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Obama May Kill Key DOE Loan Guarantee Program

By Jim Lane, Biofuels Digest
November 8, 2010   |   10 Comments

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Anonymous
November 10, 2010
The same gridlock occurs in State Govt. When they will not allow qualified solar and wind project installers to "Install" because they now want NABCEP training as part of the qualifications. This is nuts! I know a dozen companies and contractors that have hundreds of installed and inspected systems working just fine with out NABCEP training. Take a hint From the title.. National Board of Certified (ENERGY) Practitioners,. This includes, OIL and Coal and Nuke, industries. The same people hampering Solar Industry efforts.
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November 10, 2010
Ditto, I bet all these solar lawmakers do not have a system installed at their house. Think of all the time and tax payer's money going into policy that the tax payer could of used to purchase and install a system for themselves and be independent of the grid. The products are readily available to purchase just as any other product. But do we have policy for toilet paper. We should with all the S#*% their pushing. They've already ousted thousand of small guys who got this business going and are pushing their own agenda, once again. Kills me we can let politicians make engineering decisions. As engineers, we should cut them off and do what is right as we were taught to do. Let them design and install their own systems and war machines, if they can.
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Anonymous
November 10, 2010
Funny how soooo many people believe they can install solar w/o any REAL qualifications or experience. IF you find the NABCEP exam too difficult, then you should not be installing solar--anybody owning a "white van" thinks they can enter to solar market--these entrants are simply giddy at the prospect of duping unsuspecting consumers.
1705 should be killed off and the money transitioned into 1603--Biden is an idiot and only trying to protect the administrations floundering from becoming obvious to the public (Solyndra is the poster child for this).
Admit your mistakes and move the money to where it is needed: (PROJECTS!)
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November 10, 2010
I'm not on either side here but I think with so many "remodeling" companies now advertising solar pv systems, some sort of strong regulatory presence is needed. Although here in CA there are plenty of rules and regs already in place.
And by the way, unless they've changed it recently, NABCEP is actually North American Board of Certified Energy Practitioners (this to include Canada I believe where one of the first directors was from).
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November 12, 2010
Brian, I am a 20yr veteran of the Solar Industry and I have just mixed my AE Methodologies with the first of its kind low cost Solar Powered "Micro Housing" Kits starting @ 30K...
Almost all Major Metropolitan Areas in North America the top 3of there biggest concern's is still not enough affordable Housing. Let alone one that cost less upfront and cost less to live in as well...
Taking orders now…

SolarmanJD
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November 16, 2010
It is obvious that inverter technology has been advanced enough that it is allowed "guerilla" solar operations to occur without mishap for the past ten or more years (inverter "plug and play" has been around for awhile). Thus over-regulation is quite possible. HOME POWER magazine used to have monthly stories of those who did these "underground" projects safely, though they were quite small in power and size.

While I have nothing against inspection before the "switch" is pulled, I would bet that government is overdoing it a bit in the regulation department . . . like the old joke about "the department of redundancy department."
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November 18, 2010
NABCEP isn't needed. It's only another layer of administration with little purpose. Most installers I've dealt with as an employee or consultant are very competent and safety conscious and aren't certified. I did have a state certified contractor do some work recently - lousy job. I had to do the refixes myself to get it right.
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November 18, 2010
To anonymous (where did you get your information??): NABCEP means: The North American Board of Certified Energy Practitioners (NABCEP) and is the "gold standard" for PV and solar thermal installation certification. Designed to raise industry standards and promote consumer confidence, NABCEP offers certification and certificate programs to renewable energy professionals throughout North America.
After installing solar energy here in Michigan for 30 years I'm ok with there finally being a standard for solar installers. Especially one that covers North America. I'm tired of competing with fly by nighters that show-up every time a rebate comes around. Solar works well as an energy source and needs have solid credentials and a skilled workforce. Yes, many of the newer inverters make it a simple plug and play but there is a lot of design involved, working with utility companies, financing options, repair, service and support over time required. Many installations are not flashed right and can rot a roof at the footings - only trained true professionals know the small details that make a quality installation. I'm ok getting properly certified after all these years and adding dignity and credibility to a great field of clean energy that I want to see grow. Certification plus solid references and hundreds of not thousands of installations sounds golden to me.
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November 18, 2010
The DOE had $2.5 billion for "breakthrough" technologies and they couldn't find any. That's very telling.

I bet if they simply made it "prize money" for clean, affordable electricity maybe they'd find some breakthroughs.
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Anonymous
November 19, 2010
The DOE had a number of "breakthrough" technologies that either individually or combined would have put us all this time ahead in commercialization. Company A's technology was ready to go and fit the bill perfectly. It was a demonstrated technological ignorance for what comprised the basic functions of what the government had asked for from the newer companies who actually had the technology. These governmental know-nothings destroyed some very dedicated Americans when they simply gave up out of stupidity, short-sightedness and their devotion to business as usual awarding huge sums of tax dollars to obvious pigs that sure looked good to to an ignorant bureaucrat on paper,

Basically it comes down to faith in a large, campaign contributing corporation is easier to come by than faith in a smaller business where personalities are unknown. I think it's for this subjective "reason" that the American "Can Do spirit" was vacated by the Federal Government to line the pockets of corporations with nothing to offer but more research. Had they given $100mm to a friend and insider, I believe he would be hiring by the hundreds per month by now. What a deal! Why pay for such piss-poor performance? I won't. I'm done supporting my friends being tossed in the trash by the Federal Government on a whim. The GOP has exactly 2 years to make several miracles or I say we scratch both partys and create from nothing two new ones without the corruptedness.
They had the diamond in their hands, several of them. But chose the turquoise instead.

Last chance for th eGOP.
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