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Glass Half Full or Half Empty?

By Scott Sklar, The Stella Group
June 2, 2009   |   13 Comments
Commentary on the Waxman Markey bill.

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1 of 13
June 2, 2009
This article is helpful by somewhat reconciling the wide spectrum of viewpoints of those with interest in sustainable energy.

But what the article doesn't do is make a clear prognosis. What I am still trying to determine is whether ACES is "good enough", or whether it will end up so fundamentally flawed that we'd actually be better off scrapping it and trying again in a couple years.

My opinion is that it would have to be quite profoundly screwed up to be worse than the status quo. But I'm not sure that it's not headed that way. In the meantime, I will advocate for some of the various provisions to strengthen the bill.
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2 of 13
June 2, 2009
The Waxman/Markey bill is clearly fundamentally flawed. Carbon caps or taxes are good, trade is so bad it's hard to describe. Do we really want to create Voodoo economic scams where market-trolls get rich on efforts to deploy renewable energy generation capacity? Every dollar that lands in a market-troll's pocket is one that didn't manufacture or install RE.

We need simple, transparent, equitable, and proven effective policies that inspire investor confidence and guarantee long-term policy stability; we don't need to create another chaotic market - with wildly fluctuating prices - trading carbon credits. It's insane and has been proven not to work. Been there, done that, no thanks.

Just look at Germany, Spain, France and others, all of whom are actually displacing fossil-fuel use in energy generation with renewables. I want us to be like Spain who installed nearly 3,000MW of solar last year while the U.S. - essentially a non-player in PV - installed a measly 324MW. And to add insult to injury - we have seven times the population of Spain! It's disgusting. It borders on treason to be insisting we bolster already known - and failed - policies of quota systems, tax incentives, and RECs programs.

It's time to tuck all this carbon credit nonsense and RPS standards, that create de-facto caps on RE deployment, in the market-trolls back pockets and send them out the door - walking the plank might actually be a better idea.

Lets adopt an aggressive feed-in tariff (FIT) program, whether at the state or federal level, and be done with it - create jobs, stimulate the economy, mitigate GHG emissions, and allow everyone to install RE generation capacity, not just those savvy and rich enough to navigate complicated incentive programs. The great state of Vermont just passed the first advanced FIT program in the United States, lets join them and do the same. I don't know about you, but I want to know I'm charging my car with RE generated and stored locally.
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3 of 13
June 3, 2009
Aside from the fact that the theory of global warming is the largest hoax ever perpetrated on mankind, renewables are still necessary to reduce actual pollution (CO2 is not a pollutant).

Bob (above) is right about one thing - the most equitable scenario to build renewables is the feed-in tariff, providing market-based pricing for electricity generation. Capitalism is the right way to address the issue, not socialism.
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4 of 13
June 3, 2009
Bravo Bob,

Lets adopt an aggressive feed-in tariff (FIT) program, whether at the state or federal level, and be done with it - create jobs, stimulate the economy, mitigate GHG emissions, and allow everyone to install RE generation capacity, not just those savvy and rich enough to navigate complicated incentive programs. The great state of Vermont just passed the first advanced FIT program in the United States, lets join them and do the same. I don't know about you, but I want to know I'm charging my car with RE generated and stored locally.

If we had adopted the Feed In Tariff when conceived back in 70's right here in U.S., rather than shelving concept by our gov. leaders who were paid off by utility company lobbests, we wouldn't be in the environmental jam we are now. FIT is only solution, both short term and long term, but given all the stop gap failures in energy regulations, we are seeing slow progress just as we did with net metering, a few states adopted it, then years later the feds got involved, so this should not be allowed to repeat with the FIT. Heck, even CAN had adopted FIT in Ontario province, Gainsville, FL, and now VT, so what, will it take another five years for fed. gov to wake up?
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5 of 13
June 3, 2009
Bravo Bob & Mike,
Feed in Tariff would be the right approach for the renewable energy sector especially for a solid solar industry and the residential and commercial rate payers. As of now, the only ones who are making out with all the dollars from the feds are the large utilities such as FPL here in Florida. FPL does not want a solar industry in this state unless they have control. They do not want solar electric systems on homes or businesses. They profess how they are the leader in solar, well hell if I had the rate payers funding all of the projects my company wanted to do we would be the leader too. FPL has come out publicly and said they will fight tooth and nail against a Feed In Tariff in this state. FPL fought aginst net-metering in this state. They are scared of the success of the Gainesville Regional Utility success with there F.I.T. FPL states that F.I.T.s causes artificial pricing of electricity and the costs will increase. FPL pointed out that Gremanys rates went up 5% last year, well in 2007 FPL rates went up 8%. This past year FPL received an 18% request from the Florida P.S.C. which because of their kindness, FPL gave back 1.5% making it a 16.5% increase starting in 01/09. Now the kicker, FPL is going back to the P.S.C. for a 30% increase starting in 01/10. The only ones making out on solar in this state is FPL thanks to our legislators who FPL are in the pockets of. The solar contractors here in this state do not have the $ to go against FPL. In fact the bi-partisian bill for the state wide F.I.T. was blocked by republicans in the state legislative session from even coming to the floor for debate. The legislators then went home for 9 months and did nothing for renewable energy in this state. One of the co-sponsors of the F.I.T. bill was Paige Kreegle, a republican and chairman of the energy commitee here in Florida. This is about control, Florida Plunder & Loot wants it all and they are not alone. Greed is killing this country.
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6 of 13
June 3, 2009
this article to me is pretty dissapointing. well written and all, compliments to the writer (don't get me wrong), but just not leaving me w/ a ton of hope. Briefly addressing the skeptic - climate change is real, anthropogenic, and unequivocal amongst the scientific community; we are beyond this discussion. Moving forward, swift and dramatic action must be taken, I think we can agree on this. The nice thing about the FIT is that it is the catalyst for quick and massive procurement of previously expensive RE technologies. European countries have proved this. I would like to see a FIT written into law. However...

Electricity is simply too cheap. I'm an advocate for putting a price on carbon pollution (tax or cap/trade), because only then will the two things that need to happen will happen concurrently -- that is massive RE procurement AND ubiquitous energy efficiency measures on exisiting buildings. Let us not forget the thirst that our many buildings have on the grid that the fossil plants must satisfy. We must not only replace our fossil-derived electrons with renewable electrons, but we must also reduce the amount of electrons carelessly wasted to begin with. At a nat'l average of less than 10 cents/kWh, there's no strong incentive to practice conservation. Yes, you can still make the argument, and some listen, but not near the scale that is needed. Furthermore, if say the price of carbon were high enough to increase the utility tarrifs to a nat'l ave of 15 cents/kWh, not only would there be a swift and dramatic reduction in electricity demand/consumption due to energy efficiency measures being implemented, but the economics of wind, solar PV and CSP, geothermal, etc all of a sudden look a lot more positive.

A FIT would be great, but in my eyes it does not solve the problem. We are spoiled with cheap energy, which is why we are having problems making the transition. Put a price on carbon, and the RE techs will naturally emerge as winners.
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7 of 13
June 3, 2009
Jim Hansen's latest proposals on "Tax&Dividend" vs. Cap & Trade ;
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biochar-climatechange/message/766


What the CFC/Ozone success story was for the status of atmospheric chemistry, I feel biochar will be for carbon soil chemistry, Mycology and Microbiology.
The same relationship I felt held for the NOX & SOX success story for Cap & Trade and would mean,(with the EU lessons learned) for the cap & trade in carbon. I thought the relatively painless process for both industry and consumer in clearing the air and ending acid rain would offer the most painless carbon solution.

Hansen has turned me around with this paper. The simplicity of calling carbon by it's name, at it's source, reduces the overall complexity, for the public most of all. A system to deal with CO2 equivalence of other GHG will be complex enough by it's nature of not having a chock point source.

Politically, C tax & dividend may be to late to the stage this year to have a legislative chance, but I am changing my arguments for it, and will spread Hansen's.

Here are two posts concerning modification of where the dividend should go

I'm sending you this because I didn't want to just throw it at the standards committee and muddy the work focused on cap & trade.

Better a Trade in the hand than two Dividends in the bush?

Your thoughts, please,
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8 of 13
June 3, 2009
Here is a modification on Hansen's Tax&Dividend which I like;

From: Folke Günther
Date: Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [biochar-climatechange] Emailing: 20080604_TaxAndDividend.pdf
To: biochar-climatechange@yahoogroups.com


I agree with Jim Hansen's proposal on a global carbon tax .
However, I don't think the tax should be paid back to everybody, indiscriminately.

Instead, the tax collected to restrain emissions should be paid to those who sequester carbon from the air.
By that the counteracting measure could be very profitable
(In Sweden, the emission tax is 1 SEK per kg CO2, or 3.77 SEK (about $ 0.5) per kg carbon.)

If the same amount would be paid to those who bury char in their own land , a normal farmer, making char of the waste biomass could get an extra payment of about $ 1000 per hectare! (assuming a harvest of 8 tonnes per hectare)

Many would join in. Here we are in a potential situation similar to that depicted by the anti-biochaists.
The solution to that is to restrict the payment to those following certain rules of an 'ethical' charring.

I mentioned that in my paper 'Carbon sequestration for everybody' about Mrs Ruth Less.

FG

http://www.holon.se/folke/carbon/Terra%20pretav1_0.pdf
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9 of 13
June 3, 2009
Chris,
There are as many in the scientific community that support my view as support yours. It is wrong to say that the discussion is over or that the debate is satisfied. We must not move fast on any project of this magnitude, especially cap-and-trade, with so much uncertainty remaining.

What possible rational is there for taxing the US economy to death, via cap-and-trade, when the third world does nothing to reduce emmissions? They are building enough coal-fired generation every three years to replace the annual emmissions from the US and Europe. Regardless of what the US and Europe does, the pollution will be replaced in three years and doubled in six. If a carbon tax is going to work, it has to be applied worldwide.

Until renewables are cheaper than fossil fuels, the world can not reduce emmissions. Competition is the only way to get it there, to drive the R&D needed - subsidies and taxes are just not going to make it happen.
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10 of 13
June 3, 2009
Well, we could just let the free market control our future, yes. At the expense of the world\?!?!? The free market does not factor in the future implications of current actions. And btw, the all important economy need not suffer - Sweden has had a carbon tax in place for over a decade and has experience nothing but economic growth.

And I refuse to be sucked back into the debate whether climate change is real or not. do you really think that is a hoax? What do all the thousands of people "cooperating" have to gain? These scientists aren't gaining financially, if that's what you think their dishonest motivations would be coming from...If there is new science out there that I am not aware of, please show me the peer-reviewed scientific paper claiming that not only is climate change not human accelerated, but nor is it even happenning (as you claim). Would love to see it. I would sleep a lot better at night. But confident there's no such thing, the scientific community is terrified, and the latest IPCC estimation is that we must peak our carbon emissions by 2015. Why is the impact on the economy even coming into the discussion (good or bad)?? There are some issues that supercede others. Hmmm....gold bars or the planet....hmmmm....it shouldn't even enter into the discussion.

At the same time we use the excuse that 3rd world countries aren't taking action, they are doing the same, saying, "why should we have to, when the most advance countries aren't doing anything?" We must LEAD. We must set the example so that no one else has any excuses. The clock is ticking. Let's expedite the process by monetizing the adverse environmental impacts of fossil fuels, subsequently reducing their use and thereby eliminating the negative effects of dirty energy (mining, mtntop removal, mercury/sulfur dioxide/nitrous oxide/particulates/etc emissions, water pollution, resource wars, health issues (look to China for these), habitat loss, the list goes on for pages...)
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11 of 13
June 4, 2009
A good, balanced article from Scott, showing that the energy/environmental community is indeed split on 2454, with no-one wearing a black hat. Our fears about giving nodding approval to a bill that Mrs. Slocombe would call "as weak as water" is that passage of such a bill allows lawmakers to pat themselves on the back and forget about energy reform and carbon mitigation for five years. By that time it will be clear that the bill had little or no effect on carbon emissions, and assuming the sky has not turned puce or filled up with space aliens by that time, the average Joe will conclude that the whole climate change 'thing' was a false alarm anyway.

Better by far, for Johnny the bright star, to kill it dead -- re-do it instead. And preferably as a carbon tax bill. I have nothing against cap & trade in principal, but if this is what it leads to, let's try something that sends an unmistakable signal to the market about the future cost of carbon. Seems to me John Larson (D-CT) had such a bill in writing, but no-one paid much attention to it. This would be a good time to dust it off and find out if we're really serious about this issue.
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12 of 13
June 8, 2009
Chris B. wrote: "...do you really think that is a hoax? What do all the thousands of people "cooperating" have to gain?"

Yes, it is a hoax, based on flawed data, assumptions and theories. I'm still trying to figure out the profit (or recognition/fame/notoriety) motive...

As near as I can tell, the anti-pollution crowd has not gotten the support it desired, so it concocted the global warming hoax to get attention. It seems to have worked very well. Don't get me wrong, I fully support reducing actual pollution, but not to the detriment of the world economy.

The theory is based largely on ice core samples. The trouble is that the data from those is not verifiable. We can get information, but there is nothing to match the data with - no actual records from the years assumed to be represented, because no one was there to accurately measure or record it.

What is omitted from the conversation is the ever-changing activity and affect from the sun, which is actually what effects the temperature of the earth on a daily basis.

As for the third world, the only way they are going to join the anti-pollution fight is to be able to generate electricity more cheaply than they are currently doing. The motivation to create the technology to do so can only be based on free markets... think about it.
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13 of 13
June 13, 2009
There is real magic coming out of the Asian Biochar conference.
15 ear per stalk corn with 250% yield increase,
Sacred Trees and chickens raised from near death
Multiple confirmations of 80% - 90% reduction of soil GHG emissions

The abstracts of the conference are at
http://www.anzbiochar.org/AP%20BioChar%20Confer...
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