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The Transition from Standard PV to AC Modules

By Miles C. Russell, GreenRay Solar
February 15, 2010   |   10 Comments

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1 of 10
February 16, 2010
I couldn't agree more that AC PV, with panel integrated microinverters, is a game changer in driving price/performance down to the average homeowner. Simplicity of installation without a plethora of junction/combiner boxes, reduced ampacity at the roof and the efficiency gain of MPPT at the panel level, and elimination of DC/AC conversion losses promises labor savings of at least 20%. Rapid adoption and integration into a wide variety of approved modules will drive the cost of Enphase and competitive AC products down to parity of central inverters and will explode the "DIY" solar install market.
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2 of 10
February 16, 2010
I agree with most of what the author stated regarding micro-inverters, however, working for a distributor in Canada where extreme weather conditions are the norm (snow, wind, ice, rapid thawing and freezing periods, ups and downs in humidity level, etc), I question the reliability of a micro-inverter installed outdoors our climate over a 20 year period. All electronic devices will fail at some point, and those exposed to harsher environments will do so sooner than others.

One can say that hundreds of thousands of string inverters have been installed world-wide since that first system in Texas in '79, thus it is a proven technology in the field. One cannot say the same about micro-inverters, so for this commentator, time will tell whether micro-inverters come out on top over string inverters in both reliability and economics.
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3 of 10
February 16, 2010
Would like to know names of companies that are producing these type of panels
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4 of 10
February 16, 2010
Try enphaseenergy.com
All the above comments and concerns are worth noting. The IP addressing of each module is very helpful for troubleshooting/system monitoring. Another attribute of the microinverter is the technology's ability to get around the shading problem. Be sure to keep an eye on your state's (like New Jersey) rules concerning shading and how they may impact your rebate.
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5 of 10
February 17, 2010
I think AC modules will become the dominate technology in residential and small commercial. But people seem to constantly overlook the problems in scaling up with this technology.

You gain by removing the DC side wiring but no one addresses the problems in AC combining, particularly in light of the NEC requirements that end up making any AC combining panels double oversize with the resulting increase in cost.

Yes the AC side will be lower voltage but lower voltage will result in an increase in current as the systems scale. This increase in current will result in having to use larger conductors and equipment. This is not a problem on smaller systems but will be on larger systems.

Reliability is also a factor because even if the micro-inverters/AC modules are highly reliable there could be thousands of them in a large PV system. That will mean a steady stream of failures that have to be serviced, and servicing could be difficult. A micro-inverter with a 25 year lifespan may still have a MTBF that is greater than the PV module so they will fail more often. PV modules are pretty simple devices so it will be hard to match their reliability in a complex device like an inverter.

I think AC modules and micro-inverters are great for some applications but let's not get so caught up in the excitement that we ignore the technical challenges that this new technology presents. Let's address those challenges from the start.
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6 of 10
February 17, 2010
I simply hate the annual fees that micro inverter firms charge to track inverter and module performance.

A 10 kW system of 200 watt modules would have 50 modules and 50 micro inverters.

Assuming an annual monitoring fee of $2/inverter, that is $100 per year or $4000 over the system's 40 year life.

Sorry, I am not going for it.
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7 of 10
Anonymous
February 17, 2010
Correct me if I'm wrong: Fat Spaniel (10 KW DC system monitoring) = $50/yr. > 22 Enphase 380 inverters @ $2 per module for monitoring = $44/yr. Enphase 380 essentialy is two 190 inverters in one housing and can accomodate up to a 230 W module. Still not going for it Niels? Furthermore you can host the Enphase EMU locally on your own browser without paying the $2 per mod/yr. fee. If you need to log this data I'm sure you could find a savey teenager to write the code to get that data into a spreadsheet. Please do your diligence before panning a product!!
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8 of 10
February 18, 2010
Hi Miles, this is Philip Leen, I was with Schott Solar, Inc, out in Sacramento. I wasalways impressed with the work that the Ascension Group had done, and am really glad to see that you are still carrying the torch for mini inverters, It has been a long haul, but looks like you were quite right, too bad Schott did not promote the research. We are using them these days as much as we can, and are really iimpressed. I am with a company doing both PV and Thermal, which is Go Solar Coop. I feel more comfortable workng with this type of group. as we all have a say in whats happening,
Good luck to you, and keep up the good work.
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Anonymous
February 19, 2010
What happens in areas with high lightning concentration or AC grid surges?
I've seen a system with multiple string inverters where all 10 inverters went down and had to be serviced.
The manufacturer said the inverters were tested to withstand surges but sometimes nearby lightning will take them out.
Oh, and by the way, the damage was an act of god so it wasn't covered under warranty.
I would have hated to to have had micro inverters in that system and would not have wanted to be the one to have to pull all the PV modules to replace them.
I shudder thinking about it.
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10 of 10
September 2, 2010
I have one word for you: EXELTECH They have already developed and are in production of a true PV AC Module with no subscription fees for the monitoring.
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