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MIT Researchers Find a Stable Way To Store the Sun's Heat

By David Chandler, MIT News Office
October 29, 2010   |   8 Comments
Storing thermal energy in chemical could lead to advances in storage and portability

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October 29, 2010
No energy densities were mentioned, so its unknown at this point exactly what the boundaries would be with respect to
various applications. 200 degrees C is pretty hot. If the density is great enough and can store the heat fast enough, it's not beyond the realm of possibilities that autos might employ such a heat battery. The Stanley Steamer lives!
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October 30, 2010
keep up the good work guys. It's nice to see we can at least still do research in the USA. I'm glad you raised the point that this might be subject to scarcity in precious minerals and metals. Just like with batteries and PV and so many other things. To what extent are we now at the point that compounds can be screened in silico or is it still mostly an empirical process where each molecule has to be painstakingly synthesized and tested?
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Anonymous
October 31, 2010
IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO COMBINE THIS WITH THE JTEC ENGINE.
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November 3, 2010
Very impressive. Is it possible to understand more fully, how the material is stored and how and what catalyst is added to created the heat reaction ? The energy density question is prime to understanding the implications of this discovery.

Additionally, if one is thinking energy storage, go further and discover how the storage component and catalyst can be an integral part of the structure it is used to heat or supply energy for. This way, if it's a building structure, efficiencies are improved and materials are minimized. If it's for motive power, then weight/mass efficiency are maximized to some extent...

Sustainability, which is strongly linked to energy use, is all about doing more with less... and eventually we'll understand, doing less with less than what true sustainability requires - i.e., reparation...
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November 3, 2010
Interesting, but how practical.Somebody would have got his PhD and nothing more.
In a world where real wages is on the downward trend,what chances has these researches of success and acceptable to the vast majority
All these technologies need water, from where are going to get that water - Moon perhaps.
Research for research' sake is interesting, but be more down to earth.
I find most of the publications in the REW.com too theoretical. Are you waiting till your citizens die of thirst before you come down to the earth.
There are better, cheap and time tested technologies available, bat for them. they can be implemented world over in 2-3 years.

The technologies that REW.com speaks of will take another 50-60 years to mature and at that time there may not be human beings to enjoy the benefits of such research.

The Venezuela, Brazil, Gulf of Mexico has oil so does north America.But can that oil be harvested cheap and within the next 10-15 years.For one there is no proven technology.
So stop playing about but be more practical and sensible
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November 4, 2010
Energy density is quite high. The original 1996 paper indicates an enthalpy of 30 kcal/mol. Water's enthalpy of vaporization is less than 1/3 of this at 9 kcal/mol
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November 10, 2010
I have been designing, selling and installing solar equipment since 1977 and the prospect of a heat battery is viewed by me as of prime importance. One idea which comes to mind immediately is a closed loop system which allows a fluid to transfer the heat from a solar collector to the battery. Of course if the stored heat is inside a heated area, it is of no great advantage over water as the previous comment alludes to. Still the concept of integrating the battery into the design of a product which uses energy could make this very attractive. For example, this principle could be applied to the storage of hydrogen as a solid in chemical combination with say sea-salt or some other element wherein it could be released by catalytic effect to replenish a small fuel cell to power an electric car. JerryCheesman@yahoo.com
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November 11, 2010
Perhaps your catalyst is acting in a different way. Since you are looking at a heat problem, use a little more thermal dynamics and heat transfer than material science. Most mass, as far as I know, can absorb and store heat. Your molecule changes form when it absorbs energy, then releases energy when it changes back. Sounds like basic solar to me. I heat a mass, it expands, changes shape and stores energy. Once the surroundings energy level drops to a different lower state the mass releases it energy.
So perhaps the catalyst is not doing a chemical effect, perhaps it is doing a cooling effect.? What temperature is the catalyst when introduced? Or if it is acting as a catalyst, is the chemical reaction between your substances endothermic or exothermic?
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