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Why Conservatives Are Bad on Energy

By Tom Rooney, SPG Solar
August 31, 2010   |   45 Comments
It's all about the costs.

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45 Reader Comments
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August 31, 2010
great article... i've been wondering why some conservatives are so blind on renewables ,,,,now that they know, they don't hae an excuse any more.
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2 of 45
August 31, 2010
Bravo, Tom. Well said!

There have been a rash of columns recently in which pundits, mostly conservative, have done dirty energy's dirty work by attacking renewable energy as "costly" or "not ready." The Wall Street Journal editorial page is the latest to move this laughable nonsense.

I look forward to these same pundits, all of whom have long-expressed concerns about government spending, vigorously calling for ending the hundreds of billions of dollars in subsidies, tax breaks, pollution forgiveness, and research grants that coal and oil annually enjoy in the U.S. and abroad.

Those century-old energy sources are comprised of some of the most profitable corporations in the history of the world. Do they really need our tax money to get by, especially when Americans want deficits cut and renewable energy supported?

And, if government support is a sign of supposed "immaturity," at what point do the coal and oil companies lose the teenage acne and grow up?

Let's kick Massey Energy and ExxonMobil off government welfare, then have a conversation about whose technology is "costly."
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3 of 45
August 31, 2010
LOVE IT. Well said and to the point. This article needs to be read by all.
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Anonymous
August 31, 2010
Pushing solar and bashing conservatives sounds sexy; but it is the $$$ and subsidies spent by liberals on their McMansion's which is lending credibility to the various ways conservatives 'save' energy.

LEED compliance at any level will triple the cost of a new home and only supports the extravagance of Liberal owners...new SUV gets 22mpg!!...still driving all those SUV's, eh?

One hundred years ago, it was conservative Mid West farmers who led the way with wind power; not Long Island Liberals. Today it is conservative New Englanders burning renewable wood on a sustainable basis who are replacing fossil fuels.

It is also conservative buyers who realize large portions of the U.S. are unsuited for solar PV; and the need to keep a dual power system on line. Why have two power systems? Europe has found out it now needs pumped storage to fill in their grid when the wind dies down; and that's mean't new dams, generators, and transmission lines.

Conservatives are in the forefront of developing hydro; or restoring more efficient hydro once developed to power America....or if you can't build it; you can buy it from Canadian suppliers, just like those Libs in Vermont did.

Solar PV may well meet some technologist's dream of self-sufficiency; but it comes with a high price of maintenance and operational upkeep you don't have with a grid tie.

So while you liberals keep taxing and borrowing to support your subsidies, I'll just get my power from Canada at a fraction of the cost of yours and be happily cozy in my heated rooms, while you spend a fortune trying to heat/cool your huge new LEED compliant house.
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5 of 45
August 31, 2010
Actually the answer to your title is very simple: Most "Conservatives" are not conservative-- that is just another buzz word for one of the varieties of corporate greed, Ayn Rand oligarchy, racism, class confusion, and misguided or criminal economic activity that passes for understanding of how our economic system works.

Of course fossil fuel energy industries that have prospered for decades will use their power and influence to preserve their gravy train. In a system where political power is a commodity to be purchased on the open market, can you expect them to not make use of it? The choice for upstart competitors in the energy field is simple-- short of revolutionary change in the political system you'll simply have to buy your own lobbyists, Representatives, Senators, and maybe even some day a President. (You certainly haven't been very successful so far)

As for the intellectual exercise of determining the true cost of fossil fuel energy, any outline that only includes direct health costs and loss to business activity glosses over the most significant aspects of the problem. Does anyone who is not wearing blinders believe that the US would have invested two trillion dollars plus over the past decades attempting to militarily dominate an area of drifting sand, camel caravans and 120 degree heat if it didn't have giant pools of oil underneath it? Ignoring the military cost of preserving the fossil fuel economy as both "liberals" and "conservatives" do is simply perverse, and shows how little either faction is concerned with basing their ideology upon fact.
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6 of 45
August 31, 2010
This article hit the issue right on the head. I would add another reason to stop using fossil fuels. Simple supply and demand issue. As the demand goes down the price goes down. The more wind and solar energy we generate the lower the demand for coal, oil, and natural gas the lower the price for these commodities. The result will be lower energy cost for all.

This is why the fossel fuel industry is fighting so hard to kill renewables. It cuts into the bottom line and threatens to make them ass extinct as the Whalers in providing energy to the world.
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August 31, 2010
"Conservatives are bad on Renewable Energy" because we employ logic and reason to evaluate options, as opposed to emotion and hysteria. Renewable energy is too costly (by a significant margin), provides little help in reducing greenhouse gas emissions and offers little help in reducing the importation energy from hostile regions of the planet.

Renewable energy is unable to compete and must feed off the taxpayer and consumer to survive. Not surprising that the liberal elite are pushing the scam.
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8 of 45
August 31, 2010
Everyone one of these arguements are the wrong way of approaching this. It is all qualitative analysis.

Here are the facts:
Fossil Fuel Price for Electricity (including the "federal aid"): 10 cents/kWh
Solar Price for Electricity (pre federal incentives/post federal respectively): 25 cents per kWh/18 cents per kWh

The bottom line is that the technology just isn't cheap enough yet. THATS IT! There is no political agenda behind it (you are all conspiracy theorists). I am not approaching this from a political side either. I am a financial consultant for renewable energy projects (as in I want more solar so I can have a job), meaning I know the numbers, and I push for renewable, but it is difficult when it is.... (what everybody?)... that's right, "More Expensive (in unison)."

To think of a similar technology, why do we use computers as word processor when type writers to the job? Why didn't we use computers in 1985 and instead used typewriters? Because in 1985 computer technology wasn't cheap enough to allow everyone to use it as a word processor, but now that we have made it cheap enough, we do. The same will happen with solar. Just be patient!!!!
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9 of 45
August 31, 2010
Very interesting the WSJ would have a pro-fossil fuel bias, given that it is owned by Rupert Murdoch, who is very conservative, and a Saudi prince. No chance of any bias there!
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Anonymous
August 31, 2010
Thank you, "Finance Green" for a rational, non-political analysis.

The comments here are quite rabid and one commentator even worked in "racism" in his rabid argument against "conservatives." Shameless.

One addition to the considerations: Look at Spain's economy. They decided to be "green, green, green" and put tons of money in "renewable energy" to establish a new order of energy in their nation. The result was the number of jobs lost was more than the number created in "renewables." Look at their economy now. Going down and quickly.

Please read "Finance Green" again.

By the way, no energy is "renewable." Try to grab the wind and use it again. Try to take the sunlight from yesterday and use it today. Energy can be "recurring," "continuing" or "on-going" but not renewable -- it is a law of science that energy, once used, dissipates itself in creating whatever effect it was used for. Maybe someone needs to create a new word for solar, wind, etc.
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Anonymous
September 1, 2010
The author writes: "Neither report factored in Global Warming or the cost of sending our best and bravest into harm's way to protect our energy supply lines.

Whatever that costs, you know it starts with a T."

This is a hackneyed nonsense. US military actions tend to be based against terrorists and other extremest factions and even if none of these had occurred we would still need a strong military to deter opportunistic enemies. Energy policy has nearly no impact on military actions. There are, for instance, no significant energy resources in Korea (where we still maintain a large force), Bosnia (where we recently were engaged in a significant military action) or in Afghanistan. Furthermore most of our energy reserves (nuclear, natural gas, and coal) are domestic; only oil, which isn't a direct competitor to solar power, is something we depend on Foreign markets for, and oil is easily purchased on the open market--it does not require military action to acquire.
Steven
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Anonymous
September 1, 2010
The author also writes: "Just a few weeks ago, the International Energy Agency said worldwide, fossil fuels receive $550 billion in subsidies a year -- 12 times what alternatives such as wind and solar get."

This is not only hackneyed but disingenuous. Surely the author understands that this number reflects consumption subsidies by developing nations--mainly oil producers--to allow their domestic populations to purchase energy at below market rates. The US and the EU don't spend anything for these types of subsidies. Furthermore, if this money was not spent, not a penny of the savings would go toward solar energy. If fact, consumption subsidies serve to INCREASE world consumption of fossil fuels thus making the market price for fossil fuels in the developed world MORE expensive, which makes it EASIER for renewables to compete. This is quite different from the much much smaller subsidies for fossil fuels by developed countries that serve to slightly lower apparent fossil fuel costs. If all of these subsidies disappeared overnight the market share for renewables would barely budge. Renewables are currently limited by two major factors: high price and intermittency.
Steven
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September 1, 2010
Very good article sir. It is about time someone tells it like it is. Up here in Canada I have to listen to a lot of journalists mostly on the right say nothing about negative about Renewable yet promote the Tar Sands like if it is something wonderfull. Keep up the Good work.

Forza Fiorentina
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14 of 45
September 1, 2010
Two comments:
- this was a decent article. I've long wondered why the self-proclaimed "conservatives" were on the opposite side of what should really be a core cause for them
- the comments by "crazyhorse", while blunt, really hit the nail on the head explaining the disfunction in not just the energy sector but the total breakdown American politics and society. The true conservatives who typically anchor society and insist on common sense, seem to have been clubbed, gagged and replaced by impostors
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September 1, 2010
My question does not include externalities of health concerns or climate change. Just what are these major subsidies for fossil fuels in the U.S.? Can anyone provide a highly reputable source quantifying these U.S. subsidies? Can anyone provide data in a key context of cents per gallon or cents per kWh? Sorry -- I just don't see fossil fuel subsidies that distort the free marketplace.
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16 of 45
September 1, 2010
Good debate on topic for sure.

No discussion of who is going to benefit from solar adoption. Green jobs, consumers, business owners? When utilities are added to this list the industry will start to really grow. Let's not ignore the owners of the infrastructure and current generation assets.

The numbers cited by post from finance green needs a source to determine their validity and are not good generalizations for all of the USA. They are different $/kWh than many we see. When looking at costs of generation make sure we are looking at costs for new generation sources not the costs of a 40 year old coal plant that will retire soon. The topic of cost/kWh generation is also very regional and specific to generation sources so a statement that is correct in California does not hold in Georgia. Breaking this down into an easy sound byte does not make smart decision making easier.
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September 1, 2010
Excellent article on a topic which needs a lot more discussion and exposure in this country as we continue to see all the increasing signs of the real costs of fossil fuels.

Extreme deep water drilling, Canadian Tar Sands, Barnett and Marcellus Shale methane gas plays all point to the simple fact that finding and extracting fossil fuels is becoming increasingly risky and expensive as the industry moves from conventional to non-conventional fossil fuel extraction.

Ignored in this issue is the cost of American military forces in the Middle East now dug in for the long term job of protecting vital oil and gas supplies and pipeline networks.

Trust that China is not standing by idle mired in political zero sum games such as found in the US. Instead China is going around the world securing future oil and gas supplies and building world class solar and wind industries.

We know what to expect going forward. As the reality that fossil fuels in fact cost more than renewables, expect the "free market" crowd of conservatives to shout even louder that solar and wind cost more than oil, gas and coal.

Its the way the game gets played in the US.
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September 1, 2010
The Merchants of Doubt are as defensive as ever. Why they need to defend fossil fuels can only be explained by the probability that they profit from fossil fuels or work in the industry. The arguments against Renewable Energy Phase In and in support of fossil fuels has played out many times before in history. The same arguments were made to support slavery aginst those who wanted to end it or phase it out in the US and Europe. It is all about profit, greed, lack of compassion for the millions of victims and a need to maintain the staus quo at all costs. When will humanity learn that it is better to build, restore, work together and move forward by respecting our resources and holding them sacred.
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September 1, 2010
There are so many problems with this propaganda that it is hard to know where to start, but we should start nonetheless. So, for starters, let's consider the assertion that the area of Germany is approximately 1/3 the area of the USA. Germany, 360,000 square kilometers. USA, 9,800,000 square kilometers. Yet another example of funny math in the ongoing effort to justify the imposition of government force to manipulate the markets according for political gain. If private individuals want to waste their money on over-priced alternative energy, they should have the right to do so. On the other hand, if I want to save money by purchasing cheap and reliable coal-fired power - thereby freeing money for useful work such as healthcare, education, feeding the hungry, etc. - then I should have the right to do so.
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September 1, 2010
"Solar is not a cause, it is a business with real benefits for its customers."

"Now we come to "immature." Again, the meaning is fuzzy. But in Germany, a country 1/3 our size in area and population, they have more solar than the United States. This year, Germans will build enough solar to equal the output of three nuclear power plants."

"Obama's 'Green' energy program an epic failure in Spain

Each "green job" comes at the expense of 2.2 traditional jobs."

"Only two years ago, Spanish solar energy companies feasting on generous government subsidies expanded at a feverish pace, investing €18 billion (then worth roughly $28 billion) to blanket rooftops and fields with photovoltaic panels. They briefly turned the country into the top solar market in the world.

Then came a monumental case of sunburn. The market crashed under a wave of subsidy cuts, fears of possible forced tariff paybacks and allegations of fraud involving energy produced at night being sold as solar power to collect super-premium prices. "

Large-scale solar generation of electricity may not work?
http://home.comcast.net/~bpayne37/eprishumard/eprishumard.htm#specker

Let's get some expert opinion.
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21 of 45
September 1, 2010
Right-Left, Conservative-Liberal. Say what you want, quietly behind the scenes renewable projects are being financed and constructed against many odds. New and needed policy is leveling the playing field. While fossil fuels will always play a part, renewables are the future and here to stay, grow and some day surpass.
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Anonymous
September 1, 2010
The author is a liberal shill; or else likes pasting labels on people's heads without examining carefully their political philosophy or ignoring it when it doesn't 'fit' their bias.

George & Laura Bush designed and built what could best be described as a precursor to a LEED compliant ranch. They ride horses for recreation.

Al Gore builds and lives in mansions; and flys in emission spewing jet planes to environmental conferences.

So based on lifestyle; who is the conservative and who is the liberal?

And which one is worthy of emulating?
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23 of 45
September 1, 2010
Distill this article down to one sentence and it becomes "Conservatives are bad because they tend to oppose handouts of taxpayer dollars to companies like mine".
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24 of 45
September 1, 2010
Seems the comments are equally split with those of us supporting the article and the author and those in opposition to it. A generality is those in favor are mostly other centered with their comments and the opposition usually speaks about how it effects them. There in lies the problem of why there will always be those opposing change on personal grounds and those favoring change for the good of mankind/womankind or the World. That is the way it always was and the way it will always be. Sad that we cannot find common ground.

Many of the we folks are not advocating phasing fossil fuels out and Renewable Energy options in over the next few years. That seems to be the oppositions major concern. We want an orderly, planned transition that most can agree on. It will take years but without a plan, we are doomed to developing a plan when it is too late.
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JDM
September 1, 2010
Great article that is right on target. I have already put it to good use.
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September 1, 2010
Maybe not. Conservatives aren't bad. They are just mostly useless because, by definition, they support the past as the way to the future and say that change is bad. They want to conserve the past. Their vested interests speak for themselves. Conservatives are mainly fearful that change is threatening, yet all change brings good and enables the mind to remain flexible and decerning of what is real. It is certainly true that some ill concieved change is not helpful, and that is because some minds have not the understanding to determine what is in their best interests or have been hogwashed by political giberish, games, and skewed interests. If our minds stay cut off from changes long enuff they become unable to see what is real, and accept that fear is a good thing for protecting what they believe is their salvation. Then what follows is the ego mantra of projecting that fear onto other people and situations in the belief that the way to get rid of fear is to blame others for what they, themselves have made.
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September 1, 2010
You know you have written a good article when you have multiple trolls nit picking their vacuous arguments. I think this article underlines the need to place blame on old world energy generation for the ill health and environmental effects. We need to start thinking of our children and stop burning/extracting fossil fuels. In terms of subsidies, Bloomberg reports that in the US FF subsidies ate 2 TIMES those of RE. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a2ygdsSj.KQI

Thank you for your well reasoned article.
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September 1, 2010
You know you have written a good article when you have multiple trolls nit picking their vacuous arguments. I think this article underlines the need to place blame on old world energy generation for the ill health and environmental effects. We need to start thinking of our children and stop burning/extracting fossil fuels. In terms of subsidies, Bloomberg reports that in the US FF subsidies ate 2 TIMES those of RE. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a2ygdsSj.KQI

Thank you for your well reasoned article.
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September 1, 2010
All the back-and-forth about the merits of the conservative worldview miss the consistency challenge to free-market, small-government conservatives: Where is your outrage at the taxpayer money being thrown at highly profitable, dirty energy companies - $557B worldwide, according to the International Energy Administration. They total almost $100B here in the U.S. alone, according to federal sources. These are discoverable with a simple Google search, so saying, "sorry, I don't see subsidies" only means you haven't looked.

I can see why small-government purists want to oppose policies that support the growth of new energy industries. That's at least consistent. I think it's wrong for America, and our international competitors think its great that we're doing a fraction of what they are in spurring clean energy industries.

But where is your opposition to the atrocious waste of OUR money in the largess the fossil fuel industry players get -- and fight to keep? I might have missed it, but I haven't seen a single conservative commenter here address this point since I raised it in the second comment.

The bottom line is that these energy sources have been around for 150+ years, and they are being bankrolled by government to the tune of several hundred billion dollars a year. Does Rex Tillerson or Don Blankenship seriously need our money to get by? if so, how cost-effective does that make them?

More importantly, can you or anyone seriously talk about "costs" without factoring in the costs TO US as taxpayers from subsidies, loopholes, etc.

If we kick these large, highly profitable corporations completely off government welfare, then we could have a straight-up conversation about which energy sources are "costly" or not.

I suspect a lot of dirty energy defenders would not like the welfare-free costs of dirty energy.
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30 of 45
September 1, 2010
The true cost of fossil fuels is the bottom line and one that the fossil fuel industries fight with vast amounts of money to assure they are not assessed health, environmental, national security costs and their generous subsidies that corrupted legislators make sure they keep getting. Until those costs are fairly and accurately assessed, they will always have an advantage over clean, sustainable, continuously more efficient and more cost effective Renewable Energy options like On and Off Shore Wind Farms, residential, commercial and municipal PV Solar Systems, Residential and Commercial Geothermal Systems, LEED Buildings, Energy Conservation, Mass Transit options, non food based bio-fuels and advanced batteries for electric cars.
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31 of 45
September 1, 2010
Interesting that the Author represents a solar company so his comments tend to be "if you are not in solar, you are stupid and a conservative". I am a conservative, both fiscal and for earth resources. My company is trying to install a biomass electrical generating system but are held back by the "liberals" of the save our forest mentality. So, Mr. Rooney, I am very proud to be a conservative and one day will be able to overcome the "liberals" who do not want distributed power systems that utilize biomass that was once "green". I have not been able to make a solar investment since I can not cost justify a system here in South Texas. Perhaps if I had all the tax freebies of California I could do so, but for now it is other than solar.
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Anonymous
September 1, 2010
Stunning.
One obviously left-wing individual says that "all change is good."

Does that include the change Adolph Hitler brought to the world when he started World War II -- which killed about 50,000,000 people.

If they could those deceased folks probably would disagree with the statement that"all change is good."
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September 1, 2010
Thanks Tom

That was a great article. The economic argument is the strongest one because that is something both sides of politics understand
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September 2, 2010
Why does this author find it necessary to divide America into two false camps: Conservatives against solar power, and liberals for solar power? Sciolistic prejudice? I am a "conservative" that makes a good living selling solar power. And I know plenty of other "conservatives" happily working in the solar industry, promoting renewables on a daily basis. This article is unnecessarily (and unrealistically) polarizing.
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September 2, 2010
That's not at all what he did. He basically asked why "conservatives" are generally AWOL or in opposition to renewables and rabidly supporting fossil fuels, when in fact renewables are the direction that fits most naturally with what should be conservative principles.

That in turn exposes how far off the reservation today's "conservatives" are.

I can see how that would be an ahem, incovenient truth, for many. But you can't blame the author for pointing it out. Nor does his position in the solar industry negate the point.

At some point we need to absorb messages and quit trying to blame or shoot the messenger.
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m
September 2, 2010
Renewable are renewable. The world will know the power of the sun when the Jawaharlal Nehru National Solar Mission of India is performed. Oh! World! Don't wait and see. The minutes late by a nation will give boost to Indians.Thank you.
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September 2, 2010
Hi:

Comment #30 makes an excellent point. A very good recent example of the is the clean air and water exemption that was "covertly" placed into the 2005 energy bill for the sole benefit of profit for the NG industry. By excusing them from that liability, accountability, it reduces their costs. So down the road pro NG people can say, gee, look how much cheaper NG is than XYZ renewable.... Just one tiny example...

.....Bill
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September 2, 2010
Good article. Crazyhorse and Finance Green have great comments. Solar Power is far too expensive currently to realistically replace fossil fuel power for electrical generation. I think we need to be asking why is solar power so expensive? We were told that as we increased our use, costs would drop, but this has not happened. Are our subsidies keeping SV prices high? Would Solar producing electricity in some other way, such as Sterling Engine via parabola make better cost sense?

I find it funny that commenter George-Burnet says he prefers to purchase his electricity made from coal so he can spend his money on other altruistic ventures. Sorry George, but unless you own the power company, you do not have a choice. It is a monopoly that sells to you and you must buy from them at whatever price they dictate they must have to support their existence. What wasn't mentioned was decentralized power production. See http://www.nogridusa.org.

Conservative or Liberal, when the rubber hits the road it will be price that moves the direction of energy production. Today, Nuclear & Solar are out of the competition as far as electricity production is concerned. Hydro, Natural Gas, Coal, geothermal and biomass are the only fuels that can compete against each other. Throw in laws regarding air quality and pollution and rip away the subsidies and we may have a real look at something.
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September 2, 2010
The author of this article did make some false statements. Example: "Just ask anyone who installed their solar systems five years ago. Today, many of their systems are paid off and they are getting free energy." This statement is misleading. A five year pay back on a PV system would be nearly impossible to do. A solar hot water system would be possible get a 5 year payback in some instances. Four or more people living in the house to get high demand out of the solar system. The home owners pay a higher cost for their energy than the national average, and the home gets over 8 sun hours a day. I calculated the pay back on a PV solar tracking system at my residence at about 16 years. This is with an elevated rate of 22.5 cents per Kilo watt hour. The standard electrical rate is 10.5 cents per Kilo watt hour. This would effectively increase the time to recover my cost of investment to over 32 years. System cost before government incentives was $14,000. Energy production per year is 2500 KWH per year. A government incentive was $4,000.

Conservatives tend to be more logical, while liberals tend to be more emotional. Example purchasing a corvette is emotional driven purchase. Purchasing a Ford Focus on the other hand is based more on logic, than emotion.
Liberals think that someone else should pay for the renewable energy, because they are unwilling to pay for the true cost themselves. So the rest of us do through higher taxes.

The example of this is California with its 50% tax credit then a 30% federal tax credit. This has the government paying 65% of the system cost. Even with these steep incentives less than 5% of the homes in California have solar systems installed on them.
When it comes to evaluating the cost of returning the cost of a system it becomes guess work. This is because of the long term payback period of a PV system makes it hard to estimate how long it will take. The reason for this is the cost of energy 10 or more years from now would be unknown.
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September 3, 2010
I just want add that the prices for solar PV are going down. This is reducing the time it takes to recover the cost PV system. But even with these reduced prices it still takes over 10 years for most customers to recover their cost of system installation. Most consumers are interested in will it save them money. Then there are parts that go into solar system. How long will these parts last? Solar panels will last about 30 years or more. The power inverter should last 15 years or more. Ventilated units that are housed outdoors life span would be shorter, because electronic parts have some exposure to the elements. These are important questions to ask because repairs and parts replacement do add to system operating cost.
The solar panels themselves do age. So do expect 10 to 20% drop in energy output. The good news is this takes about 20 years for this to happen. So can the solar panels last 50 years or more. The answer to this is "Yes they can." But one the things that speed up the aging process is heat. So if your panels are in Texas they will age faster. So your solar panels last 35 years instead of 45 years.

The important thing is to do the math before you pull out your check book.
To help you with this please contact a NABCEP certified installer.
So the question is which energy source will be the Ford Focus, or the Corvette 10 years from now?
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September 4, 2010
re: info on US subsidies for fossil fuel
http://cleantech.com/news/node/554
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Anonymous
September 7, 2010
Another quintessential leftist political propaganda...I'm an independent who lives in California and I drive a Prius and I still think the author's goal not to report or to supply useful information.. Why else would you start with an attack on conservatives?? To imply that the "cost" sending Americas bravest to harm's way and the "cost" of Global warming is has even equates to conservatives being bad at anything is laughable and says a lot about the authors knowledge and motives.

It seems a lot of people on this green bandwagon are willing to lie and report bogus claims just to push their agenda. I am all for for getting things done in the best cleanest way possible...but do not lie, cheat or steal in order to get that done. Stick to the facts.. The himalayas aren't melting as fast as they said, that was a lie....
Antarctic Sea Ice for November 2009 Higher Than 1979,
More people/animals die from being too cold than too hot...
UN world renowned scientist caught lying to keep the global warming movement going. Look up the facts, climategate,
the scientists we have been putting our faith in have been lying to us and the "reporters" are perpetuating the lies. This should be a debate based on raw data which is now destroyed by the scientist who has been cooking the books all along.
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Anonymous
September 12, 2010
There are some really very silly statements made above. Be good to see logic applied better than the below two examples.

Comment 8 of 43: I guess we decided not to use typewriters because computers bring far more benefits for their cost, considering the two technologies as similar is a very weak argument to say the least. One simple and common sense consideration shows this: the internet.

Comment 10 of 43: "Try to take the sunlight from yesterday and use it today." Fossil fuels are created from plant biomass formed millions of years ago and compressed under heat under the surface of the earth. Plants need sunlight to grow. Stored sunlight in the form of fossil fuels is excatly what is powering the world for the past 150 years or thereabouts.

Which of the following statements is true? (1) Gravity never lets you down. (2) Gravity always lets you down.
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October 8, 2010
Actually, "anonymous" comment 44, you further prove my analogy correct. Solar will eventually outweigh the benefit/cost ratio of fossil fuels, which it currently does in all areas with the exception of economical feasibility. Which is the exact same situation as computers in the 70's and 80's.
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October 15, 2010
additionally, the internet has been around since the 40's... computer technology (and internet technology) was too expensive for the average person then, just how solar is now.

When materials for solar panels lower in cost we will use it. Anyone who wants to build it now, let me see you wallet...
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