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How PV Grid-Tie Inverters Can Zap Utility Power Factor

By Gerritt Lee
October 15, 2009   |   13 Comments

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October 16, 2009
Thank you for the informative article. I wonder who will be the first to spin this into something the big, bad utilities are doing to stifle the growth of solar PV in the USA. Lenz's Law, is it just another law in the way green power development? Of course not, this is a law of physics, how do we get that repealed?
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October 16, 2009
My experience with Xantrex and Satcon inverters has been the opposite. In general, grid-tie inverters have a better power factor than some utility companies. Older circuits on Los Angeles Department of Water & Power's (LADWP) have particularly poor power factors. It would be good to hear from other integrators who have CTs on both their PV systems' outputs and the grid.
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October 16, 2009
My company Island Pacific Energy was the firm that brought this issue to HECO's attention in the spring of this year on our 460kW installation at Punahou School. The article is a little misleading as it implies that the power factor for a customer gets worse when PV is installed. In reality, the power factor for the customer with PV installed actually improves. The issue is that the power factor as measured by the Utility at the meter looks worse because the ratio of real vs apparent power gets skewed. With a PV system installed behind the meter, the Utility continues to provide the same amount of apparent power but provides less real power as this is provided by the PV system. If you measure the power factor inside the customers grid (as opposed to at the Utility Meter) you will see that the power factor for the customer actually improves.
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October 19, 2009
I have a small residential PV system, 1.44kW grid-tied with battery backup for essential loads, most of which are somewhat reactive in nature (240V well pump, septic pump, oil-fired hot water heater, fridge). Your article implies that the commercial GTI only supplies real power, PF = 1. How is it then that when the grid goes down at my house, my batteries/inverter supply power at something less than PF = 1 to support my reactive loads? Why wouldn't a commercial inverter do the same/share the reactive loads with the utility grid?
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October 19, 2009
to rmichael-curran-136183: Grid tied and off grid inverters operate differently. The article is referring to grid tied inverters (no battery backup).
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October 20, 2009
One possible solution for Commercial/Industrial installations is to require the Inverter to support leading and lagging power factors, i.e. operate at non-unity power factors to provide reactive power support. Inverter manufacturers are capable of implementing appropriate control logic and power electronics to accomplish this. As intensity of solar irradiation and therefore PV power output varies, the inverter can "track" to make the best possible power factor given the available generation. An Inverter-based solution of this nature may be cheaper than alternatives such as fixed or switched capacitor banks and/or inductive compensation.
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October 22, 2009
Hello all:

I wonder with the increasing spread of PWM being used to increase motor performance, reducing loads and power usage etc.., how this will / has impacted the above discussion..??..

.....Bill
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8 of 13
October 28, 2009
I agree with joel, in most cases it improves the cutomer and utility PF.
In the case where the % looks worse for the utility it in fact is less ,50% less in the example yet looks % wise higher. It's really 50% less period but since it's half the power it looks like a higher %.

joel-davidson-60793 October 16, 2009
My experience with Xantrex and Satcon inverters has been the opposite. In general, grid-tie inverters have a better power factor than some utility companies. Older circuits on Los Angeles Department of Water & Power's (LADWP) have particularly poor power factors. It would be good to hear from other integrators who have CTs on both their PV systems' outputs and the grid
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January 27, 2010
I tend to agree with the author. IMHO the bottom line is that the customer is reducing their active energy received from the grid, yet still imposing all of their reactance on the grid.
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March 28, 2010
Pykkonen - per your comment above - I have been told by a couple of inverter manufacturers that the cost of a capacitor bank to provide reactive power support is far less than the the value of the lost kWs of real power (and revenue generated per kWh) you'd have to give up to operate your inverter at something other than unity power factor. Can you or somebody else on this posting confirm this is likely the case in the majority of situations?
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January 28, 2011
Of course your power on site will look better. You are having pristine real power being generated on site. However the utility has now reduced its requirement for real power (your generating it) but still has the same demand for reactive power.

Imagine if every customer produced all of their own real power needs but left it to the utility to produce the reactive power. The utility would have to provide a service, but not get paid for it. And it would be impossible to control the grid.


I totally support solar, I work in the industry and have my own system. I just don't think solar should be getting a free ride because it's green.
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February 22, 2011
Really nice article!

Here is the way SMA are dealing with this issue:

http://download.sma.de/smaprosa/dateien/7418/ReactivePower-UEN101310.pdf
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March 17, 2012
Hi
Interesting discussion. However I cannot see the last diagram showing the comparison of p.f. with and without grid tie inverter.
Can it be reloaded or mail to me? prakashmagal@gmail.com
thanks.
Prakash Magal
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