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The True Cost of Renewable Energy

By Tam Hunt, Renewable Energy Consultant
December 8, 2010   |   37 Comments

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December 9, 2010
Excellent article clearing up what appears to be a very misguided LA Times piece!!!

I hope that this article is published in the LA Times in a prominent place (or is that wishful thinking?).

To those of us who understand the nature of the various forms of energy production that have dominated in the past and those (like solar) that could be one of the dominant sources of the near future, the so-called "high cost" of solar is a myth anyway.
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December 9, 2010
Article does not include the low costs of solar direct steam hybrids being rolled out in other areas of the world using "direct evaporation" technology that eliminates the problem of a two phase boiling water in a horizontal receiver. Instead of sharing a steam turbine as other hybrids, all components are common with the exception of solar direct steam superheat collectors and receivers.
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December 10, 2010
Great Article
Up to date, precise and informative.
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December 10, 2010
The greater sum of all renewable energy development is insignificant if reductions/conservation is not a part of the equation.
Renewable energy development cost and rate factors must include the socio-economic as well as environmental costs in order to provide a balanced report/estimate.
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December 10, 2010
I also appreciate this article. It doesn't mention the carbon credits that could be applied to SREC's. Doesn't CA trade in these? Some eastern states are getting connected with this. Using excess carbon taxes to offset SREC's makes payback a much smaller time frame for those who get informed and involved in it. Or- is this the reason the UTE's say electric rates must rise? These trading boards are the future genius of RE implementation, and they are just complicated enuff to be outside the understanding of a "quick info" society. I'd like to see some talk shows take this topic up so it can get the understanding it deserves. It can be the profitability tipping faction that moves solar energy mainstream and removes the cost factor from the RE assulters ammo belt.
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December 11, 2010
Hello,

I didn't see any discussion about the 14.5% rate hike - is that conceived to be the result of the additional capital, or the additional cost of energy production, or both? I suspect that the rate hike will take place regardless what happens - it's only 1,4% annually, and my guess is that local increases exceed that rate already, probably due, at least in part, to additional taxes to help the state out of its dire economic straits.

Also, there was no talk of inflation rates - is this thought to be net of inflation? Otherwise, the rate increase is ridiculously low.

In any case, I enjoyed the article. It's just depressing to realise how inaccurate newspaper reporting can be, in addition to their built-in prejudices.
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December 12, 2010
Great piece, Tam, well done. I thought you and your readers would like to hear about this storage idea I found.
http://www.launchpnt.com/portfolio/grid-scale-electricity-storage.html
Efficient storage will make a big difference to both wind and PV and the operation of any new "smart grid" system.
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Anonymous
December 12, 2010
The author writes: "What does renewable energy cost? Isn't it still more expensive than fossil fuel electricity? Way more? In a word: no."

Presumably it is implicit that this means "No, not in CA", which is an important caveat. For example, I very much doubt that the levelized cost of new coal generation in China is anywhere near the 10+cents/kWh of Figure 2. Also, the average retail price of electricity in Wyoming is 6.18 cents/kWh as compared to the value in CA of 13.83 cents/kWh and the US average of 9.91 cents/kWh. (data from http://www.eia.doe.gov/electricity/epm/table5_6_b.html)

If, for instance, WY wanted a major increase in renewables at the prices envisioned here they would see large price increases.

The levelized costs in Fig. 2 presumably include Federal subsidies for wind and solar power. CA's share of these subsidies (which will eventually add to federal taxes) constitute an unenumerated cost of the plan.

It will be interesting to see how accurate these projections prove to be over the next decade....

Steven
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December 13, 2010
Great article Tam! I think that you could also fare well to talk about the state benefits of SRECs and the balance of plant/system costs also potentially decreasing as maintenance efforts become preventative.

One down-side you could address is the the tie of investor capital to regulation of the times in which the systems were built. there is direct correlation between investment and when SRECs and state/national incentives peak.
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December 13, 2010
I really enjoyed the article. When the discussion of true costs of electricity generated by renewable energy sources compared to fossil fuel sources takes place, I always hear the renewable energy side of the debate.....the fact that they are too expensive, but I never hear the topic of the huge subsidies that oil companies receive. I found an interesting article at: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/04/business/04bptax.html that talks about the huge subsidies that oil companies receive. For instance, oil companies are taxed for capital investments such as drilling equipment and leasing oil fields at a rate of 9% where virtually all other businesses have a rate of 25%. This saved, specifically, BP, hundreds of thousands of dollars a day. But this never comes up in discussions. I feel that if the end consumer were to see the actual price of what it costs to remove oil from the ground, refine it and transports it to the consumer, renewable energies would be that much more attractive.
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Anonymous
December 13, 2010
Mino1129 writes in comment #10: "...but I never hear the topic of the huge subsidies that oil companies receive."

There must have been a half dozen articles or blog posts at REW on this theme within just the last week or two. However, the author's article is about electricity generation policy in CA and oil does not compete with other electricity generation schemes on an appreciable basis (it accounts for less than 1% of US electricity generation) so this subject is way off the present topic.
Steven
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December 13, 2010
Steven :

"For example, I very much doubt that the levelised cost of new coal generation in China is anywhere near the 10+cents/kWh of Figure 2. "

true, but all Chinese energy producers are owned by the government, and china subsidize it's energy production massively to keep its population calm.

" Also, the average retail price of electricity in Wyoming is 6.18 cents/kWh as compared to the value in CA of 13.83 cents/kWh and the US average of 9.91 cents/kWh. If, for instance, WY wanted a major increase in renewables at the prices envisioned here they would see large price increases."

WY has huge coal reserves, and uses 30 years old written off coal plants that have no scrubbers and other cleaning equipment. Replace those old duds with new clean coal equipment and you also have 10 cents per kWh, if you manage to get a new one built.
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December 13, 2010
Steven : " The levelized costs in Fig. 2 presumably include Federal subsidies for wind and solar power. CA's share of these subsidies (which will eventually add to federal taxes) constitute an unenumerated cost of the plan. "

They do not include subsidies. Hereunder two PPA for wind and hydro in other parts of the world, that confirms the CA figures. By the way, look at the subsidies lavished on the FF sector in the USA.

http://www.windpowermonthly.com/go/windalert/article/1017436/?DCMP=EMC-WindpowerWeekly
Wind power development in the panhandle region, just north of where thousands of megawatts already spin in Texas, can be built and provide power at a cost of $25/MWh--$30/MWh. When factoring in the cost of the transmission line, Skelly says the power can be delivered to Tennessee at under $80/MWh, which is substantially less than wind would cost if built anywhere in the Southeast and much of the Eastern seaboard.

http://www.windpowermonthly.com/go/windalert/article/1024760/?DCMP=EMC-CONWindpowerWeekly
CANADA - Average wind bids lower than hydro in BC Hydro's recently completed call for clean power bid.
The wind projects average C$116.6/MWh (US$105/MWh) for firm energy. The average bid price for firm energy from hydro was C$139.9/MWh ($130/MWh). The average levelised price is C$124.3/MWh ($116/MWh). The six wind farms, with a combined capacity of 542MW, will together supply 1,528GWh of firm energy a year.

http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/article/2009/12/brazil-conducts-first-wind-only-power-auction?cmpid=WindNL-Tuesday-December29-2009
December 17, 2009
Brazil this week held its first wind-only power auction. More than 1,800 megawatts (MW) of wind power capacity was contracted. The average selling price for electricity from these projects was US $84.88/megawatt-hour.
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December 13, 2010
Steven : " The levelized costs in Fig. 2 presumably include Federal subsidies for wind and solar power. CA's share of these subsidies (which will eventually add to federal taxes) constitute an unenumerated cost of the plan. "


http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/article/2009/10/fossil-fuels-subsidies-more-than-doubles-those-for-renewables
US Fossil Fuel Subsidies More Than Double Those for Renewables. More than half the subsidies for renewables—$16.8 billion—are attributable to corn-based ethanol. Of the fossil fuel subsidies, $70.2 billion went to traditional sources—such as coal and oil—and $2.3 billion went to carbon capture and storage.
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Anonymous
December 13, 2010
Fig. ES.1 of this 2010 report:
http://www.iea.org/Textbase/npsum/ElecCost2010SUM.pdf

shows a mean levelized cost of coal in the Asia Pacific region (China, Korea, Japan, etc.) as being ~$62/MWh, which is much less that the CA estimates.

In comment #12 a-b-24958 writes: "WY has huge coal reserves, and uses 30 years old written off coal plants that have no scrubbers and other cleaning equipment. Replace those old duds with new clean coal equipment and you also have 10 cents per kWh, if you manage to get a new one built."

This is, of course, a verbose and backhanded way of saying that replacing fossil fuel plants with renewable energy IS more expensive.

One can argue that various benefits of renewable generation outweigh the increased costs, but denying that the increased costs exist seems unreasonable.

Government projections for the cost of a rollout of large quantities of new technology have a tendency to be overly rosy. Some of the new technologies will, a few years down the road, likely become cheaper than conventional generation schemes. In choosing to replace existing energy sources at such an accelerated rate CA is choosing to forgo theses future savings and is locking in high energy rates for many years. This is an interesting choice for a state on the brink of bankruptcy....
Steven
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December 14, 2010
Great article! I hope this one gets a lot of publicity - it's sorely needed.
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December 14, 2010
Many of the renewable energy technologies are capital intensive and the cost estimates never seem to indicate what return on capital is being postulated.
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December 15, 2010
Great article!

One additional piece of information that is important to consider when looking at the cost of solar power, is the fact that it does not really compete with base load production, but rather with more expensive peak power production.
In germany, they have already experienced a drop in peak pricing of electricity due to the power production from PV. In a sunny place like California, this would be even more relevant, and PV could actually lower the energy cost for consumers as it replaces the electricity produced by conventional peak production during the sunniest hours of the day.
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December 16, 2010
This is an elaborate quest to show lower costs, with even more unproven assumptions than it criticizes the original report for. It should probably be presented as a "best case" analysis, recognizing the unlikelihood of all the variables lining up in just this favorable way.

Furthermore, it ignores the fact that most renewables are add-on sources. They don't substantially replace other sources, so adding renewables is always necessarily an additional cost.
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December 16, 2010
There can be no doubt that adding renewable energy increases the cost of energy. The reason is quite simple: new power plants are being deployed that are both unreliable and not really needed.

The real question is how high electric bills (and taxes) are going to rise and is the net impact more bad than good.

The observation on reductions in the cost of renewable energy applies equally well to more traditional energy production. Examples include: (1) natural gas prices of around $4/mmBTU, likely well below the assumptions of the 2009 report and; (2) the ever increasing efficiency improvements and cost reductions of combustion turbines using natural gas.

The published "cost of energy" is highly dependent on the assumptions made in the underlying calculations with the results easily badly skewed, as driven by the biases of those involved.

A "hand-grenade" evaluation is a more reasonable method for assessing general trends and impacts because nefarious biasing is much more difficult to hide. To that end, I am putting together a post to illustrate the technique, which is really quite straightforward and easily done. With every body on the same page, there is less likelihood of needless strife stemming from "apples-and-oranges" comparisons.
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December 16, 2010
" It is true that the fossil fuels get heavily subsidized. Be thankful for that... We can't afford $10 per gallon gasoline! "

Well, I have been paying $10 per gallon of diesel for my whole adult life, without any problems, living in Belgium. I drive a nice 2002 made ICE Volkswagen Golf Rabbit achieving 40 mpg mixed driving. One of my neighbors drive one of those US made pickup behemoth achieving 20 mpg, and pays double what I do to achieve the same mileage driven. He also own a Porsche, so he can afford the fuel bill. He does a brisk business running a brothel, paying his taxes like everyone else.
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December 16, 2010
" Government projections for the cost of a rollout of large quantities of new technology have a tendency to be overly rosy. Some of the new technologies will, a few years down the road, likely become cheaper than conventional generation schemes. "

Depends on what government you refer. Do not assume that everyone acts like the USA, deciding to spend $ 1000 Billion over a decade on boondoggles like introducing democracy in Iraq's tribal area's.

When 30 kW wind turbines where put in place in the 1980's in Europe, they produced power at 60 cents per kWh. 30 years later, the models are 7 500 kW sized and produce at prices around 6-9 cents per kWh. This would not have been achieved without state support in the form of ever decreasing FIT rates, allowing the most efficient technical design to become mainstream, since it could earn the most FIT's for the least capital investment; spurring intense competition between various wind turbine manufacturers keen to sell their machines to various wind park developers, wind park developers being able to get bank loans to do the capital investment, because the banks were sure to get paid back, given the FIT rate guaranteeing a small profit for the next 20 years on the capital investment done by wind park developers.

If I use your logic, then we would now have ZERO nuclear power plants, since it was the military that spent Trillions on corporations to allow them to develop compact and safe nuclear power generators for their shiny submarines and aircraft carriers, concepts that then were upgraded and put to civilian use by utilities, without this being seen as a market screwing mechanism by you.

You get my point that there is no such thing as a free market when it comes to power production systems. Coal is cheap, but is not clean and is FINITE. The same can be said of Oil&Gas, so if we do not temporarily support renewable to replace this FF infrastructure later on, this RE alternative will NEVER get of the ground.
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December 16, 2010
The result will then be that your kids will go back to the stone age in no time somewhere down the road, because you and others had no foresight to get a leveling mechanism in place allowing new RE to compete with their currently established FF competitors, cheap FF competitors that still enjoy many hidden subsidies and regulatory advantages. This until RE's technology are so pervasive that they become as cheap as the latest throwaway basic mobile phone. By then you will probably be bitching about something else, like how to increase your health care services without spending any of your taxes to pay for it.
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Anonymous
December 16, 2010
a-b-24958 writes in comment #24 (in response to fireofenergy's comment #16):
"' It is true that the fossil fuels get heavily subsidized. Be thankful for that... We can't afford $10 per gallon gasoline! '

Well, I have been paying $10 per gallon of diesel for my whole adult life, without any problems, living in Belgium."

Well, real fossil fuel subsidies are less than $10 Billion dollars/year in the US, which is a trivial amount compared to the size of the energy sector and a trivial amount on a per unit of energy basis. If he pays $10 per gallon for fuel it is because Belgium chooses to tax fuel at a large multiple of its cost on the open market.
Steven
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Anonymous
December 16, 2010
a-b-24958 writes in comment #25:
"If I use your logic, then we would now have ZERO nuclear power plants, since..."

and
"You get my point that there is no such thing as a free market when it comes to power production systems. Coal is cheap, but is not clean and is FINITE..."

His first comment suggests a belief that I advocate no investment in renewables, which is quite untrue. In my comments herein I have pointed out that fossil fuel generation is not quite as expensive as Tam would suggest (at least in regions which are less sensitive to external factors, which, unfortunately is most of the world). There is a price premium to be paid for early adoption of new technology and Tam both underestimates what this is for CA and what that would be for other locations. CA has chosen (or at least its outgoing Governor but executive fiat has chosen) a massive buildout of renewable energy while much of that technology has a significant price premium. A slower buildout would ensure better prices for decades into the future compared to what the current plan will yield. Some of the support for this plan comes from the fact that CA now imports a significant amount of energy and after the buildout it will produce a larger percentage of its own electricity; this partially ameliorates some of the price premium associated with the new technology. CA also generates a significant fraction of its electricity from hydro power (large hydro is excluded from the 33% renewable mandate) and this will reduce complications associated with intermittency.

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Anonymous
December 16, 2010
continuation of #28:

CA now generates about 16% of its electricity from nuclear power and 12% from hydro. After you add in the 33% for non-hydro renewables you get 61% for non-fossil fuels. Much of the ~39% natural gas generation that will remain will be needed for peaking power needs. Thus, after this pell-mell buildout of renewable energy we will likely see a pause in renewable growth. One could argue that a somewhat slower growth for renewables would lead to a smoother and cheaper transition. Instead, CA has chosen to pay a significant premium to pull out way ahead of the read of the US in transitioning its electricity generation scheme. If CA was not teetering on the brink of bankruptcy this might seem reasonable, but the state isn't as rich as it once was....
Steven
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December 17, 2010
Steven, the whole point of my article is that it won't cost that much (and will probably save money long term) to get to 33%. If you disagree with that can you present facts and analysis as to why?
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Anonymous
December 17, 2010
Tam:
I had two basic criticisms of your article. The first was that the opening paragraph was clearly untrue in that it claimed renewables are not more expensive than fossil fuels under very general conditions. Presumably you don't dispute that replacing extant coal generation with renewables is more expensive and that in many important markets (e.g., China and India) new coal generation is still cheaper than renewables.

The main portion of your article actually argues a more limited proposition that new renewable generation is not more expensive than new fossil fuel generation for the special case of CA. This is a much more defensible claim and apart from a couple quibbles (see below) I would largely agree. However, it does not follow from that assumption that a rapid buildout to 33% renewables is the most fiscally responsible plan and that it is going to save CA money in the long term.

The planned additions of wind and geothermal generation probably will lead to lower costs. Solar PV and solar thermal generation, however, currently have a substantial cost premium but are expected to experience rapid price reductions in the near term (~10-20 years). When a product is experiencing rapidly falling prices the optimal purchase strategy is to buy only what you need and to defer as much consumption as possible to the future. CA is instead choosing to displace some relatively cheap extant coal generation (imported) and significant extant natural gas generation (where prices have moderated recently due to new nontraditional natural gas production advances) with more expensive renewables, in particular, partly by expensive solar energy, before it is necessary. This will lead to an early adoption premium. It is ironic that even though CA has one of the best renewable energy potentials in the country it will be paying well above average energy prices for decades to come.
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Anonymous
December 18, 2010
continuation of #31:

I don't believe CA has adequately explored the magnitude of this early adoption cost. In particular, in many of its market scenarios that involve reaching renewable percentages below 33% it includes charges to purchase renewable energy credits. Why anyone in CA would feel it is good policy to pay RECs to companies in other states--which typically would have lower renewable percentages than CA--I will never understand. This almost seems designed to make a pell-mell integration of renewables the lowest cost option.

Some quibbles:
1) Large hydro is excluded from the definition of renewables in CA and unnecessarily excludes a potential low-cost solution to decreasing fossil fuel dependence
2) If memory serves, the levelized costs of new coal generation now include adjustments for CO2 generation. The EIA has an ad hoc adjustment to the cost of capital to partially account for this and I cannot recall what mechanism CA uses. I think this biases the cost of new coal generation in the tables above. As an aside, I mention that I favor making new coal plants that are not at least carbon capture ready illegal, but I think price models should accurately reflect current market conditions.

Steven
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December 23, 2010
Great article, Tam. Congratulations!

Think the "expensive" renewable energy is a result from the global policy developed in the past decades. Newest technologies are much more effective with less production costs, so to be placed on the market is a policy.

The huge conventional energy producers, suppliers and etc. that own enormous share of the energy market l are still hard involved (almost stacked) in the policy energy market, so they have a strong influence on the decision making process. And the press and the politics help that situation to be disseminated and popularized as a true. There is no absolutely clearness about the energy price generation and subsidies (both renewables and conventional). The end user is informed that his money subsidy the renewable energy production, but what about the conventional energy subsidies.
Nobody wants to speak about it at the public space.
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December 23, 2010
" The first was that the opening paragraph was clearly untrue in that it claimed renewables are not more expensive than fossil fuels under very general conditions. Presumably you don't dispute that replacing extant coal generation with renewables is more expensive and that in many important markets (e.g., China and India) new coal generation is still cheaper than renewables. "

Well, read what is now happening in China with it's 70% electricity coming from coal : they are running out of coal reserves, and as such have to cut electricity production and home heating in the middle of a harsh winter, while their citizens are dropping dead from smog and dust air pollution. Which leads to my main grit with your 'cheap coal blahblah' : calculate the health costs and economic loss of coal burning per kwh, and you don't come ahead, beside ignoring the point that coal is ultimately a dead end, since it is a finite resource.

http://www.energy-daily.com/reports/Coal_shortage_causes_power_cuts_in_China_state_media_999.html

Dec 20, 2010 - A severe coal shortage has forced power cuts in many regions in China as demand surged due to a cold snap across large swathes of the nation over the past week. In the northern province of Shaanxi, 14 major thermal power stations only had four days worth of coal stocks left, with reserves at two power stations already running out. Many plants and residents in Shaanxi had received notice of impending blackouts, with a 12 000-household compound in the provincial capital of Xian facing power cuts for the next 10 days. China, the world's second largest economy, relies on coal for 70 percent of its fast-growing energy needs and coal combustion has become one of the main sources of its air pollution. Experts have blamed the shortages on soaring coal prices, insufficient logistics facilities and increasing transportation costs.
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December 23, 2010
" The first was that the opening paragraph was clearly untrue in that it claimed renewables are not more expensive than fossil fuels under very general conditions. "

I have solar PV panels on 1/3 of my sun oriented roof area, and I live in an Earth latitude like Ontario, but in Europe. The PV panels produce 850kWh/year per installed 1kW solar PV panel capacity. In california I would get 1900kWh/year per installed 1kW solar PV panel, just because they have far more sunshine.

I cannot rely on them for days on a row when it rains profusely, but on a yearly basis, the solar PV panels cover 100 procent of my electricity consumption, and the 150 procent spare electricity produced by the panels is now used to heat some rooms comfortably during those bitter cold winter nights, by using a couple of cheap portable thermal oil heaters made in Italy, to reduce natural gas home heating bills. The 150% spare capacity will later be used to reload a PHEV vehicle, once they are competing with more expensive oil driven ICE cars, in a decade or so, once US ingenuity has done it's work and Bush III is in power.

The solar PV panels electricity cost me the same price as grid supplied 100% RE electricity, until I receive the FiT rebate, at which point I make a 7% profit on investment for the next 20 years.

Just like anyone in my street, I pay EUR 18 cents per kWh ($ 24 cents/kWh) day and night for grid electricity, and my country has 55 percent of it's electricity produced by nuke plants and the rest by fossil fuels, excepted for the 6 procent sourced from renewable resources. We import it all, since our own non-renewable resources have been exhausted a year or fifty ago.

That 's why I switched long ago (2006) to another utility guaranteeing 100% RE grid electricity supply to my home, at the same price as fossil fuel or Nuke plant electricity, utilities gouging their prices to increase their profits margins on our backs . . .
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December 23, 2010
" However, it does not follow from that assumption that a rapid buildout to 33% renewables is the most fiscally responsible plan and that it is going to save CA money in the long term. "

CA will reap the fruits of that decision faster than you can think just by the know-how gained building that new infrastructure and new plant investments being directed in that area instead of going to China.
CA will reap the fruits of that decision faster than you can think especially when I read on this website that peak electricity rates in most of CA are above $30 cents per kWh, and dayrates are often above $20cents/kWh, which means a tidy profit for those out of state coal plants producing polluting electricity at $6 cents/kWh.
CA has made a strategic choice to invest in $10 to $20 cents/kWh CLEAN and RENEWABLE electricity produced INSTATE, so that their population have cheaper electricity AND more jobs.
After all, each dollar invested IN California generates at least cents in taxes and lateral benefits in the local economy (tax on wages, tax on materials, less health care benefits and unemployment benefits to be paid, local McDo having customers, etc etc), while you give work to instate people, instead of sending your few dollars to other US states that are competing with you with all means they have).
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Anonymous
December 24, 2010
a-b-... writes in comment #34:
'Well, read what is now happening in China with it's 70% electricity coming from coal..."

I note that no one has suggested that coal generation does not have some drawbacks (some of which, e.g., mercury emissions, could be eliminated by scrubbers while still retaining a price advantage vs. renewables). The point is that decisions on energy generation in much of the world are made on the basis of price and not on externalities. On this basis coal wins, so if you want to understand what is going to happen in the market you have to have a realistic estimate of price. It is clearly not true to suggest that there isn't a price differential for renewables vs. coal (as the first paragraph of this story does) because in regions of the world that are especially price sensitive coal generation gets the lions share of new generation.

It is worth noting that China is (by far) the world leader in new hydro generation (as well as total hydro generation) and new wind power generation. It is also a leading market for new nuclear power. Unfortunately, these sources, and other renewables are simply not enough to meet their enormous needs for new electricity generation. Non-fossil fuels don't yet offer a cost effective alternative; there us much work left before they come close to doing so and it is just nonsense to suggest otherwise.
Steven
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Anonymous
December 24, 2010
a-b writes in comment #35:
"Just like anyone in my street, I pay EUR 18 cents per kWh ($ 24 cents/kWh) day and night for grid electricity..."

24 US cents/kWh is an outrageous price for electricity. This is about 240% of the US average and if CA were to have to pay such rates it would suffer a huge economic hit as industry flees the state to get cheaper energy in neighboring states. Already the price differential they pay is counterproductive. The 2010 census shows that after decades of well above average population growth CA only grew at about the national average while other states such as TX and FL with less expansive governments enjoyed the largest growth. CA is still choosing to spend as if it is wealthy and is going to pay a significant early adoption cost for its rapid push for 33% non-hydro renewables (~45% with hydro). A slower adoption rate together with greater R&D support for newer renewable schemes, a greater emphasis on space and hot water heating, and a stronger push for energy efficiency improvements would almost certainly do more for the environment at lower cost than the current plan would do.
Steven
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December 25, 2010
How about the rising cost of fossil fuel? Electricity rates have risen 6% on average per year for the last 35 years in California.
The cost of solar production does not increase and needs little or no maintenance lasting 50 years or longer. 50 years ago is about the time the first solar systems went into production and are still producing electricity.
The lack of additional expense for future production makes solar less expensive over time, constant, and should lower the cost of production to the utility.
Then there is the carbon credits that may make a windfall for clean energy producers.
Then there is the cost of cleaning up the mess from fossil fuel production which ends up on the government lap "for the common good". The taxpayer pays for the clean up in the form of higher taxes.
Initial cost is high but the benefits over time mitigate those costs and make solar a clean inexpensive fix.
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Anonymous
December 31, 2010
"logical1" writes in comment #39:
"How about the rising cost of fossil fuel?"

Actually costs for electricity generation by natural gas are FALLING. Here is the EIA estimate for levelized costs of various plants entering service in 2016:
http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/aeo/electricity_generation.html

Note carefully that the EIA cost estimate for new combined cycle generation is $83/kWh the lowest of any generation source and much lower than the numbers Tam cites above, which are not as up to date. CA relies mostly on natural gas generation so in the absence of this shift to renewable generation it should experience falling electricity prices.

It might still be reasonable to move all new generation needs to renewables, but the rush to replace already available sources is an unnecessary expense.
Steven
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