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Sen. Sanders Introduces 10 Million Solar Home Initiative

February 9, 2010   |   13 Comments

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Sanders said a recent report shows that solar power could help make every state more energy independent if solar units were installed on available rooftop space, because every state can meet 10 percent or more of its electricity needs just through rooftop solar.
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Anonymous
February 9, 2010
Didn't Jimmy Carter nearly kill the Solar Hot Water industry with the kindness of a 40% tax credit which generated fly-by-night operators and warped the perception of a reasonable solar installation cost? (Still high, like every job is custom.)

Enough Special Carrots, those poor excuses for governing which warp the market!

A Universal Stick would accomplish the 10 million Solar Roof goal:

Restrict federal mortgage assistance (HUD, FHA, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, VA, et al) to ONLY Passive Solar Houses with over 50% Solar Hot Water.

Instant economy of scale; instant falling installation cost, as regular plumbers and roofers get into the act. (Forget about electricity production, it's politically impossible.) Instant education of building code inspectors, tradesmen's biggest fear.

Senator Sanders, instead of rebates, why not establish a well-funded legal defense fund for Local Governments which want strengthen their building codes/inspection process to strengthen American energy independence? The economic resources of large developers exceed that of the local governments which regulate them--developers can simply threaten to bankrupt localities with legal costs whenever a locality wants to change the course of the gravy train.
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Anonymous
February 10, 2010
Sounds like a big step in the right direction to me!
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February 10, 2010
The concern with fly-by-night business practices is largely unfounded. In order to get a grant or rebate for a PV system from the federal government one must.

A. Have a plan for the property that was developed and stamped by a registered professional engineer licensed by the sec of state.
B. Have a distributed generation agreement with the properties electric utility
C. Have the system permitted by the AHJ, meaning installed by a licensed contractor.

The National Electric Code covers solar PV installation since 2005.

Peace

If you get ripped off by a fly-by-night outfit it is your own fault.
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February 10, 2010
I do not fear the market being "warped" - rather, my concern is for resolving the problem of up-front costs which are the biggest barrier to homeowners adding solar. While rebates are helpful, a nationwide PACE/AB 811 style program that would remove the up-front cost is the single biggest thing that the federal government could do to make solar more universally affordable.
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February 10, 2010
PACE can work but we should be studying the Feed In Tariff systems of Europe, particularly Germany. The FIT leverages capital and becomes a safe bond structure. Bond holders cover initial cost of installation and collect cost plus profit of 6 to 8%. The program is reviewed regularly as costs fall to parity with fossil fuels. The higher initial costs of renewables are spread among all rate payers with small initial system benefit charges which rise over time as the market drives renewables to massive scale, creating jobs and eliminating similar costs for new fossil or nuclear power plants. FITs have the transparency and consistency the bond market needs to invest on a large scale.
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February 11, 2010
Rather than rebates, a program of low interest loans that spread the system's cost over several years (and would be paid off by part of the energy cost savings) would make the program money go a lot farther and faster.

BTW my parents got one of the solar water heaters with the Carter rebate, and it paid for itself many times over in the 30 years they had that house. AFAIK it is still on the roof heating water for the new residents.
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February 11, 2010
There has been talk in recent legislatures of incorporating a regional or "community" loan, modified and supported by local government, into a homeowner's property tax. This way the costs are spread out over the life of the home instead of being up-front. And the loan, now incorporated into the property tax, would continue should the property change hands.
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February 11, 2010
The federal money is nice but I don't think its the deciding factor for a homeowner to put something on the roof. Its more an attitude and mindset. People still throw plastic bottles in the trash when ther is a recycle bin right next to the trash can. Like the other fellow's parents, I used the Carter rebate 30 years ago for solar hot water and its still on the job today. I also got tax credits to help with PV batteries but its still too expensive to have the average Joe beating a path to the renewable energy door.
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February 16, 2010
To get a perspective of an additional 10 million homes, does any know how many homes have PV on the roof today?
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February 16, 2010
I've seen estimates of 350,000 residential solar installs throughout the country - combined thermal and PV - but I doubt anyone has an accurate count over the past 20 years. 65% are in California, but NJ, AZ and NM are taking off. Not sure how many are on remote cabins versus grid-tied production systems.
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February 16, 2010
Perhaps to receive federal funds, each solar system should have a Fat Spaniel-type monitor of system output broadcasting on the web (advertising) with data reporting to NREL...
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March 3, 2010
I was skeptical about the economy of installing solar PV. I just wanted to learn about the technologies and "pick the reps brains" for future use. I was amazed at how much sense it made to get the installtion done ASAP! I really looking forward to having my project completed within the next month.
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dpk
March 23, 2010
I agree with Ann Malone about the importance of monitoring -- solar thermal systems have historically failed at alarming rates, c. 50% after 10 years for systems built in the 1990's, due to simple maintenance issues never being noticed as there was no easy way of noticing the system had stopped functioning.
That said - 10 million PV systems and 200,000 hot water systems is crazy. Solar hot water is vastly more cost-effective -- the proportions should be reversed.
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