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Renewables Impact on the Grid? Answers from Telecom History

By Mahesh P. Bhave, PhD
September 8, 2009   |   4 Comments

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Distributed generation isn't just a matter of approval and regulation as it was with telecoms.

As Mahesh admits - the analogy between electricity distribution networks and telephone systems can only be taken so far. To the layman they may seem similar. Both use poles and wires to connect end users to a network.

The big difference between the two is the telephone network was designed to be bi-directional. That is messages were sent out to end users and similar volumes of messages were received back. This made it relatively easy to convert it to send packets of data in both directions rather than just analog speech which is what it was originally designed for.

The current electricity distribution network was designed to be uni-directional. Electricity was sent out to the end user and never sent the other way. So the network was built to be progressively "weaker" as it moved towards the end users because less and less power was needed the further out from the generators the network reached.

Fortunately electricity will flow in both directions even through transformers so adding small quatities of distributed generation (like a few roof top PV panels) can be accommodated without upgrading distribution lines or transformers.

As distributed generation grows the distribution network will require stengthening in areas with significant local generation capacity at significant cost - to someone. Should it be shared with all users on the network or just the users who want to install "big" distributed generating systems? If the distributed generation was allowed to proceed without the upgrades then all users on the network in the region of the distributed generator will be negatively impacted.

This a very different problem than the one faced by the telecoms network.
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September 9, 2009
As distributed generation (cogeneration) grows, so does consumer demand for energy. Consumer demand for energy also leads to upgrading of weak links in our electrical distribution system. Especially in regards to peak demand which by the way often parallels peak generation of co generation members. It seems to me one would need to ignore this parallel to reach conclusions that it is the fault of cogeneration members if upgrades in the outdated distribution system are needed, in fact it is plausible that cogeneration members could give utilities a little leeway of time to correct overdue improvements to their system.

It is backwards worries and irrational thinking that lead to an 18 month battle to interconnect our system to the utility and why we still are the only cogeneration member within our utility's 26,000 member base. The fact that we generate during peak demand and reuse power during off peak, resulting in a balance of energy usage is somehow overlooked by irrational worries that we will cost everyone else by overloading an antique distribution system that continues to over load by ever increasing peak power demand is amazing.
Earthbilly
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September 9, 2009
I don't entirely agree with Dr. Bhave. AT&T had a national monopoly. No electric company has such a thing. All power is local. Free trade is not a arrangement amenable to local supply and control. In most states, a government agency already determines the rates, and reach of each electric company. Electric companies exist in a feudal business environment, not a free trade or monopoly. Each has dominion over a particular area. This is why Mr. Hadley has had such a tough time of negotiation. It's like negotiating with a feudal lord.

Privately owned, individual generation takes money out of the local generator's pocket. There is little incentive for generators to change. There is a big incentive for manufactures and installers of PV equipment to innovate and economize. It's happening now, at a good clip.

There are going to be some major changes in T&D in the near future. It will be a string of headaches for consumers, reliability councils, generators, and T&D alike. However, those headaches drive change. These changes requires new equipment, new wires, new modes of distribution.

All this equals JOBS.

The feudal lords need to learn some new tricks. If not, they may become tomorrow's beggars.
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September 9, 2009
I suspect that the key to successful integration of small widely distributed renewable energy generators with major power companies is exactly the same key that makes all business feasible and sustainable. Both sides gain a fair advantage from the transaction. If, for instance, the power company paid 80% of the instantaneous rate that it is charging its customers at that moment (possible with smart grids), they would always have a 20% profit to put towards maintaining the grid and towards their bottom line. Fair to both sides. Of course governments have to come to the party and restrain themselves from taxing the transaction and making it uneconomical.
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