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Virtual Power Plants Set To Potentially Change Power Structure

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1 of 8
January 19, 2011
Yes and at present we know of only one (working) community energy storage device. GreenNH3 is working yet all the investors run and hide ?? Big Oil scares even the largest investors.
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January 20, 2011
History is repeating itself, also in technology.
Once upon a time, back in 2001 through 2005, the Euopean taxpayers did spend 30 percent of a 8.6 mio Euro budget to get a Virtual Power Plant installation running. 11 European project partners, including famous names like Vailland, Plug Power Holland, DLR, Cogen Europe created this Virtual Power Plant. It consisted out of micro-CHP PEM Fuel Cell systems, each with an electrical output of 4.6 kW and a thermal output of 9 kW. As feedstock, natural gas was used.

They were all combined wireless to form the Virtual Power Plant. Allowing not only balancing the indicidual power requirements, but also the grid`s electricity needs. The project achieved 138.000 hours of cumulative operation and produced almost 400.000 kWh of electricity and a heat output of 800.000 kWh.
Source:
"The Hydrogen Society...more than just a Vision?"
ISBN 78-3-937863-31-3
The know how gained here is still excisting, it was also already paid for by all EU citizens.

More here:
http://www.hydrogenambassadors.com/background/facts.php
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3 of 8
January 20, 2011
If I consume power from a virtual power plant, will I get a virtual bill? I'd like that.
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Anonymous
January 21, 2011
If software controlled virtual power plants become ubiquitous, then, we would not have any power shortages and we would also achieve the minimal cost/unit of energy. I am looking forward to further developments. By decentralizing both production and consumption, there will be greater reliability and less of a environmental impact. All of these benefits ought to encourage creation of VPP.
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January 21, 2011
I like what Strummer has said. DER certainly has its merits. The scale to accomplish this "movement" needs gov't support and protection from the existing powers of oil and gas lobbyists. A rural region, preferably in the SE U.S. could demo a project using a combination of sun derived technologies such as Pv, solar thermal, ethanol, and powered through microturbines, etc...
This demo will prove what Strummer is saying; people create power and it's free. The capital cost will come from the manufacturers of DER products and they will profit from the billionaires club below. Why should corporations control energy for profit?

More preferably would be a billionaires club including Gates, Zuckerberg and Buffett to fund the demo because our Senators are paid off and cannot agree on anything.
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6 of 8
January 21, 2011
The B-club are the ones who own congress. I'm not holding my breath for them. Bill Gates just made another big investment in the oil industry, from what I read on-line yesterday.

We need little guys, underground to pilot-project it 'til it works, then spread it out quietly. Maybe Steve Jobs wants to help.

Vermont is using states-rights language to do its own thing with health care. It's like Nixon going to China.

Pilot it some little place where the big boys are not looking. It just has to flank them.
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January 21, 2011
Actually, Sam, I was just having some fun with the idea of a virtual electric bill. Thirty or so years ago, "computing" or "information technology" meant a main-frame computer. Now there are just a few main-frames around along with the Crays and such at univerities and research facilities. With that model (transition from central processing to distributed), I think the virtual grid makes a lot of sense. On the consumption end, we ARE distributed. And, the utilities know how to deal with that. But they like to deal with big blocks of power such as factories and such.
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January 24, 2011
I am an M.A Gender Analysis Economics Postgraduate student. I think this a very good initiative.

However, how can we incorporate the women to become economically empowered by use of renewable energy?
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