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Achieving the 20 MW Wind Turbine

By Jos Beurskens, Netherlands Energy Research Centre (ECN)
June 3, 2011   |   14 Comments
The UpWind research project has found that machines as large as 20 MW are feasible through developing a radical new design philosophy

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14 Reader Comments
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1 of 14
June 5, 2011
Is it practicable and economic? Simply because off shore wind farms are catching up,one can't go on scaling up the wind turbine. Transportation,reliability and other factors weigh much in deciding the size of the wind turbine. Long back There was Mod A and MOD B,Growian Wind Turbines which were MW size but were not successful. The only large size Wind Turbine that has been successfully operating has been Tvindmill in Denmark.No doubt BIG IS BOUNTIFUL but SMALL IS BEAUTIFUL too!

Dr.A.Jagadeesh Nellore(AP),India
Wind Energy Expert
E-mail: anumakonda.jagadeesh@gmail.com
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2 of 14
June 6, 2011
Good article, but without a mention of high altitude flying windmills. They are coming. And surprising enough, because of the upper atmosphere wind currents,there is great potential near Tokyo,New York City, and central Europe. All big users of electricity...and air travel.
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3 of 14
June 8, 2011
No mention of vertical axis machines. Whilst vertical axis machines have not so far had much of a role in the wind industry, there are possibly fewer constraints on size with vertical axis as the blades in some designs are in tension. This means that very high stiffness is not an essential design consideration any more than it would be for a sail - so allowing the possibility of far lower blade weight, and construction of blades in multiple sections. The design also allows the generators to be far lower in the tower, reducing crane requirements.
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4 of 14
June 8, 2011
In Norway they are putting verticle axis turbines ontop of buildings.No tower. Minimum vibration.And close to zero transmission loss.
Small can be beautiful. But expect to see those high-altitude-flyers soon and my guess is that they will get huge. So, to agree with Dr.Nellore above SMALL and BIG can be beautiful.
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5 of 14
June 8, 2011
UpWind is one of the most important reports now.
Please read it before posting "smallwind is pretty",
UpWind is about cents per kwh, via upscalling to the limits.
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6 of 14
kwh
June 9, 2011
Transportation over-land with such huge components renders a problem.

Well, easy fix there: Don't build on the land. As the units will be
used offshore, build them on the deck of a covered barge. Many
100' x 400' barges available for same. Let that be the research and manufacturing centre. Then tow it to the location of erection, to
be used/worked with other vessels. Or, bring a second barge alongside
the first, the 'delivery' barge, crane the finished products onto
same, take to erection location.

The only reason transpo over land is a problem is the problem that
people cannot see around. Chuck the land. Work the foreshore, onto the onshore ~ offshore.
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7 of 14
Anonymous
June 16, 2011
To gouxiang12

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Can the moderators block comments from this individual?
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8 of 14
June 17, 2011
Without all that brilliant science and engineering, the landscape would not now be littered with thousands of 2 MW wind turbines. In some places (like the Beauce in France), they even improve what little scenery that used to exist.

It's normal for some urban people to get anxious at the notion of wilderness, but will everyone who goes to the seaside be happy at the sight of the proposed huge turbines? There must be a gentler solution somewhere.
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9 of 14
June 17, 2011
to christopher lee ; sure, I've got an idea, we could burn fossil fuels for another few decades. continue our history of oil wars. continue our spiralling up of cancers and respritory illnesses. continue our global weather disasters until France is now a desert, and the wine country has moved to Scandinavia. OR MAYBE, just maybe, the "civilized world" wakes up to what we are doing, tells a few NIMBY's, "sorry, but we need those wind mills, solar farms, biomass generators, etc. because we can't continue on the destructive path we are on." Or better yet ....
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10 of 14
June 18, 2011
"but will everyone who goes to the seaside be happy at the sight of the proposed huge turbines?"
you have no idea, please READ.
Upwind Offshore is far, you can´t see it from seaside. Period.
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11 of 14
June 19, 2011
dear lagarwerks,
This is a terrific proposal. I support the effort and believe the only ways to get to 20MW windmills are offshore and high-altitude.
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12 of 14
June 19, 2011
20MW is only OFFSHORE.
It is too big to move onshore.
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13 of 14
June 19, 2011
I understand that. My comments stem from the critique of windmills appearance in the landscape.(see comment #8 above) I think they are beautiful.
Graceful, Kinetic, sculptures that get us into a more sustainable future. I want to see thousands of them. And yes, even where I live.BUT, getting back to the 20MW windmills...you are right to expect them strickly offshore. And if you study wind energy maps,that's where the best potential is anyway.My comment #9 above may seem extreme but, I believe that our social / climate / energy situation is so extreme that we need to make huge steps away from fossil fuels or we as a world society will pay severely.
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14 of 14
September 23, 2011
No matter the size from 3.6 to 20 MW, it will go offshore for all the right reasons, wind is heavier (dense), it is laminar (no turbulence) and large loads are easy to handle with the right tools and equipment, that are proven in the pearls of the World's Oceans, the large turbines need proper foundation to support them in the ocean, or they do nothing at all. The Titan MSIP resolves all the problems associated with large offshore turbine installations. It is self installing, resolves the natural frequency issues and is 50% less than the present proposed systems. So the mating half of the system is there ready to go to work. You can see it at www.offshorewindpowersystemsoftexas.com
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