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Storing Solar Energy with CSP

By Christy Herig, SEPA
September 1, 2009   |   7 Comments

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September 2, 2009
There are also CSP venues that function on the home scale, or small (and not so small) business level. The concentrated solar heat of these collection venues can also be stored, generally in the form of heated water, an easily transported fluid that is more on a level of use temperature for space and process heating. This application, if more widely implemented, could allay the need for over half of the building scale electrical and mined fuel energy used in the country. Some sources say much more. This use requires no additional grid buildout and replaces CO2 and net global heating pollution.
I realize that the question posed may not have had this level of heating in its focus, but perhaps it needs to be more widely considered all the same, as it was not ruled out. It is much more easily done than large scale CSP, and is distributed among those who may want to be responsible for their own energy sources. It also releives the dependance of the populace on an infrastructure that has been (recently or not) proven to encourage profiteering and corruption because of the huge profits involved.
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September 2, 2009
This need doesn't really exist right now because energy demand is highest when the sun is out, and this will likely be the case for at least the next 10-20 years. In fact, this is one of the reasons that make solar so attractive right now.

I think in another 15 years, though, plug-in vehicles will increase evening demand to the point where extending solar powered energy into the evening will be desirable enough to make doing so economically viable.

Most CSP plants can have (and do have) the option to keep their generators going on cloudy days (and evenings if desired), by supplementing the heat source with fossil fuels. Not a perfect solution, but better than 100% fossil fuel plants when they're only needed when it's dark.
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September 2, 2009
Regarding trough plants, underground caverns for storing thermal energy under the solar arrays in huge caverns is very viable. I believe it was Ausra, for example, has done some research storing super-heated steam this way to show if properly done, at a reasonable cost it maintained a surprising level of thermal energy over a 24 to 48 hour period. Personally it seems these caverns would have to be pretty deep to safely handle the pressures, but at a depth of say 200' it seems all they should have to do is hollow out a cavern and coat it with high-temp plastic.

Also, Ausra, and some others, are confident that using plain old water instead of molten salts or oils is very doable and provides a number of benefits, the #1, of course, being much higher efficiencies since there's not heat x-fer involved, and superheated steam retains it's heat quite well. It's a tricky engineering problem, but it looks like most of the kinks have been ironed out in the technology

But like I said, the economics have to demand it, and when daytime electricity costs 3x night-time energy it's pretty clear the need won't be there for quite some time.
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September 2, 2009
a couple things... first, the peak demand periods frequently extend into the evening hours, when sun does not shine any more. Thus TES is currently extrememely beneficial for both the utilities and project economics. second, TES takes a solar plant into the firm & dispatchable categories, and are thus given credit for capacity, whereas PV systems w/o storage are not.

And to the author: I do not see how linear Fresnel setups do not have inherent TES -- you are circulating a HTF, the same way you are operating a parabolic trough or central receiver. Yes, you're HTF is typically (per Ausra) water/steam, however you can still have TES with this HTF (e.g. Abengoa's PS10, PS20 in Spain). SkyFuel, for example, is developing a CLFR w molten salt as HTF. Since there's a volume of HTF, there's thermal inertia, and inherent TES potential. Parabolic dish/Stirling is the only CSP tech w/o a HTF w large heat capacities...thus its capacity to ride out transients is limited. Definately a downside. However, there is some thermal inertia in the PCU (Stirling engine) housing, and therefore the output does not drop off as dramatically as your PV cells, which is immediate.
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September 4, 2009
The US is not the only country on the planet, and the Southern States the only ones of interest !

If you venture to think of your neighbour, Canada (or Maine / NH / Dakotas etc.) , their need is for power for heating and lighting in the winter months far more than air conditioning in the summer ones. Their needs should be addressed too. The Sunshine States MUST consider themselves as the power house for ALL of North America - which is why you'll need a decent lond-distance electrical grid (probably HVDC).

Like chbrosz I find the comments about Fresnel and heat storage, just baffling - has she talked with David Mills at Ausra ?
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September 8, 2009
Sopogy uses a similar approach in their MicroCSP platform (http://www.sopogy.com/microcsp/)
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Anonymous
October 5, 2009
A technical question I'm not sure where to post. What is the maximum operating temperature a linear parabolic trough can generate given the concentration factor is limited by the half ange of the sun to a factor of 215. Can an abosrber potentially reach 1652 degrees f (900 degrees celcius) with a well if not constantly evacuated absorber? Assume superheated steam is used as HTF. Asnwer this question and save the world.
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