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Roadsters Embrace Green Racing

By Doug Dollemore, American Chemical Society
June 25, 2009   |   13 Comments

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Race cars actually move the technology of street cars in several ways. One, the technology of race cars develops at a much faster pace than the technology in street cars. And two, they form the basis of what kind of cars people want. They see cars racing on the track, and that's the kind of car they want to buy."

-- John C. Glenn, Environmental Specialist, EPA
13 Reader Comments
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1 of 13
June 26, 2009
Racing and other competitions are ego's pissing contests at best. Childish and wasteful. The ego relishes taking the peaceful nature of electric autos to the chaos of a former idol so it has a reason to fear peace and encourage our destruction, which is its goal.
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2 of 13
June 26, 2009
Finnaly! That was a must for such a long time. Obviously F1 and other competitions are to improve car design as well as motor and other components. If we really want to change our vehicles, races must change as well. This is a great idea and i hope it picks up momentum!
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3 of 13
June 26, 2009
This is awesome. Competiition will bring with it new inventions and innovations that will undoubtedly find their way into the cars we drive everyday. Competition is what fuels our economy. If it's just a pissing contest, then I say piss away!
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4 of 13
June 26, 2009
The FIT legistation in Washington is a joke and one in Oregon being enacted is another joke. Vermont has it right with excellent FIT program. Hopefully, FIT's will become a reality.

Washinggton has excellent proprosed legistation that sandbag and as results was left on the table. Hopefully, next year we get it passed. buildamericabuild.com is site deciated to the idea of FIT's

Cheers
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5 of 13
June 26, 2009
Phil,

Lighten up, let your hair down and have a bit of FUN..... :-)
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6 of 13
June 27, 2009
http://www.americanlemans.com/images/sponsors/09_MICHELIN_GreenX_Challenge_booklet.pdf

Explaination and graphics explaining the GreenX Challenge.

Indy Racing League Circuit cars use 100% ethanol. Indy racers have used alcohol fuels since 1964. Ethanol was made the only fuel allowed in 2007. This was for safety reasons. Ethanol is far less toxic than methanol---and methanol can be absorbed through the skin.
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7 of 13
June 27, 2009
A Biomass/pyrolysis fueled car could take all the "Green" award points.
Soil sequestration of the char by product makes such an entry 1/3 carbon negative. Ti could event take the event itself carbon negative by use of biomass waste of the crowd.and Applied as biochar to the in field grass.

We must coop those who relish pissing matches to at least piss in the right direction.

Another significant aspect of bichar and aerosols are the low cost ($3) Biomass cook stoves that produce char but no respiratory disease. http://terrapretapot.org/ and village level systems http://biocharfund.org/ with the Congo Basin Forest
Fund (CBFF). The Biochar Fund recently won $300K for these systems citing these priorities;
(1) Hunger amongst the world's poorest people, the subsistence farmers of Sub-Saharan Africa,
(2) Deforestation resulting from a reliance on slash-and-burn farming,
(3) Energy poverty and a lack of access to clean, renewable energy, and
(4) Climate change.

This ordering of priorities is a compelling mantra against the Biofuel Watch UK group who have consistently misrepresented Biochar research work.

Carbon to the Soil, the only ubiquitous and economic place to put it.
Cheers,
Erich


This is the single most comprehensive report to date, covering more of the Asian and Australian work;
http://www.csiro.au/files/files/poei.pdf

Biochar data base;
TP-REPP
http://terrapreta.bioenergylists.org/?q=node

the first North American Biochar Conference, at CU in Boulder , ms.
Keynote speaker Secretary Tom Vilsack & Dr. Susan Solomon (NOAA's head atmospheric scientist) at.
http://www.regonline.com/builder/site/Default.aspx?eventid=684390

There is real magic coming out of the Asian Biochar conference.
15 ear per stalk corn with 250% yield increase,
Sacred Trees and chickens raised from near death
Multiple confirmations of 80% - 90% reduction of soil GHG emissions
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8 of 13
June 28, 2009
This is a fantastic initiative.

One of the problems in Australia is raising the profile of clean and sustainable technologies and at the same time showing that they can be just as exciting and useful as old dirty technologies. This would certainly demonstrate that clean cars are fast and exciting! Raising the profile of clean technologies and demonstrating what they can achieve would break down a lot of barriers to their acceptance.

If any one in Australia is considering anything similar then Griffith Hack would love to be involved.

Justin Blows
Patent Attorney at Griffith Hack
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9 of 13
June 28, 2009
I've said for a long time that NASCAR should be held responsible in it's own right for literally gigatons of CO2. Watching 25-30 cars drive for 600 miles in a circle at 200 miles an hour; not fun, not good for the environment. Now the question is if one car gets done quicker, by say even 30 seconds, if the number two car puts out an appreciable amount of CO2 LESS than the first place car, who is the winner?
I'm not sure about carbon negative on the whole for the event; lighting and other electrical demands, as well as supplying food, drink, and amenities to the crowd would probably put you over budget. Granted, it would be well over 50% reduction of impact, but carbon negative is truly difficult to pull off.
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10 of 13
June 28, 2009
Justin---Indy Racing League has used alcohols for over 40 years, not for PR---alcohols simply make better fuels for internal combustion engines than petroleum. Both from a safety and performance point of view.

The whole point of racing is winning. The key to winning is thermal efficiency. The key to thermal efficiency in an internal combustion engine is compression, the higher the compression ratio of an engine, the greater the thermal efficiency. Engines can run on ethanol at compression ratios of about 18~24:1 vs. about 9:1 on regular gasoline. The thermal efficiency of a gasoline engine runs about 20%----the efficiency of an ethanol engine can be as much as 45%. Nobody would bother trying to build a gasoline engined racer for the Indy 500----they'd be laughed off the track.
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11 of 13
July 3, 2009
If this is really going to work there needs to be a different system than then one proposed where the winner of the race may not be the car that crosses the finish line first. One of the great aspects of auto racing is the excitement of watching the cars come into the final stretch and seeing who crosses first barely ahead of the second place car. If the winner was not the first across the line and people had to wait for an analysis of all the other data to be done it would take much of the fun out of it. I have seen this in sailboat racing where each boat has a handicap and it can be an hour or more after the end of the race before the finish order is announced. Since which boat is leading has less to do with who will win it's not as exciting to watch.

A better plan would be to require all the cars to operate at or below a maximum carbon footprint standard and then let the fastest car and driver win. The maximum carbon foot print could be lowered over time to encourage innovation.
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12 of 13
July 16, 2009
Erich Knight - please spare us from your shilling of biomass/pyrolysis and biochar product pitch. You knock on Biofuel Watch UK of which I know some of them personally - claiming they "misrepresent" your product. Truth is, that you are obviously invested in pyrolysis INCINERATION (of which you claim, "cause no respiratory disease." I've seen your posts on at least 10 articles with the same skewed information.

Please point me to a peer reviewed study that verifies how incineration which at minimum releases particulate matter, VOC's, CO2, SOx, NOx, is healthy to breathe. I know your process has a smokestack, but will you admit it?

Carbon negative burning?...please!
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13 of 13
November 18, 2009
very informative article..
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