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The Emerging US-China Strategic Alliance on Clean Energy

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Renewable energy investments in the U.S. by the Chinese are but one side of the coin; on the other side are the enormous opportunities for American companies to participate as the Chinese spend some $2 trillion over the next 20 years to fundamentally restructure the way they produce and consume energy.
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November 18, 2009
Are the solar and wind industries trying to play China against the US to gain preferential treatment in the US? Yesterday, an article in USA Today entitled "China pushes solar, wind power development" said there is concern "that China, not the US, will emerge as the hub of the new industries, leaving the U.S. as dependent on foreign nations for solar panels, wind turbines and other green-energy equipment and technology as it is on the Mideast for oil." But my contact in China claims they have halted further investments into solar and wind.
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Anonymous
November 18, 2009
In Massachusetts Gov Partrick invested over 100 million in Evergreen Solar . The company spent 50 million on executive pay and is moving 50 million dollars worth of parts paid for by Massachusetts taxpayers to China .This is part of a long list of failures by Gov Patrick in the renewable energy field . Keyword Evergreen Ft Devans Gov Patrick or Gov Patrick Failures.

The most recent is Gov Patrick is holding stimulus funds and renewable energy funds to strong arm state representatives into voting for the Wind Energy Siting Reform Act .

This is how the commercial land based wind turbine scam works in Massachusetts today;

A . Your town wants a commercial wind turbine so the Massachusetts Technology Collaborative tells your town which company to hire for a meteorological tower wind test then if this fails the MTC gives you a company that will conduct a Sodar test which will get you the results you need .These tests are all paid for from the renewable energy tax from residential electric bills .The word extrapolation comes into play in the wind results .The problem is that the MTC posts all the studies for the last few years on the Internet . If you review the studies done for each town you will see the conflicts in the reports between towns.

B. The residents of Massachusetts caught the difference in the studies and confronted the studies and the the towns in court. The governor of Massachusetts upset that his commercial wind turbine projects have slowed to a crawl has the proposed the Massachusetts Wind Energy Siting Reform Act to take residential property rights!

C. Renewable Energy Magazine should write a story on the politics involved in Massachusetts with the political hacks stealing renewable energy funds or take someone like myself to court to bring to light what's going on in Massachusetts !
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3 of 11
November 20, 2009
China will burn up and blow away RE targets in solar and wind.

While this glitzy U.S. China thing is on front pages, I would be looking under the radar for other more hungry joint ventures with China, i.e, Japan, Brazil, Russia, and India (JBRI).

Entrepreneurial obstacles in Europe, the U.S., and Japan (EUJ) give countries with more cheetah-like economies an advantage in reverse-engineering and applied engineering.

The cheetahs are getting help from repenting former centurions, who are old enough to not care so much if they get bumped off. More of the same are behind them. It can be exhilarating to blow whistles, even though it's dangerous (Paul, Grayson).

I don't see anything that will be done in secret in Denmark to change this.

Former colonial powers are protecting grandfathers at the expense of new ways, and this is hurting their populations.

Is the U.S. the only source of proven technologies when Toyota has so much experience with hybrids? Just contemplate the installed base for a few minutes.

Already the intellectual-property ways of protecting monopolies are breaking down as Thailand, Ecador, and Brazil (TEB) break patents on behalf of their peoples.

It's not only energy where efficiency can gain with a country whose religion is pure science mixed with a bit of Zen, Taoism, and Paul Hawken's sort of Gaia outlook, with a bit of Confucianism for good measure.

China has experience with Masanobu Fukuoka, who is my prototype of Yoda, only a little grouchier, from Star Wars. Wait until the Chinese start touring Bucks County and other Amish locations, not to mention Nimbin in Australia.

It's too bad the U.S. has not been able to take the advice of its own avatars, except in small patches which the oilagarchy (Brock Dolman, Bioneers) tries to mess with.

Sometimes the avatars just go offshore (Demming). Sometimes they are nuts enough to stay (B. Fuller).
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4 of 11
November 20, 2009
Does any one know of any universities offering a RE masters program in English?
I am more interested in non-US but US would be good too.
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5 of 11
November 20, 2009
It seems that no schools offer a PhD in RE; why not? How does one end up doing research in RE? Through the private sector? Or do you have to do research in a related field like some field of physics or materials science?
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November 23, 2009
There is a master of science program for "Renewable Energy in Central & Eastern Europe" offered by the University of Technology, Vienna, Austria. Right now, I'm participating in it, it's a great new experience for me, and the course is really recommendable.
http://newenergy.tuwien.ac.at/english/overview/
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Anonymous
November 24, 2009
Are the authors of this dribble 12 years old?

The initiative to work with China began in 1972 when Richard Nixon was President and George Bush was about to become the first US Ambassador to China since the Mao Revolution. For good and for bad history did not start when the authors entered Middle School.
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8 of 11
November 24, 2009
how can you trust any analysis on clean energy when the records that the Universities chronicalling data on climate have been shown to be hiding the data because it was not supportive of the theory?
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Anonymous
November 24, 2009
It is good that China Has been engaged in this manner by the US. After all it is one of the worst polluter till date on earth. Himalayas will vanish with the rivers if China is not stopped. That China wants to protecty its trade is understandable . I think US should extend this to other countries especially India which has has similar problems of massive population . However China has much Wind potential and therefore better placed in this regard. However
China should be restrained in investing abroad in democracies till it has a similar system . In Africa I am sure the Africans are not at all happy by chinese investments. We should not lose sight that Chinese people and regimes are different. One has to be cautious and careful becuse of past
actions of chinese.regime.
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November 24, 2009
In response to anonymous 10, there are real concerns that when Deng died, the impulse to support small-scale entrepreneurship in China became endangered.

If you search Seeking Alpha, you will find a Chinese MIT researcher who has expressed concerns regarding this.

Nonetheless, China's ability to produce class mobility is nothing short of astonishing.

It is this mobility that gives China pr advantage with developing countries, if the particular Chinese players can master cultural sensitivity.

All you have to do is to search the internet, accessible to offshore people, to get the impression that China is currently more supportive of her ordinary people than the U.S. is of hers.

I hear from travelers that people in central and south Amerca are upset about some Chinese behaviors there. As bad as U.S. tourists are capable of behaving, many have been kind, and those of this type are remembered fondly and with worry that there are so many fewer these days.

Nonetheless, China would have to behave badly indeed to rival harm from the U.S. drug war and other imperial misbehaviors from the U.S. government. People react differently from corporate behavior than from visitor behaviors.

The relevance of the above topic is that a benign, for ordinary people, new way of delivering energy will be resilient micro-grids with sufficient monitoring and maintenance close to use.

As bad as the U.S. central government is, I am feeling that the U.S. is the most likely place for this sort of system to get going. Other planetary governments tend to be even worse than ours.

I can't tell whether sufficient Chinese officials with sufficient power get this yet, but it is likely they will. China has a range of micro-climates, as we do, and she can engineer systems to fit micro-conditions.

The people who will engineer the new ways will want to collaborate across boundaries. I hope they can.
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11 of 11
December 2, 2009
Fact: American green energy innovation and ingenuity, science really, hasn't been funded since 2001.
http://inventors.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ/Ya&zTi=1&sdn=inventors&cdn=money&tm=52&gps=376_373_1225_515&f=00&tt=14&bt=0&bts=0&zu=http%3A//www.eere.energy.gov/inventions/
Patented green energy science advancements have been bought up and kept off the market by multinational corporations so that the new inventions will not upset their New World Order agenda. (The last world conquer was Hitler).
The Department of Energy and the National Renewable Energy Laboratory and in particular, Dr. Chu, has snuffed any new green energy advancements. Their agenda is to do research and development of product line for the multinational corporations and keep American innovation down.
Yes it's a win- win for Communist China and the multinational corporations and a loss- loss for Democracy and Freedom and the American people. Remember, the American manufacturing base moved to China for cheap labor; (graduate engineer $7,000 a year and most everyone else $700 a year) their allegiance is now with Communist China.
Bush was the bad cop, Obama is the good cop but the fact is we are still on the same agenda. There is no change, the free press is gone. The treason of the multinational corporations and their owned and controlled congress continues. There will be no rebuilding of America's manufacturing capabilities from the ground up with new inventions. There will only be more debt for the American people and dominance of our government by the multinational corporations New World Order agenda.
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