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Money That Dare Not Speak Its Name

By David Pierotti, Harvest Power
June 9, 2011   |   12 Comments

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June 10, 2011
A very well crafted account,with the ciggy/smokestack comparison particularly apt! But keep in mind low population (~4 million)and resource rich BC has many energy alternatives (yeah OK - perhaps not solar...),and hence fiscal persuasion allows viable choices.

Not all regions/countries HAVE such energy options! If you take (say) Bangladesh,with population 150 million & an area just ~15% that of BC,it'd be perhaps akin to levying an 'oxygen tax'! If their natural gas and 'traditional' fuels were carbon taxed,what else COULD be realistically used instead?

Carbon tax avoidance schemes may arise that encourage them to simply export more of their gas to India too. No doubt,with their per capita income just ~US$1500 p.a. (and most people subsistence workers), there'd be only trivial taxation ammounts raised anyway...

Stan. -in energy option rich (& nuclear free) New Zealand.
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Anonymous
June 10, 2011
Implied is the notion that citizens interests should be the primary driver for spending. Thus citizen financial ratios such as rate of return ROR rather than wasteful "Get elected", private profits, considerations. All public spending should be subjected to financial analysis on behalf of the taxpayers.
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Anonymous
June 10, 2011
@manuaka: Bangladesh has plenty of solar, wind and tidal waves; they can even export energy, after meeting all their domestic needs.
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June 10, 2011
Nice!
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June 12, 2011
Now if only we could get B.C. to implement a FIT system we would not need that site C dam in the Peace River valley.
B.C is a province with the same land area as Germany, France and Holland combined with a population of only four million people. We export natural resources from which the governments share is a primary source of the provinces income
B.C. is also nuclear free and does not mine its uranium.
There is a considerable amount of coal mining that goes on here with most of it being exported. Shale gas exploitation is also in the works. This will fill the governments coffers at the expense of a pristine environment and clean water. The north of the province is rich in natural gas.
Royalties subsidise the tax base.
The mayor of Vancouver wants to make it one of the worlds greenest cities and is implementing LEED standards for new construction. It is a well meaning policy but compared to a city like Copenhagen, not a hope in hell. There is just to much automobile infrastructure with the province adding more instead of rapid transit. I read recently that the cost of twinning the Port Mann bridge could of paid for a lite rail system throughout the greater Vancouver area.
There is also a phenomenal capacity for tidal power on the coast.
B.C. is only half as green as it pretends to be, or thinks it is.
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June 12, 2011
As someone working in Bangladesh I feel like i have to say something to the Bangladesh comments above, especially to this one:
'Bangladesh has plenty of solar, wind and tidal waves; they can even export energy, after meeting all their domestic needs.'

While I 'sort of' agree with the statement on solar (Bangladesh is currently the worlds fastest growing market in off-grid stand alone home systems, in 3-4 month the 1.000.000th SHS will be sold) I would like to know where the stuff about wind and Tidal comes from. A study from a few years back clearly says 'NO wind potential at all'. There might be new measurements in a few regions sometime soon, but it will be faaaaar from 'plenty of wind'. Especially because wind here is generally not strong, very unreliable and the cyclone season promises long shut down times.

Not so sure about the tidal thing. There is not so much height difference between high and low tide, waves might be an option, but before that can be harnessed someone should actually do a studey on that. If you have one, please let me know and i will get a couple of consultants.

Bangladeshs renewable sources in my point of view: Biomass and Solar. And for big solar we are lacking the space.

And they are just closing a deal with russia over one nuclear plant (creeepy!)

Export of electricity: very unlikely in the next 10-15 years. We are desperately witing for Nepal to come up with a proper amount of hydro, to export that to Bangladesh and India.Current shortage in Bangladesh is more than 2000MW and the huge share of completely unelectrified people (around 80mio!) are not considered in the demand.

Try to figure out when Bangladesh starts exporting...
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June 12, 2011
Thanks for clearing that up energizer. Anonymous had me scratching my head. I think the reference to tidal wave power was a reference to offshore wave energy technology.
Good to hear Bangladesh is going strong in the solar PV field. The thought of a Russian Nuclear reactor is terrifying. Any malfunction would be devastating in a country with such population density.
Three mile Island, Chernobyl and now Fukushima. When will we ever learn?
Who is profiting from this poorly thought out deal?
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June 12, 2011
Energizer: Thanks for your lucid insights- I too was a tad taken back by the anon.'tidal wave' suggestions!

No doubt you are well positioned to comment on Bangladesh's uptake of solar at the village level. My experiences in other Asian,African & Pacific regions indicate that even a few Watts per household may near revolutionise subsistence lifestyles. 10W panels may cost ~US$50 (~a weeks earnings), but the gathered energy can then be used for zero running cost LED lighting and cell phone charging etc. Village PVs may totally eclipse more traditional & costly alternatives-kero lamps and village charging stalls.
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Anonymous
June 13, 2011
Comment 6 of energizer: on the questions of Tidal and Wind do not read all the reports of the past, which were made by people of no faith in human ingenuity but people steeped in fear of the unknown. If Bangladesh or any other country wants to be self-sufficient in energy or whatever they need only to believe in themselves make it happen. As to exporting energy, they can do so even as a free donation to Mother Theresa's orphans in Calcutta and teach their weak Indian neighbors to believe in themselves ( and not their politicians or IAS & IPS Officers) as well to boot.
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June 14, 2011
Taxes are an ancient method that governments use to modify behavior. Even Ben Franklin was a fan. Governments have two basic measures - tax things they want to discourage and negatively tax things they want to encourage. In energy, particularly in non-renewable energy, governments generally encourage the depletion of the resource through various negative taxation. At some point or other, it was decided that the explotiation of non-renewable resources was a good thing and complex networks of accelerated depreciation allowances, exploration credits and depletion allowances came to be. Carbon taxes merely offset a small fraction of that. In BC's case, they're attempting to offset a contrary federal government policy that favors the things that they're trying to supress(e.g. coal and nuclear power). The rush to exploit non-renewables is short sighted as these resources are also the feed-stock of much manufacturing activity - this is akin to burning furniture grade hardwood for home heating. And yet, many governments have no problem with emptying the piggy bank as fast as possible leaving nothing for the future and actively encourage this behavior.

On the other hand, governments have generally considered waste disposal as a public service which they fund disproportionately through residential and personal taxation. Large scale disposers are given a volume discount. In general, large scale operators are free to use the environment as their toilet at a disproportionately low or negligible cost. One of the byproducts of this approach is the use of the medical insurance system to underwrite low-cost industrial waste disposal.
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Anonymous
June 18, 2011
@energizer: Here is a project that could help with some inspiring solutions: http://www.saharaforestproject.com/#/
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June 30, 2011
thanks for that link.
I can recommend this document:
http://www.ourplanet.com/climate-adaptation/Wolff_Deserts.pdf

Its about desertec and about the outlook and options for solar power from deserts as well as possible positive side effects of CSP in deserts and a possible grid-range for DC transmission.
According to this 90% of the worlds population could be reached and supplied with solar electricity in an economically feasable way.

Nice to read stuff, from the lobby. The author is the UK desertec coordinator. I am not a fan of one sided information, but its a good, inspiring document anyways. I carry it around on my mobile.
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