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How to Compare Power Generation Choices

By John Hynes, Partner, Excidian
October 29, 2009   |   17 Comments
Understanding a few basic factors will help make an informed comparison.

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Anonymous
October 29, 2009
One intersting concept here is that the utlility company chooses a plant that offers coverage at a premium price. It knows its market and knows how to best provide "all that is demanded". So what prompts the market to become "better" consumers? Energy consumers (comercial, industrial and residential) will undoubtly each increase capability to monitor and adjust demand to supply only if that supply is expensive. Only then will scalable, distrubuted and cutomized solutions allow renewable sources to provide energy below utility market premium prices at the point of use. That would create the NPV favorable to generate as much of on-site consumption as possible. What is needed are smart internal monitoring and "browning" or power-down of non-essential (low-priority) power wastes as the smart network makes the most of the renewable on site when consumption is requested and supply (wind/sun) is available.

We can not rely soley on utility companies to lead the way for renewable energy, it must be compelling for individual companies and consumers to invest in smart conservation and consumption with a way to make their own energy. This type of distributed energy indepence will also improve the security of the entire grid.
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October 30, 2009
Very interesting and informative. Thanks.
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October 30, 2009
This topic then leads to tiered pricing which penalises customers who demand power at peak times and reward with cheaper prices customers who use power at low load times. In Australia there are lower off peak tariffs for hot water heating. The water is stored for use during the day.

If prices are increased for high demand times an reduced for low demand times technologies which are not generally thought of as cost competitive such as solar PV power become more cost competitive even when there is no gross feed in tariff and the system is below the home's or businesses' usage at the time when solar PV is produced.

Higher pricing of peak usage power also encourages efficiency and or time shifting of power usage, eg run pool pumps in the evening, not day time, use washing machines and dryers in the evening, turn freezers and fridges off electronically for an hour or two in the middle of the day
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October 30, 2009
Do utilities consider future fuel prices over the 30 year period of installation. If for example nuclear or gas or coal become in short supply there is the possibilty that the plant may have to be closed down early and thus significantly increase the cost of financing capital.

Is this ignored , if not how do they handle it.
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October 30, 2009
Why are states mandating windpower without any cost-benefit analysis nor any efforts to internalize the lower value of windpower's intermittency into the power market, even after the Danish Debacle? The July 2009 issue of Power Engineering indicates windpower increases generation costs by more than twice, while reducing greenhouse gases by a mere 11 percent, mostly because it must be inefficiently backed up by natural gas. Meanwhile, cost-competitive and reliable renewable energies - like small-hydropower, geothermal and biomass cogeneration - are blocked by utility monopolies. The US government is setting up renewable energy to fail, so its energy monopolies can go back to fossil and nuclear fuels.
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6 of 17
October 30, 2009
I'm surprised John Hynes said almost nothing about conservation and efficiency, since the cheapest power plant is the one we never have to build at all. I'm glad to see Paul at least touches on them in a previous post.

Enernoc runs their Northeast utility company through load-shifting using demand-side management. Meanwhile, in 2008, the nine Texas investor-owned utilities (IOUs) exceeded their statewide legislative energy efficiency goals for the sixth straight year. The utilities achieved 202 megawatts (MW) of peak demand reduction, which was 76% above their 115 MW goal, and 581 gigawatt-hours (GWh) of energy reduction. These energy savings correspond to a reduction of 882,519 pounds of nitrogen oxide (NOx) emissions per year.

I'm all in favor of renewable power and I've really been pushing for it here in Alberta, but regardless of our energy source, we need to question and to manage our energy need.
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October 30, 2009
Good work but it's misleading to call wind "peaking power" just because it has a low capacity factor. As your text notes, true peaking power is dispatchable, not intermittent.
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October 30, 2009
This article clearly has an agenda. It overlooks on-site ICE or Stirling cycle power generation fueled with biogas from anaerobic digestion or processor gas from gasification, which have capital costs and operating costs lower than coal. The comparison becomes even more pronounced when ICE's or Stirlings are used for hot water co-generation---which wind and solar cannot do.

Still waiting for the solar panel fad to die.
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Anonymous
November 1, 2009
In comment #6 Mike Holly writes: " The July 2009 issue of Power Engineering indicates windpower increases generation costs by more than twice, while reducing greenhouse gases by a mere 11 percent, mostly because it must be inefficiently backed up by natural gas. "

The article that Mike cites is based on a flawed survey so its conclusions are not worth the paper they are printed on. One flaw is that it assumes all variability is due to wind; however, the variability from intermittent generation is partially cancelled by demand side variability so this is a huge bias. Another flaw is that is assume that all peaking power used to smooth out variability is due to open cycle methane plants which are less efficient that combined cycle plants. This is a ghastly approximation; it neglects the use of hydro power, which is ~7% of total generation in the US and ideally suited to peaking power supply. If also neglects the smoothing of variable generation by widely distributed generation. The primary study was based partly on early UK wind data when capacity factors were ~20% whereas newer wind installs in the US have capacity factors averaging above ~35%.

Wind isn't a perfect solution and is especially problematic beyond ~20-30% of total power generation, but it is readily scalable, rapidly installed, and among the more affordable of the renewable technologies. The other technologies that Mike likes to mention are typically not as scalable, or as rapidly installed, or as affordable. Small hydro is never going to be a large share of total generation; exploitable geothermal resources are limited mainly to a few states in the west (although new drilling technology may expand exploitable resources eventually) and biomass is often costly and can have large seasonal variability.
Steven
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Anonymous
November 1, 2009
Mike's claim (in comment #6) that there is a nation-wide bias towards wind does not withstand even modest examination. Wind development in 25 of the 50 states is below 100 MW, which is negligible. Exploitable wind resources in the south east are very low and growing seasons are quite favorable so if some of the biomass generation schemes are competitive anywhere they should be easily established in that region.
Steven
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Anonymous
November 3, 2009
I agree with Steven. Mike's Comment #6 is based on a deeply flawed article.

To quote it: "Because wind cannot be called up on demand, especially peak demand, installed wind generation does not reduce the amount of installed conventional capacity required," Lang states. "Wind is simply an additional capital investment."

This is simply wrong. First, I work with grid operators all over Europe and no one gives wind a capacity credit of zero, nobody. There is a range, but 16% is a popular number - 8% might be low-end. Some use higher figures (in the 20s). It depends very much on when the wind peaks versus when demand peaks (in high season), and how regular the winds are.

And before you say,"Well, that's rounding error," it's not. Because in practice, no one has built any "backup generators" for wind - not in Germany, Spain or even Denmark which has been more than 20% wind energy for years now.

Why not? Because there are many variables in the equation - import/export of energy (esp with hydro-rich Norway/Sweden), demand response, CHP - and because annual peak demand in all these markets (and US too) is MUCH higher than daily peaks, and those are much higher than troughs. Inherently, there is much more capacity than one normally uses (admittedly, some of this old, inefficient plant, but it only gets used occasionally).

For estimates of the cost of wind integration (load following), see the DOE study 20% Wind by 2030 (which came out under the Bush Administration!). It's very modest, something like $4 per MWh (or 4% of total energy cost). This is primarily fuel/maintenance cost, BTW, not capital.

Finally, I wonder what you mean by "Danish Debacle" - Denmark has an _excellent_ record of safety and efficiency, far better than most US utilities. There has not been a major blackout in Denmark in memory - can't say that about the US!
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November 3, 2009
Mr. Hynes' article raises interesting points but by glossing over some, and misleading price comparisons, leaves a mistaken impression about wind. Some of the commentary starts to explain the problems, but other anonymous commentators cast criticism without even identifying themselves.

There is no simple, single solution to power generation. Industrialized nations have both a base and a daily variable load. The base varies somewhat by season and weather, but is largely based on continuous motor loads. A daily variable load is superimposed, which follows the activity of people, who get up in the morning, plug in the coffee, and work in office, commerce, or light industry.

Our source of generation must consider these variables. Nuclear electric generators, run-of-river hydraulic generators, and gas co-generators which supply industrial heat and power are good for base load, but do not cycle up and down in output easily. On top of the base generators, we need some sort of controllable ones. Hydraulic stations with head ponds, coal or oil thermal plants, and simple cycle gas turbines are usual choices for the variable plants.

It is incorrect to compare costs per "name plate" output of wind or solar plants to others which can be dispatched, and it is improper to compare annual kWH figures. One must ask if the plant is available when needed? Does it compound the problem as wind often does, with it's highest availability is at night, forcing other base load generators off line to accommodate the variability of wind? Solar is slightly better as its maximum availability is when the load is greatest in daytime, but really either wind or solar should only be compared in cost and utility if combined with a storage system.

Value to society (and price per kWH) must factor in plant availability when really needed. We have the equation backwards, as we pay top price to wind and solar, over which we have no real control, and lower prices to the workhorses of base load generators
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Anonymous
November 3, 2009
A very interesting article. Good to see someone "outing: the topic of capacity factor which is often missing from discussions of renewable energy.

Would have liked a more lengthy discussion about the differences between peaking, base-load and dispatchable power.

The challenge of solar and wind is that they are not, strictly, in any of these categories because they are driven by daylight and weather conditions. I agree with another poster than wind should not be included as a source of "peaking" power.
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November 3, 2009
What is happening in Europe is the development of a large network to transport energy across countries. This ensures that overcapacity in one country can be transported from another country. The larger such a network is, the more wind and solar power can be installed.

Another aspect of renewable energy is that there should be a large and diverse mix of technologies used for electricity creation to ensure the highest possible use of renewable energy. If it is very sunny, it will probably be not very windy and the other way round.

All this does not mean, as mentioned by some posters, that we should not focus on energy efficiency and trying to reduce energy use. That is just not the topic of this article, but it should be implemented in the policies around the world.
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November 4, 2009
Good Discussion. I think the article does a good job providing a framework for investment decision making, and drives at the point that you can't compare "apples to oranges". I always thought of wind as a base load power resource because it can't be counted on to satisfy fluctuations in the peak demand. Whatever the taxonomy, the point is that there are advantages (and disadvantages) to each technology. The key take home message is that because of the numerous differences in characteristics such as dispatch ability, capacity and load factors, and intermittency; it is difficult to compare alternatives. That is to avoid getting into additional differences such as reserve requirements, and reactive supply voltage.
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November 10, 2009
Hello, I am from Peru, and I need to compare the choices to use internal combustion engines against microturbines to use landfill gas to power generation, but I need updated capital costs, average load factor in US, or other Countries as possible, and emissions data, an so on. If someone has the right information, Could him or her please help me?. I will be very greatful..
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February 24, 2010
On renewable energies things are not witten yet. MArket is constantly changind, technologies advancing...and costs certanly change every day but has an idea..of how to do ti..is great!! Article seems and it is very interesting is the way the author do that job...I like it. please write the next about it. Yuri Ulianov L. yuri.lopez@ieee.org
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