already have 20-MW storage plants being built all over the country,” said Brad Roberts, executive director of the Electricity Storage Association (ESA).

As more renewable energy hits the grid, generators and independent system operators are looking to new storage systems to provide emissions-free backup and regulation when intermittency interrupts solar and wind power.

“We are interested in the potential of battery storage to be a game changer in our industry in both regulated utilities and commercial businesses,” said Greg Efthimiou, spokesman for Duke Energy, which operates more than 1,000 MW of wind farms.

Duke Energy is installing the country’s largest battery storage system, a 36-MW unit, near its 153-MW Notrees Windpower Project. The system will regulate frequency and store excess energy for use during peak demand. In Texas, where nearly 11,000 MW of generation comes from wind farms, grid operator Electric Reliability Council of Texas relies on standby gas turbines and steam coal generators to ramp frequency up or down as wind generation changes.

The Notrees battery system is funded by a $22 million grant from the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) and matching funds from Duke Energy, which will use Austin-based Xtreme Power’s proprietary dry cell technology.

Investment, Policy Gains

ESA’s Roberts said the $158 million in stimulus earmarked by the DOE for storage research generated $780 million in investments for battery, compressed air, flywheels and other systems.

The storage industry has been calling for creation of an ITC to further stimulate growth. With passage of Assembly Bill No. 2514 in September, California began the process of developing a portfolio standard for energy storage.

Storage technology pulled in $150.3 million in venture capital during the second quarter, according to Ernst & Young. General Compression received the largest percentage, with $54.5 million. The company plans to use General Compression Advanced Energy Storage (GCAES), a unique heat transfer technology, to compress air in underground caverns. Investors include ConocoPhillips, US Renewables Group, Duke Energy and Serious Change L.P.

Compressing air underground has the potential for storage in excess of 100 MW but there are only two such projects in the world: A 290-MW facility built in Huntorf, Germany in 1978, and a 110-MW facility completed in 1991 in McIntosh, AL. And in July Iowa officials and the DOE scrapped the Iowa Stored Energy Park, a facility intended to store up to 270 MW of wind energy in a limestone cavern 3,000 feet underground. Studies showed limitations with air permeability in the site’s geology.

CAES Winners, Losers

Compressed Air Energy Storage (CAES) utilizing man-made, above-ground storage tanks has also gained traction with DOE funding. Startup SustainX, Inc. is working with AES Energy Storage to demonstrate a one-hour, 4-MW storage system. SustainX was founded in 2007 by engineers at the Thayer School of Engineering at Dartmouth College. It received $5.39 million DOE grant.

The Arizona Research Institute for Solar Energy (azRISE) at the University of Arizona has been developing a CAES solution for three years. DOE funds will enable azRISE to scale up a 10-kW proof-of-concept prototype (image, below) that will be grid-tied to a 1.6-MW solar power plant.

SOLON Corp., the solar plant’s developer, is working with azRISE and Tucson Electric Power (TEP) to demonstrate a variety of storage projects, including lithium ion batteries.

“As we see more integration of solar, we want to control storage for our utility customers,” said Bill Richardson, SOLON’s director of research and development. “The ultimate goal is to make renewable energy plants look like traditional plants with dispatchable energy.”

Joseph Simmons, azRISE director, said storage prices are high, particularly for battery systems, but he predicts a breakthrough will come with “intermediate size” compressed air systems that use off-the-shelf storage containers and have capacities of up to 100 kW. The institute’s concept, he said, can be scaled up to 1 MW with a coiled natural gas pipeline buried underground.

“I like batteries but they are very expensive,” Simmons said. “We expect to see more of a combination of batteries and compressed air storage.”

Heat transfer is another issue associated with CAES since air cools when it expands and warms during compression.

The azRISE system removes heat from a compressor then stores it in fluid. The system recovers electricity when heat returns to the compressed air before entering an expander. SustainX manages heat by uses an isothermal system to cycle air in hydraulic cylinders.

Price Points Still High

In just three years, the storage industry has grown rapidly from a handful of prototypes to revenue-generating corporations, Roberts said. Current battery technology has a long way to go before renewable energy can be stored and dispatched in meaningful amounts. Meanwhile, revenue is limited to ancillary services, critical observers say. And then there’s the price: At $43.6 million, the 36-MW Notrees system costs $1,211 per kilowatt. Others are down to $400.

“But the price is still way too high for this market,” said Donald R. Sadoway, Professor of Materials Chemistry at MIT.

The leading battery systems are based on lithium ion or sulfur-sodium (NaS) power cells. A multiple-megawatt storage system using these technologies can require thousands of cells.

Sadoway co-founded Liquid Metal Battery Corp., a startup that uses pizza box-sized power cells made with liquid metal and molten salt. Sadoway is banking on his batteries to provide game-changing, cost-effective power storage capacity.

“Storage will have to be below $200 per kilowatt if we’re going to be major players in the long-term storage firming in renewables without government subsidy,” he said.

Pumped-hydro, which accounts for 20 GW of the country’s energy storage, can provide 1,000-MW storage systems for $100 per kilowatt-hour, according to The New York Times. It requires massive reservoirs that cost more than $1 billion and take years to construct with ideal geography and abundant water resources. That pretty much rules out the arid Southwest, so researchers like Simmons and Sadoway look to alternatives. (For a primer on Energy Storage Costs, see Sidebar: Understanding Energy Storage Costs, below.)

Sadoway’s company received a $6.9 million grant from the Advanced Research Projects Agency-Energy (ARPA-E) as well as seed money from Total, an oil company, and Microsoft Co-Founder Bill Gates. Sadoway said the size of his batteries will broaden grid-scale storage capacity since more liquid will be present per cell than conventional cells.

Lithium Ion Still Popular

“We’re starting to see prices come down as we scale up each project,” said John Zahurancik, AES Energy Storage vice president.

AES Energy Storage is installing a 32-MW lithium ion storage system to regulate the 100-MW Laurel Mountain Wind Farm in West Virginia. Since it was founded in 2007, AES Energy Storage has completed more than 32 MW of storage, and it claims to have 500 MW “in the pipeline.”

“We are starting to demonstrate the real commercial competence of storage,” Zahurancik said.

Storage is attractive to generators – parent company AES Corp. operates 132 power plants worldwide – because it provides “fuel-free” power during peak hours, Zahurancik said. Large-scale battery storage is still years away, so revenue streams are limited to ancillary services, which represent a small piece of all sales on the electricity market. The ESA and American Wind Energy Association are lobbying utility regulators who oversee electricity sales to create markets that recognize a premium for emissions-free storage and regulation.

Some systems are growing outside of ancillary services. AES is installing an A123 Systems battery unit capable of providing 20 MW of spinning reserve for 15 minutes in Northern Chile.

“We’re moving out of the lab and into large production facilities,” said Chris Campbell, vice president of marketing for A123 Systems’ Energy Solutions Group.

He said A123 Systems European customers are interested in 100-MWh to 500-MWh storage systems that will help them meet clean air goals. Zahurancik said battery storage devices in the next three years will offer two to four hours of storage for that can transfer nighttime wind energy for peak use.

“We’re already seeing our market grow like the solar and wind industries,” he said.


Sidebar: Understanding Energy Storage Costs

Energy storage systems are typically quantified in terms of capacity (kilowatts or kW) and generation (kilowatt-hours or kWh), but there are some exceptions.

“In the case of energy storage costing, dollars per kilowatt-hour can be very misleading,” said Brad Roberts, executive director of the Energy Storage Association.

Battery storage is growing rapidly, but costs remain high, so the industry is striving for average prices to dip below $500 per kWh within three years.

“Technologies like lithium ion need to see huge price declines in the next few years which may be possible as electric transportation grows,” Roberts said.

The approximate cost of a 1-MW, 6-hour sodium-sulfur (NaS) battery is $3,000 per kW. That translates to a cost of $500 per kWh ($3,000/ 6 hours = $500), Roberts said.

Xtreme Power Chief Development Officer Darrell Hayslip said battery costs are expressed in dollars per kWh when considered “stored energy.” Xtreme Power often quotes prices in terms of dollars-per-kilowatt because it markets its dry cell products as a “generating or supply resource,” Hayslip said.

Xtreme Power’s 36-MW Notrees project is funded by about $22 million U.S. Department of Energy grant and $22 million in matching funds from Duke Energy, which Hayslip said brings the cost to $1,211 per kW ($43.6 million/36,000 kilowatts = $1,200).

Joseph Simmons, director of Arizona Research Institute for Solar Energy (azRISE), estimates a 10-kW compressed air storage system with a $50,000 price tag can generate 30 kilowatt-hours, or three hours of electricity at 33 cents per kilowatt-hour.

Calculations for the University of Arizona system call for use of a 1,000-gallon storage tank. He said the system could be scaled up to 10 MW using coiled pipeline to create 1 million gallons of storage space. Such a system would generate 30 MWh, but price is unknown at this point, he said.

--RC

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Jonathan Maddox
Jonathan Maddox
December 13, 2011
I would like to mention the following innovative take on thermal electric energy storage technology (I am not an investor, merely curious and excited ad developments).

http://www.isentropic.co.uk/our-phes-technology

It uses, essentially, a reversible heat pump / heat engine. Unlike hot-rock or molten salt heat storage, it does not rely on one hot reservoir and the difference between that and ambient temperature. Rather, heat is pumped out of one reservoir, making it very cold, and into another, making it very hot. The COP of the heat pump means that several times more energy is transferred than mechanical energy is supplied. Run in reverse, a large proportion of the originally supplied energy can be recovered.
Mark Kampa
Mark Kampa
August 30, 2011
Xcel Terms First Phase of Sodium-Sulfur Battery Wind Energy Storage Test Project Successful
11 August 2010
Xcel Energy has released the preliminary results from its wind-to-battery (W2B) storage project in Minnesota, and termed the technology successful. In October 2008, Xcel began testing a one-megawatt sodium-sulfur (NaS) battery (earlier post) to demonstrate its ability to store wind energy and move it to the electricity grid when needed.

We have proved that this technology can perform the functions of storage that we were looking for to help us manage the variability of wind energy on our operating system. We are greatly encouraged by these results.

—Frank Novachek, Xcel Energy director of corporate planning
The preliminary test results indicate that the battery has the ability to:

Effectively shift wind energy from off-peak to on-peak availability
Reduce the need to compensate for the variability and limited predictability of wind generation resources
Support the transmission grid system by providing voltage support, which contributes to system reliability
Support regional electricity market by responding to real-time imbalances between generation and load
Results also indicate that this technology may be applicable for solar energy.

Testing will continue to determine the technology's ability to facilitate integration of larger penetrations of wind energy on the grid. Phase II of the study will also assess the potential value of the various battery system functions and determine the potential cost effectiveness of the technology. A final report is expected in summer 2011.
Natty Bumpo
Natty Bumpo
August 29, 2011
Pumped storage and CAES, where you can find suitable sites, are much more versatile than batteries, and more economical. Consider a (target) 15 year life for batteries versus 50 years for pumped storage and CAES. Consider also 2-4 hours of storage for batteries versus 10, 20, 30 hours for pumped storage and CAES. Some issue can also be taken with the comment that pumped storage in the Southwest can be ruled out. The proposed Eldorado Pumped Storage Project south of Las Vegas would provide 400-600 MW of storage capability and would recirculate its water over and over; some innovative methods are being considered to significantly cut evaporation loss and use less precious freshwater. Further north in Nevada, the White Pine Pumped Storage project would have a head of close to 2,000 feet, allowing for very efficient use of water. And in Arizona, the Music Mountains Pumped Storage Project may tap and purify brackish water for its fill source. Over in Southern California are some new pumped storage proposals, including Bison Peak (very close to the wind & solar in Tehachapi) that would have a head of 2,100 to 3,000 feet (super-efficient use of limited water).
Drew Devitt
Drew Devitt
August 25, 2011
Hello all,
I remind readers that an article did publish in REW on frequency regulation, renewable energy sources and energy storage just last year;


http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/article/2010/03/making-a-case-for-flywheel-energy-storage
John Giannasca
John Giannasca
August 21, 2011
Arov you are right in saying that the turn around efficiency for energy storage is a key factor in deciding what storage is to be used, but it is not the only driver. Grid support storage need a few different types of storage to assist. It neets high energy short duration storage (like flywhells or ultra capacitors) for power quality issues. Its needs shorter duration but high power (Flow Batteries, NaS etc) to support variability and high energy capacity systems (like pumped hydro and compresed air) to support load leveling and transmission constraints. In all of these technologies the better turn arround efficiency technologies will win as long as the capital cost are the same. A great reference is the EPRI-DOE Handbook of Energy Storage available at http://www.sandia.gov/ess/publications/ESHB%201001834%20reduced%20size.pdf
Anatoly Arov
Anatoly Arov
August 21, 2011
There universal standard for cars MPG or mile per gallon. It gives clear target in distance with gallon price as economic factor. Can somebody offer clear economic for energy storage?
You spend 100% energy pumped storage or air compression and get max. 60% for possible energy retrieval. When you retrieve energy you lose at least 40% of avilable 60% by kinetic devices rotating generator into GRID or using only 36% of 100% original energy. Producer wind or solar paid for 100% and 64% paid went in smoke, and this is premium paid. Where the economic criteria? And possibly 64% for conversion are comming from cole source. Maybe I am wrong with math? Discuss better this and not spelling mistakes. Cheers.
Matthew Wright
Matthew Wright
August 21, 2011
There is a commercial available storage system in addition to pumped hydro storage deployed in the 100s of Megawatts in Spain and delivering 1000s of GWh of electricity to the Spanish Grid. It's called Solar Thermal with Molten Salt Storage.

I mentioned it above and still someone wrote that it didn't exist.

Google Torresol Gemasolar - Baseload Solar Thermal plant.
Maurice Turgeon
Maurice Turgeon
August 21, 2011
I've got a feeling a lot of "right answers" have been mentioned and it's like real estate..location, location, location.

If you own a huge cave and a wind turbine..compressed air sounds great.

If you live on a river and own a thousand acres why not divert some water during the rainy season and drain it back through a turbine when it's most profitable. This will also provide flood control, recreation and a fresh water supply.

No wind, water, cave or transmission lines? If you've got a lot of land and sunlight a PV farm may be a good investment.

Near tidal waters go for it! It would work great with pumped storage.

My point is.. there are many answers, all based on assets and resources.
shanmugham kangala
shanmugham kangala
August 21, 2011
It is unfortunate that there is no commercially viable storage system for Wind and Solar power plants, other than pumped hydroelectric stations in the network.

I understand that hydrostatic transmission is being tried out for Wind Turbines - variable speed and intermittent power will be converted into hydraulic energy and stored in accumulator and it will drive Synchronous Generator at constant speed. It appears to be still in prototype stage but looks promising. The storage aspect is yet to be fully developed and exploited.

Hydrodynamic transmission in one of the popular brand using a well known brand had succededd but there is no storage element.

Comments are invited.
John Giannasca
John Giannasca
August 21, 2011
Hey RAB...read the article again. Then wave your mouse over the text. The you will notice that the pointer turns into a little hand when you hover over the blue writing. This indicates that you will be directed to some futher information when you click it. When you do this you will be directed to the source information that I guess Robert relied on whe he wrote the article. Have a read. I am sure that Robert will take an appology any way you give it.
Richard Balderson
Richard Balderson
August 21, 2011
"By the way, just read your reply and found 17 errors."

I don't think you can count either, so let's be having them listed? If we can't 'count' on your maths, either, it really makes a bunkum of your story.

I did find a couple and apoligise for the lapses, but 17?

The odd lapse of a matter of ten to the power six, the wrong terminology, or perhaps an inverse instead of a squared result, or something similar, is OK in a report, is it?

I generally rely on the accuracy of a report, but when I see basic mistakes, like any, and others, above, it makes me think 'cheap journalism' and not a report to be taken seriously asd a reliable, accurate assessment. I don't entirely believe all of most of the reports in most of the newspapers in Britain - because the are fecundated in some way.

As I said, an interesting report topic but just sloppy writing.

I shall now go and sift out the truths from the misleading parts.

By the way, I don't write reports too often these days as part of my job. When I do, they do need to be accurate and precise.
Matthew Wright
Matthew Wright
August 21, 2011
Solar Thermal with Molten Salt Storage is already providing 100s of Megawatts capacity and 3200GWh available at given points of time to be dispatched.

Pumped Hydro Storage is also commercial and operating around the world.

Wind power is a great "fuel saver" for these systems as is rooftop Solar Photovoltaic. Although there are advantages to having storage located on the local distribution network, the storage to provide dispatchable renewable to firm up the grid from variable wind and solar does not have to be onsite.

it is already available. Google and Youtube - Torresol Energy Gemasoalr or take a look at our website http://beyondzeroemissions.org/
John Giannasca
John Giannasca
August 20, 2011
Hey Robert this is your article do want to chime in here? With RAB and luisss denigrating you for the inexcusable (probably a capital offence in some countries) crime of not correctly proof reading your document, I need a little help. You see Robert you have to cater for a wide audience. There are those out there who could suffer symptoms similar to "road rage" when they see such an obvious typo go uncorrected.
Luis Meiners
Luis Meiners
August 20, 2011
I agree with the words and clear definitions of RAB about the difference between power and energy.
They're a standard in all over the World, even at high school level.
And I also recognize the value of the information content given by John Giannasca.
John Giannasca
John Giannasca
August 20, 2011
Hi Ken, the reason "we waste time and effort with weak energy like the wind" is that these are the renewable projects we can get financed while we wait for a better bankable alternative.
John Giannasca
John Giannasca
August 20, 2011
Hi RAB.

I am so sorry.
Can you forgive me.
I don't know what I was thinking.
I never meant to offend you.
Your opinion of me means so much.

There that should do it.

By the way, just read your reply and found 17 errors. If I were you I would fire your proof reader!!!
Anumakonda Jagadeesh
Anumakonda Jagadeesh
August 20, 2011
Excellent post on Energy Storage options. Infact with rapid advances in Renewables,Energy Storage assumes great importance.

Dr.A.Jagadeesh Nellore(AP),India
Wind Energy Expert
E-mail: anumakonda.jagadeesh@gmail.com
ken upton
ken upton
August 20, 2011
Roger is right ,but I cannot understand why we waste time and effort with weak energy like the wind .With all its major secondary effects ,when most places have running water all over the place and along there coasts . Being a bioneer ,my new IP and technology is based partly on this true water bug>>> Corixa sp. plus old and proven technology like capstan and the new hatchet rowing oars . Using modern pancake generation ,these simple TAWT systems are far more efficient than most other direct mechanical devices like HAWT . The present floating systems ,which we are working on at the moment .The space between the hulls, is to used for a funnel effect to speed up the passing REH non stop flow for easy collection . Using a hapa ( floating water kite/foil ) Take the tangential depth problem out of the system ,so very shallow water can be used The other technology that our fellow the bloggers / readers well know ,is the capstan ARM used in most fair grounds .All simple proven machines ,now with with the foil/kites collecting the passing energy . It is a very simple machine and apart from the power head and bearing . can be made with local grown materials or scrap ( in our charities reuse studies ,old washing machines and the foam from fridges etc are used alot. This keep the R&D bills down ,but our volunteers still have to eat and other overheads have to be paid . That is why little alternative R&D projects like ours >>need funds.We are not in it to make mega money but to help solve one of the worlds major problems . Putting free cheap nonstop energy into the lives of many ,makes it all worth while .How ever living in the 1st world costs alot nowadays, so that why we have to find sponsors or funding. This new TAWT systems ,will soon be quite common as the DIY designs ,the next stage of our project . Ps Note > To the blogger who wanted a simple Renewable energy box >> Its coming on fine in the workshop ,would you like to help test it and invest in the pancake.? 4paz
Roger Davis
Roger Davis
August 20, 2011
Nice article
I don't think the energy fix is anywhere in the near future. We need to focus on diversifying the energy portfolio for this county (nuclear, wind, solar, geo-thermo, natural gas and coal). The less fossil fuel based power plants we operate the better off we'll be. As the older plants are retrofitted with modern technology equipment our oil demand will deduce! It will take decades to design and build the alternative energy facilities we need to meet demand.

I believe we are heading in the right direction. Everybody needs to be patient and remain focused. We are a strong country, and we will get there!

MrGETech
http://solar-winds-tips.com
30+ Years Experience in Power Generation
Richard Balderson
Richard Balderson
August 20, 2011
''RAB...take a chill pill.''

Your response to your missing out that very important unit for the capacity of these storage systems. That tiny difference between Power and Energy (that is Watts and Joules) is annoying and is beneath you. An apology might even be in the frame.

You might consider it a minor lapse but I don't. There is also the small problem of the 'rate' at which the sorage can be used, for comparing the different technologies.

So in my opinion, a sloppy report written by someone who should know better, and (re that 'small' typo error) something about getting reports proof-read before presentation.

I enjoy a good report, but omissions like that spoil it. Makes me wonder whether it is an engineer or salesman doing it.

RAB
John Giannasca
John Giannasca
August 20, 2011
Hi Tim. Your headed in the right direction but unfortunately the friction losses of fluid flow are just way to high.
Tim Gard
Tim Gard
August 20, 2011
Thanks John and Ken. I constantly have the same arguement in my head every morning. I am a firm believer in the compressed air aspect. If we were to convert watt/hour generating windmills to air compressors, would that not greatly open up the function window of operation for the unit making its production occurance any time the blades move? Could we not then store that wind energy in the form of compressed air at night when we did not need it? Is there not much less loss of energy in a pipeline transmitting compressed air instead of a copper wire transmitting electrons?
John Giannasca
John Giannasca
August 20, 2011
Jim I also like the ammonia idea. In Australia we also have been giving it some focus. ANU has a research program that I have been following that also may be of interest.http://solar-thermal.anu.edu.au/high-temperature/thermochemical-energy-storage/
John Giannasca
John Giannasca
August 20, 2011
Ken I need to understand. You have a good, probably great, idea that you believe is overwhelmingly better than the status quo. You need to get this idea commercialized but you cant get finance or any body interested in building a plant using this concept. For this you seem to feel that banks or other lending institutions should be obliged to invest other peoples money without proper due diligence. The reason that wind and PV get up as projects is because the technology is known, the capital and operational costs are understood and the implementation of the project is also straight forward. It was not always like this. Both these industries had to go through the learning curves and had to suffer an interest rate penalty commensurate with the perceived risk of the project.
My point is that the adoption of the technolgy has to go through a reasonable standard cycle. The guy who invents the technolgy convinces a venture capitalist to invest. They build a plant or two and get it right. Thay get 'others' to say it is right and then they put their case to equity investors to build a much larger plant or a larger scale of roll out. At this time they have to sit with the banks and convince them too lend them money at a reasonable interest rate. This can only happen after they present a financial model to the bank that works. There are no short cuts. Just because you build it doesn't mean they will come.
Ken thats why I challenge you on the O&M costs. Without these verified the project wont get finance.
ken upton
ken upton
August 19, 2011
jim W I have news for you Hydrogen is not safe ,cant see it or smell it ,let Joe Public near it and we will have some mega accidents . As people will fiddle and play with things =tinkering without correct training . So used in transport and cars etc its a no no . One of the first things I ever learnt, working as the lad on high speed wind tunnels in the War office.The other thing to do with this present blog> I learnt a long time ago . Big Bankers like M&S do not spend their money on other peoples ideas .Rob and steal IP ,like in my case and this bank has been famous since the time of Tesla for just that. So John these are the people to ask for economical studies,they just do not spend millions on NO NOs Unless they are going to make mega money from them .This is why I now only copyright our inventions ,designs and principles . Next answer .Our latest technology is not in the water .its either on the river bank ,if lever is controlled . weirs, channel ,barrages etc or on a raft in the open water . The kite/ foils or the give the correct name >Hapas ( AYRS London ) Which the kite and wing group are doing a lot of R&D on ,which I am in . My present TAWT systems ,the only contact with the water is with the composite hapa ,flying at the end of the capstan arm above the WL .Collecting the REH passing through the vortex tunnel between the hulls . Major service > tow in to the ship yard and work in a easy way . Tidal is non stop on a grid system along a few miles of most coasts . This and other REH designs of ours work just off shore . Places of fast flow> weirs, caps ,river mouths where the tidal movement is at its max and the minimum interference to shipping ( THEY STAY WELL AWAY FROM THESE ROCKY SITES . Not like most new wind farms are getting built to give justification for new nuclear energy ,coat ,gas .fossil fuel backups .If we really want non-stop clean energy .Wind is a waste of time but have been good for the old money systems that are now going under,bla ,
Jim Warden
Jim Warden
August 19, 2011
The most outstanding storage is not mentioned. In Canada GreenNH3 has been storing electric with great success. Way ahead of the rest. It is a safe hydrogen. See GreenGas.cc
Anatoly Arov
Anatoly Arov
August 19, 2011
Goog and bad article, raises importance of energy storage to be major player for intemittent energy sources (wind, solar, partly tidal, etc.)
It mild to stress importance of clear meaning of KW and KWh which is storage about. Avoids subject of efficiency KWh spend to store versus KWh stored and efficiency of retrieving KWh from storage. Overall efficiency is nowhere in the article (it is matter of KWh lost by saving, or maybe goal to save something is more important and than it becomes waste).
I want to mention for compressed air storage (CAS) our recent technology SPEC that considerably increases CAS overall efficiency. SPEC needs to be prooven, but investment required to do this and also standards to compare different methods as (KWh spent to store versus KWh send for use. Cost for equipment is also should use this number)
John Giannasca
John Giannasca
August 19, 2011
Ken please. What is the O&M cost for wet energy? Why the hell would you want to put a machine in the water and then maintain it. I have heard your rant against wind. Why not back it with the economics (rather than the physics) of the kit you are flogging.
John Giannasca
John Giannasca
August 19, 2011
dlwilsondotcom...you are right to a point. You need to do the financial analysis for pay back on a peak/off-peak trading model and the differential between peak and off peak pricing is a key driver. But energy storage is much much more than this for power systems. Just a few uses of storage include:

• Diesel reduction in isolated wind – diesel power systems by significantly increasing the penetration of the wind power to the customer
• Transmission and distribution support by taking off peak power in constrained areas to support generation in peak times
• Grid support for large scale renewable integration
• Increase value of renewable assets by making their power output able to be dispatched thus reducing the reliance on government assistance for project viability.
ken upton
ken upton
August 19, 2011
Hi Why waste time and effort storing wind REH ,when Tidal and river are non stop . 70% of our world is covered by water . For far less ,we can have these non stop systems that do not need old and dirty fossil fuel backup .Or HAWT that make life impossible to live in many places and kills very important part of our eco system .Birds of pray give us so much ,why kill them with old technology. When there are many good nonstop wet energy systems coming into use or could be developed >>>given the funding .
Many years I spent many years investigating wind energy and invented Kenape systems . Kite energy nape rotors ( Eureka ) ,that have proved to be far better than the fixed wing in conventional HAWT . Now this elastromeric technology is being used in the wet versions ( Atlantis and the other copy cats now are all starting to use HAWet turbines based on kenape elastromeric flight design ) . So forget the blow job and go for the real heavy wet thing.
I ask you ,when are the public going to learn the basics of flight, fluid dynamics, density and time factors .When they do>>>noway will they invest in wind . I also agree with Jajagabor compressed air is a good clean storage ,better still >under water. Again you need water to make it really safe . ( go to the local dive shop ,and have a look) They are the people ,who use it all the time !or just ask a ecofrog . The world needs to solve the energy problems first ,then our food problems can also be solved .Direct renewable energy is the answer >>is Electric power from the non stop resources . Sun( FPSE )and moon( tides) and the sub power effects on water ( rain etc ), The rest off the energies are just a way to make business and that in the present form, are not working very well at this present moment .
We came from the sea and we now to have go back to it ,to save ourselves . With respect ,it will help us solve our major problems .Food and energy etc .
John Giannasca
John Giannasca
August 19, 2011
RAB...take a chill pill. Its easy enough to drop a h. Have you ever made a typo. How about an "atta boy" for those who get up of their...to give us a bit of insight.
Now go have a Bex, cuppa tea and a good lie down!!
Richard Balderson
Richard Balderson
August 19, 2011
I am reading this report with utter contempt for the author(s)!

Mega Watt (MW) is a POWER not an ENERGY VALUE!! A rate of energy delivery only. Completely the wrong term. Useful for a generator, but not as a storage value.

It is utterly useless as a means of assessing an istallation.

One mega watt for one second, one hour, one day? They all represent the same power but vastly different amounts of energy.

I now need to go to all the links to be able to compare the different ratings, if they are listed, even there!

It is a shame that items are writen using the incorrect terms - it just demonstrates the lack of understanding of the contributors, in my view.

RAB
John Giannasca
John Giannasca
August 19, 2011
Thanks Robert. Great to see storage articles. It's so desperately sad that storage does not get the funding it deserves. As well as an enabling technology for renewables, it will alleviate so many of our grid issues. You wonder how much of the billions grid augmentaion could be deferred or eliminated if only we invested in properly distributed storage.
3xE - electric cars 3xE - energy storage
3xE - electric cars 3xE - energy storage
August 18, 2011
European company: 3xE - electric cars already builds electric energy storage for wind and solar farms:
3xE-WES: Wind Energy Storage - http://3xe-electric-cars.com/index.php?/3xe-wes-wind-energy-storage.html
and
3xE-SES: Solar Energy Storage http://3xe-electric-cars.com/index.php?/en/3xe-ses-solar-energy-storage.html
Dave Wilson
Dave Wilson
August 18, 2011
By far the most attractive application for energy storage is in the wind industry and not the solar industry. PV generates power precisely when it is most needed in most areas of the world, whereas a significant percentage of wind energy is generated off-peak, at night. It seems to me that these two technologies occupy two very different, and equally valuable niches in the marketplace, but the PV community doesn't do a very good job of selling PV as an alternative to peak-load fossil plants.

On the energy storage issue, the value of energy storage lies precisely in the price difference between peak- and off peak-pricing, or time shifting of the resource. The prices of the storage in terms of $/kw or $/kwh only become meaningful in the context of how many times the price difference can be exploited.

Quoting from the article, "Joseph Simmons, director of Arizona Research Institute for Solar Energy (azRISE), estimates a 10-kW compressed air storage system with a $50,000 price tag can generate 30 kilowatt-hours, or three hours of electricity at 33 cents per kilowatt-hour."

If you could take advantage of a ten cent difference daily, you would earn 30 times $0.1 or three dollars a day. A thousand dollars a year, fifty year simple payback. Ouch. Am I missing something?
Lawrence Carroll
Lawrence Carroll
August 17, 2011
Nice article. I'm in particular glad to see that compressed air storage is still in the game.

While still expensive, I think it has tremendous potential for the simple, straightforward reason that unlike batteries, compressing air is not chemical-based, and thus avoids the bizarre complexities that batteries have.

Of course, that isn't to denigrate batteries, merely to contrast the two different approaches on a simple, fundamental level.

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