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Wind Turbine Technology Gets Bigger and Better

The Hannover Fair 2009 offers a positive shift in the outlook on wind power.

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Enercon is rumored to be testing an 8-MW version of the E-126 (onshore) giant. The German market leader now manufactures one 6-MW E-126 onshore turbine a month and this number will expand gradually to meet growing international demand, said a company representative in Hannover.
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1 of 11
May 12, 2009
Comparing to a previous conversation mentioning I really like the idea of placing the generators at the bottom of these large scaled Wind Turbines. Using Hydraulics to propel the Generators at a more reachable height of Ground level then 40 stories up in the air. But, this thinking has not caught on by the large wind turbine manufacturers yet has it?
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2 of 11
May 12, 2009
The losses associated with conversion of rotational motion to hydraulic pressure and flow down and back up 40 stories would be significant and constant. The value added by easier access or possible reduced construction cost would be trivial in comparison.
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May 13, 2009
I agree that hydraulic transfer of power is probably not practical, but the generator should be installed at ground level. It would be driven by a vertical shaft, just like the post windmill which has been used for centuries. The gearbox at the top of the tower would increase the rotor speed and turn the rotation 90 degrees to drive the vertical shaft. The faster the vertical drive shaft turns, the smaller the diameter required. It is not difficult to design the gearbox and right-angle drive. I proposed this idea to Vestas several years ago but received no reply.
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4 of 11
May 13, 2009
Gentlemen, we have already conquered the positioning of the generator. It was done over the last 15 years and is in commercial use today with ocean energy device. We have now applied it to wind power generation.
Any questions please direct them to jjg@cmgai.com
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5 of 11
May 13, 2009
Good thoughts, I hope the book is not closed on development. It seems to practical to push aside. Regardless these new and future machines are engineering elegance in vivo.
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Anonymous
May 20, 2009
There is a hearing today May 20th for setbacks to commercial wind turbines in Massachusetts . Massachusetts has failed the public in the areas of public safety ,ice throw,shadow flicker ,noise tests. Installations have been met with lawsuits by small citizens groups holding up the states plan for renewable energy goals.
Since 2004 many citizens groups have started as of a result of the siting of commercial wind turbines to close to residential property. The setbacks proposed in Mattapoisett less than 750 feet,Fairhaven 600 feet, Cohasett 1000 feet and some towns no setbacks at all because of "special permits."
Legal action and studies done by the citizens groups has been paid for by the residential homeowners that border these sites to defend their bundle of rights in residentially zoned locations in these towns. The theory that a few have to suffer for the good of all is heard over and over from towns that want to install these commercial turbines. The entire class of people in Massachusetts that lose their property rights because of the siting of these turbines need compensation.
The state of Massachusetts needs to come up with a method of compensation for the introduction of commercial products for the class of residents in residential areas.
The shoreline of southeastern Massachusetts is already densely populated.
The continued placement of commercial wind turbines in Massachusetts is going to result in a class action lawsuit against those placing commercial wind without compensation of the residential property rights and the loss of the sticks of rights from that bundle of rights
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7 of 11
June 16, 2009
I guess that's the way those muckity mucks survive.
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Anonymous
June 16, 2009
Placing the heavy turbine generator on ground elevation will provide numerous advantages in the dynamic response as well as the column structures, which will logically require a vertical axis wind blades.
For mills going larger generation capacity per unit, we will have to go to Darrieus type blade. I visualize numerous advantages and efficiency.
Also we can install a round elevated water storage tank inside the space provided by the blade configuration.
NASA and DOE must look into the issues.

Samuel W. Chung, Salt Lake City, Utah, USA
June 16, 2009
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June 16, 2009
I find nothing encouraging about the news in the article for the U.S. wind energy market. One of the primary selling points for more wind energy by wind energy advocates, especially AWEA, is job creation. However, all of the news is about foreign companies and their progress in the development of the technology. The job creation will be in foreign countries as usual and the U.S. will be the loser.
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June 18, 2009
Hello, all of you are right ;-) I think, the people around the world should believe in renewable energy in spite of imprefection wind turbines... I'm optimist how one of chapter this article 'Optimistic Wind Industry'.
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June 28, 2009
Good discussion, but I think the engineering involved with having a vertical shaft turning a 6MW generator from a perpendicular source of power that's 40-50 Meters away might just be a bridge too far. The prospect of bearing failure or a broken shaft ripping the tower to pieces or destroying the generator would be significant. I also agree that hydraulic makes less economic sense comparred to current configuration. I think what we have now works relatively well, however, if someone has a better idea, let's give it a try! Maybe we'll see 20 MW off shore installations before this is all over. I also agree, the Europeans really deserve high-accolades for their work in this industry. Though I love my country, I no longer count on the US government or industry making intelligent decisions, regardless of venue.
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