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Should CSP Mirrors Be Glass or Metal?

By Ucilia Wang, Contributor
August 11, 2010   |   10 Comments

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Anonymous
August 11, 2010
Why is it that parabolic trough collectors are being used merely for production of domestic hot water (as in the Englewood prison example)? The impression one gets from this article is that the mirrors are expensive so I would think that more traditional solar hot water systems would be more cost efficient for that application. Are the metal mirrors so much cheaper that these systems are really competitive even for hot water production?

Does anyone know what fraction of the total cost the mirrors constitute for a solar thermal plant generating electricity?
Steven
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August 12, 2010
A trough system makes sense in an area like Colorado where there is abundant direct sun light all year long. In the most commercial or industrial applications, in the South Western United States, a parabolic trough will beat a flat plate or evacuated tube collector. For example: a trough system is 1-1/2 times as efficient as a flat plate at an operating temperature of 40 degrees C ; and 4 times as efficient at 80 degrees C. Even if the trough system has an equivalent cost as a flat plate system, one can see the benefit of the trough collector.
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Anonymous
August 13, 2010
Abengoa Solar just announced they will use Rio Glass Solar for the mirrors on their Solana project in Gila Bend, Arizona.
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August 13, 2010
What proportion of the cost is the silver in silver based films?

Or how many ounces of silver are used per square foot?
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August 13, 2010
Metal or Glass? Here is the answer. Glass is a slow moving liquid. Metal is not. Yes over time glass will not hold its optical properties because it is moving very slowly. Metal cost less and if for some reason heavy winds or flying sand storms happen I would rather pay to polish metal than to replace glass. Once a sand storm happens and the glass is reflective properties are gone you need to replace the glass. With metal you do not have to replace just repolish.
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August 13, 2010
The Abengoa-IST PT-1 trough is less expensive to install in large solar hot water systems for temperatures up to 200F than non-tracking collectors, and it will produce more useful energy for the same aperture area at collection efficiencies above 50%.

The early 3M reflective film product was used with the SunMaster evacuated tube collector starting in 1978. We used 11,000 sq.ft. of these collectors for the Wagner College solar absorption HVAC project in New York City, which was operational from 1980 through 1986. We found that the 3M reflective film degraded to such an extent that collector performance dropped significantly leading to an early shutdown of the system. I hope that 3M and other vendors have discovered a way to extend the life of reflective film to at least 20 years.
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Anonymous
August 14, 2010
Glass mirror is 10% to 15% of system cost for wet steam ~ $12/m^2
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August 17, 2010
I think years of research are still needed before metal can favorably replace glass in terms of reflective qualities. Meanwhile just to announce to the renewable energy community that a fueless power generator revolution is going on in Nigeria. It involves the use of a permanent magnet dc motor powered by a battery to run an ac alternator while part of the ac alternator's output is reconverted to dc and fed back to recharge the battery concurrently and part supplies the user's appliances. If it's confirmed to be durable and sustainable, it will be the holy Grail of renewable energy.
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August 21, 2010
why arent concave mirrors used when focused they can reach tempretures of 3000 degrees centigrade i am sure this is enough to drive a few steam turbines
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August 27, 2010
I agree that having these kinds of glass systems
will make your home more environmentally friendly. In addition, this kind of home improvement will save you energy costs in the long run. If you do this kind of home improvement project, McGraw Hill's Sweet directory is a really great place to start because their listing the products and manufacturers currently available is invaluable. In addition, the CAD details that you can download from their site are so helpful. I use them every time I plan out a home improvement project. While I do work for them, I have used their directory for years, and can honestly say that they offer the most useful directory of construction products I have seen.
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About: Ucilia Wang is a California-based freelance journalist who writes about renewable energy. She previously was the associate editor at Greentech Media and a staff... more »

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