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Garbage: To Burn or To Bury

By David Tenenbaum, The Why Files
March 29, 2011   |   30 Comments
The Why Files ask: Does burning beat burying?

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1 of 30
March 29, 2011
Gasification is another technology to consider. Much much cleaner than incineration. With small scale gasification there is no need to truck 95% of your waste to the landfill. www.istenergy.com
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Anonymous
March 29, 2011
David, Thanks for this posting. Very few people realize that you can remove the vast majority of air pollution with scrubbers and modern technologies. I first learned about incineration as an undergrad and have never understand why it is not more commonly used. We can absolutely pair good recycling programs with incineration and drastically reduce our landfill needs. If we wanted to do even better, we could tax manufacturers that use those plastics which are impossible or inefficient to recycle (basically everything except the #1 and #2 plastics). This would really reduce our waste stream.
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3 of 30
March 30, 2011
Kerbside collection is pretty expensive and economics depend on value of material recycled. Often low value materials are collected at huge cost and waste to energy plant offer the most cost and environmentally effective solution.

One other thing to note is that the balance of emissions from decomposition of the materials whether via natural degradation (slow) or through incineration (quick)are no different although the chemical compositions may vary slightly.

Modern incinerators are environmentally the better solution - displaces fossil fuels.
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4 of 30
March 30, 2011
This is one of the few articles I've seen on WTE that attempts to be so balanced. But as a municipal recycling coordinator in the SF Bay area, where we are approaching 75% diversion, I find some things missing. 1) Compost! In the US, half of municipal waste is compostable (food, greenery, clean wood, food-soiled paper) while we've lost 50% of our topsoil through factory monocrop agriculture. We desperately need healthy soil to grow food crops that can survive erratic weather and droughts, and bee survival requires less pesticide use. My city collects more organics than trash from residents and has a growing commercial program. Compost facilities sell all they can make. 2) In the EU, there are large subsidies for creating "green energy" that are not available for energy conservation, so recycling and composting are at a financial disadvantage. 3) WTE equations never include the energy needed to replace the products you have unnecessarily burned. 4) Let's be real - when you make the expensive investment in an incinerator, you need those disposal fees coming in every day to pay off the bank that financed it. But even WallMart is composting now and reducing waste at every level. Landfills can better tolerate waste reduction. 5) Without incinerators we are motivated to find more every year that we can recycle. Rigid plastics and film plastics have markets. Buildings are deconstructed rather than demolished, and construction waste is sorted - wood chips go to mulch or a small dedicated WTE that only burns scrap wood. We even have a mattress recycling plant. 6). Recycling is funded by collection fees and by a surcharge at the landfill of $8/ton. (You won't find an incinerator with a surcharge for recycling.) Why do we pay $100/ton to dispose of "waste" but insist that recycling the same materials should pay for itself? 7) Recycling creates more jobs! 8) "Trash" was created in diverse ways. We need a diverse whole-system approach to manage this resource.
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5 of 30
March 30, 2011
I live in Belgium, which recycles 60% of it's consumer economy wastes. Belgium is a small country with very high population density, therefore not much landfill possibilities. Our incinerators burn what cannot be recycled. Exhaust are constantly and automatically monitored for appropriate levels. When I see on National Geography that California landfills bury paper, food wastes, plastics, electronic gear, wood and so many other stuff that is very easily recycled,I wonder why you guys are part of the First World. The U.K. city of Birmingham is now building a second incinerator that will produce electricity for 200 000 people, while getting rid of a million tons of wastes per year that cannot be recycled or composted. Yes the main culprit is our wasteful consumer economy, but touching that means economic suicide, given that our western system is based on continuous growth that generates even more wastes every year, until we choke to dead in our wastes.
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6 of 30
March 30, 2011
Dioxins may be broken down by very high tempertures with suficient residence time but unless rapid quench is used they simply reform as the stack gases cool as all the elements are still present.

Pre notified sampling of stack gases for testing for dioxins is easily manipulated by changing the mix of feedstocks (eliminating all chlorine based wasteduring the sampling period).

You also need to analyse the toxicity of the waste ash and its concentration.
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7 of 30
March 30, 2011
I don't mind incinerators if they are the final product of a good recycling program, but I agree, that also would include some means of using organic materials to create fertilizer and methane. ("biogas generators") Most of our fertilizers are made from oil, and in order to replace that, we'll need biogas which leaves behind a residue of nitrogen-rich material that can be dried and sold as fertilizer. It has to be kept free of harmful chemicals though...
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8 of 30
March 30, 2011
Take a look at how the incinerator in Harrisburg, PA is causing the city to go bankrupt. There is strong opposition to a proposed incinerator in Frederick, MD due to the extraordinary cost--including the "put of pay" provisions that you mentioned. Not to mention the location at the site of an important Civil War battlefield. Also, as you mentioned, if it is not part of a municipal heating system, the efficiencies are not very attractive.
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9 of 30
March 30, 2011
Good article, it brings to the forefront a technology that has advanced and could help reduce the bulk of trash we produce. Always with such operations we must consider that the remaining ash, and harmful byproducts recovered in the scrubbers has to be disposed of properly, since they do contain heavy metals such as cadmium, zinc and lead, arsenic is also present. Those hazardous products are produced in substantial quantities, based on the capacity of the trash to energy unit and cannot be dumped haphazardly. If exposed to rain and weather the resulting "soup" can contaminate ground water. Very similar problem you would encounter disposing of "flyash" from a coal burning power plant.
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Anonymous
March 30, 2011
If you focus on what really matters in sustainable waste management technology, (i.e., economics, energy efficiency and emissions), then the optimal policy is recycle up to the point where the marginal revenue from resource recovery is less than the marginal cost of processing another pound of post-sort MSW. Thereafter, pyrolytic gasification of post-sort MSW, production of a high BTU Syngas, and its combustion in a Combined cycle powerplant is the preferred strategy. Incineration plants are carbon and energy inefficient, and should be phased out along with landfills to protect the climate and improve energy efficiency.
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11 of 30
March 30, 2011
Yes, gasification is definitely superior to any incineration, as it does not dilute the gas before cleaning.
Especially with the new PARS (GlidArc) technology and its ability to break down dioxins, this is the most promising and cheapest way to go.
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12 of 30
March 30, 2011
Excellent article. Bur burying and then utilising it to generate power is less polluting.

Dr.A.Jagadeesh Nellore(AP),India
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Anonymous
March 30, 2011
To maximize the energy efficiency of the gasifier, minimize any external fossil or electricity inputs, and minimize emissions of air toxins including dioxins and carbonyls, the gasifier should be air & oxygen free and be dual fluidized bed so that the char is combusted to create all the heat necessary for Syngas production. DOE proved this technology in the 80s, and then abandoned it in favor of "clean coal", nuclear, ethanol, and other inferior technologies where the campaign contributions and bribes flow freely to politicians and bureaucrats.
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14 of 30
March 30, 2011
Especially with a cold-plasma hot scrubber, which makes sophisticated gasifiers unnecessary (1/3 cost).
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15 of 30
March 30, 2011
One of the several features of the approach my firm (Advanced Alternative Energy Corp) is offering is the conversion system can be operated as a combustor/incinerator or a gasification system. The choice will be at the operator's option and will depend largely on what types of feedstocks are available. For more information contact Les Blevins at LBlevins@aaecorp.com
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Anonymous
March 30, 2011
A good article but not really up to date. Comment #10 was right on point. An overview also needs to mention the open ended manner of antitrust cases regarding waste flow control ordinances. Any type of investment in advanced waste management needs certainty in resource (waste) flow. Overall, incineration is an old technology. Even if one uses a duel cycle turbine generation system, it has a lower total efficiency than a co-gen (CHP) as used in Europe. Even Covanta admits that incineration is not the way to go in the future. Some sort of gasification appears to be the best starting point, but there are multiple uses of the syngas. The higher valued product is ethanol which also results in surplus electricity for the grid after all process energy requirements. Commercial waste-to-fuel facilities are being constructed in Alberta Canada, Mississippi and Florida with others at end permitting and financing phases. Last February, the first waste- to- fuel conference was held in Chicago and covered multiple aspects of advanced waste management. No one thought incineration was in the mix. In reality, making fuel or electricity is recycling. The nature of recycling hydrocarbons should not be use biased but based on economies and GHG evaluations. My question to comment #4 is - when you compost, where does the hydrogen go? Methane release from MSW is an issue and low carbon fuels need the hydrogen. Bill Brandon, Advanced Biofuels USA
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Anonymous
March 30, 2011
Commenter #16 raised some great points. Whether waste derived syngas should be converted to electricity, snynthetic natural gas, biofuels, or even specialty chemicals is primarily an economic question of relative prices and processing costs, that also has environmental implications. The end product with the highest economic return my not provide the highest carbon efficiency, or environmental benefits. But just the potential to produce end products that are more valuable than electricity (e.g., mixed alcohols, polyethylene, etc.) should provide impetus to avoid incineration and composting of MSW. In addition, you are absolutely correct that discrimination by the government against energy and chemical products derived from gasification of petroleum based plastic or other waste streams makes no environmental or economic sense since most plastic waste deposited in a landfill will end up in the atmosphere as GHG, with little or no offsetting reduction in emissions. We need smarter regulation and a smarter government to optimize the economic and environmental benefit of waste processing and disposal. Only a cradle to cradle and cradle to grave assessment of the alternative pathways for emissions and value will provide an enlightened framework for good public policy.
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18 of 30
March 30, 2011
I disagree with making ethanol. Why bother when we can make cars run on natural gas instead?
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19 of 30
March 31, 2011
#18.
The last time I checked, natural gas was not a renewable resource, however the oil & gas companies paint it in their PR.
Bioethanol is.
If you insist on continuing to polute the air we (hope to) breathe, why not LPG ?
Please, depart for Non-Renewable Energy World.
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Anonymous
March 31, 2011
MJ, if you gasify MSW to produce Syngas, and then thermochemically convert that to compressed Synthetic Natural Gas, the resulting "Biofuel," which can replace gasoline or diesel in an ICE or turbine, is GREENER than any corn or even cellulosic ethanol produced on earth relative to carbon efficiency and total emissions.
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Anonymous
March 31, 2011
To comment #18
#19 above is correct, but stick around this site anyway. Natural gas is a good low carbon fuel and should not be sacrificed on the alter of the perfect. It has its proper uses, but transportation fuel is not one of them. Ethanol gives higher thermal efficiencies in IC engines optimized for it than does CNG engines optimized for that fuel. Manufacturing costs for CNG vehicles is significantly greater and while ethanol needs a build out of a distribution system of blender pumps, that build out will be less expensive than a CNG distribution build out. While tailpipe GHG emissions would appear to be greater with ethanol, natural gas does not burn completely in IC engines and so emits methane. For proper combustion, it needs to be mixed with 8% hydrogen by weight which can be reformed from NG releasing CO2. Bill Brandon
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22 of 30
March 31, 2011
To 21:
Very good Bill, we do reform a little (fossil) fuel on-board to get that 8% hydrogen, that results in 15-30% reduction of fuel consumption. I did not wish to confuse anyone but you provided a perfect opening. The big question is - do we go for the gusto and do methanol from syngas (methanation is more expensive) or side with the enemy - and improve the current (fossil) IC process ?
In either case, our cheap syngas cleanup technology remains to resolve the long-standing bottleneck issue, whether we generate energy or biofuels (green diesel / methanol / hydrogen / green NG).
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23 of 30
March 31, 2011
I would like to jump back in here and state for the record that the syngas cleanup technology mjmizera is offering when coupled with the front end multi-process capable gasification technology my firm is offering can adequately address all the issues that have been raised in this discussion up to now.
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Anonymous
March 31, 2011
In response to comment 21, perhaps it is important to note that Ethanol does not fuel compression ignition diesel engines for heavy & medium duty vehicles, and therefore cannot function as a diesel substitute. In contrast, LNG and CNG can be burned in either modified diesel or dedicated ICE engines, (or co-fired with 10% diesel) with little or no loss in efficiency. Partial reforming and hydrogen enrichment is a performance enhancer that further reduces emissions. While CNG capable ICE and Diesel engines, and associated fuel storage will always be more expensive than their conventional counterparts, the fuel is significantly cheaper then gasoline or diesel without any tax or tariff subsidies.
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Anonymous
March 31, 2011
To comment #24 above -
You are very wrong that ethanol does not fuel compression ignition engines. It is an excellent substitute for diesel. Scania started development of this technology 25 years ago using ED95 (95%ethanol and 5% diesel 'enabler' for precise ignition and lubrication). Stockholm has had a fleet of over 400 busses running for nearly 20 years and are installing fueling stations for 'big rig' highway transport. Brazil has started using ED95 busses and Thailand has a program for a fleet of 3000. AHL Tec has a hybrid railroad diesel powered on ED95. All have equal or better thermal efficiency as diesel and obviously are much cleaner with lower GHG emissions. Google ED95 and you will find several sites concerning this. Bill Brandon
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26 of 30
April 11, 2011
Here in Europe there is alot of wasted plastics that are either burned for energy or sent to landfill. Our group is now planning pyrolysis platforms to incorporate this gasoline production into our biorefinery model by teaming with an Australian company which developed a high efficiency conversion of the crude models now employed in 3rd world countries. We hope to be able to upgrade existing platforms as well.
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27 of 30
April 11, 2011
Fernando,
To achieve successful gasification/pyrolysis you need to have a cheap, efficient and productive technology of syngas handling.
Our electric scrubbing reformer does just that by making expensive and sophisticated gasifiers and filtration systems obsolete. Look for Bioleux in your search engine.
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28 of 30
April 11, 2011
Thank you friend. I have check the system from the florida plasma company and it looks very promising. Im very interested in incorporating these processes into scalable biorefineries using biomass. Please contact me for planning to set up some processing facilities in the near future. I believe we could save millions in the mean time.
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Anonymous
June 28, 2011
I live in Marion County Oregon where the Covanta incinerator is located that is referred to in this article. In fact I have been following the issue for the past 15 years...and just completed a study by the League of Women Voters of Marion/Polk Counties. A couple of facts missing from this article. Ash. WTEF do reduce the volume of materials by about 80%. That leaves 20% of concentrated ash that also included all the toxins, heavy metals and dioxins that were produced when the waste was burned and including all the residue from the 'srubbers.' We now have 3 very large and unfortunately leaking ash mono-fill landfills. Marion County, not Covanta owns the ash and the responsibility for caring for it forever! Second issue not discussed is the emission standard...both EPA and state. Look closely and you will see two problems with the emissions standards. !) they are not set based on health issues; 2) they are basically set by the industry. They take the top 10 most efficient incinerators and average them. Third, the jobs issue. Here Covanta has 33 employees. At a local recycling recovery facility they employ 500 people. Those are local dollars going back to the local economy. Finally, WTEF are owned by an outside company. Not the local people. You pay them to build it, you pay them to operate it, you pay to store the ash, you pay to repair the plant, you pay to clean-up leaky ash pits, you pay for everything. What does the company do? They take 90% of the profits out of your local economy.
True that some of the plastic are not currently recyclable at a profit. However, new technologies are emerging all the time. But not if we burn the materials. Necessity is the father of invention. WTEF remove the necessity to do better.
Covanta is excellent at PR and turning a tale to attract the public, but with 20 years of experience living with them in our midst, no one who knows the facts would make the same decision to let them in if given the chance to do so today.
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30 of 30
June 28, 2011
Plastics are easily made into renewable transport fuels using vacuum gasification and combining a catalyst in the condensation phaze. A modular refinery is now available that can produce 2Mgy starting at $6.5 million. I am willing to finance these projects. azorianworld@hotmail.com
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