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FACTBOX

How many m2 of collector area are installed?

85 collectors at 10.5 m2 (113 ft2 each)
= collector area of 892.5 m2 (9605 ft2)

Which type of collector was installed?

Gluatmugl GS 10.5 m2 flat plate collectors

Size of the tanks?

Buffer tank = 37.9 m2 (10,000 gal. U.S.)

Type of control system?

As with all SOLID installations, the visualization system allows access via an internet connection which is an important factor for system optimization and support.
11 Reader Comments
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1 of 11
May 27, 2009
You seem to be missing something from your "facts box" Jackie.
How much of this is being paid for with U.S. government collected, American taxdollars, even by way of local, state and, federal incentives?
It would be unbelievable if not one cent of American taxdollars did not go in to this project in one form or another.

The PV industry has been in business for about 30 years now give or take a decade, depending on which sector of the industry one is refering to.
All of this time billions of taxpayers dollars have been going in to the industry for; R&D, and government incentives to purchase and install the PV product. We are paying taxes and if we buy PV we can get some of those tax dollars back. Why PV?
Why not sports drink as well? Or, tennis shoes, snow mobiles? I know, why not sink billions of taxpayer dollars into and offer government incetives to purchase cow manure? Its renewable too.
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2 of 11
May 27, 2009
Yes, tax dollars are used to reduce the cost to the customer. The customer is taking on a risk that the plant will produce. This article could be telling us of a failure of solar to deliver the heat needed. Day one performance does not tell us the mid life performance or the end of life performance. It does not tell us the hours it actually produces heat and the hours the system is shut down, needing repair or the cost of the repair. So yes tax dollars have been provided. So long as the life cost information is freely available to the designers of the next solar heat project we will be getting value for those tax breaks. This plant is part of the 2.5% of potential users called innovator early adopters. That leave 97.5% of the customers that can gain value from the success and even failure of the early adopter. The 97.5% customer base is supplying the tax money in effect.
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3 of 11
May 27, 2009
In response to Thomas Schmidt:

You bring up a good point, specifically in terms of how tax dollars are allocated to renewable energy projects. I agree that it is imperative to spent tax dollars wisely, and to ensure that the projects that take advantage of state and federal funding ultimately benefit the tax-payer and larger community.

However, that said, I think it is important to keep this in mind:

Around 56% of your federal taxes are used to support the military. This money is essentially used to research, develop and create weapons, train soldiers, and wage war. Yes, it is often in our defense, but it is also often in the persuit and securitization of fossil fuel resources, which these renewable systems are meant to replace.

Now, what percentage of your federal income tax goes to renewable energy subsidies? 0.0044%

More of your money goes into just buying bullets for the military.

Feel free to choose your battles accordingly.
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4 of 11
May 27, 2009
Yes the Gov. has invested seed money. That is what Gov's are to suppose to do. Similar to the MRI.in 1930. By 1980-83 that investment was repaid 100's over.
Our country should not have to have German,Austrian,French and Spanish companies building and running our SOLAR and Nuclear facilities.
Our Gov.-[Dept.of Energy] and Universities should have done this for us.
When they don't our competitors take over.
Just as we should NOT send our $$$ for Petrol to our ENEMIES we should become ENERGY INDEPENDENT.
We can do this if we all get involved.
Everyone can do something.
You make the difference.
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5 of 11
May 27, 2009
Thank you to Mark Allen for the tip on SunDrum Solar. I found it very interesting indeed, especially that a Massachusetts new homeowner got checks the first two months of occupancy. That must mean there is a feed-in in his jurisdiction.
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6 of 11
May 27, 2009
Is this Gatorade ? If so, http://solarthermalworld.org/node/569 says
"Support from the federal solar tax credits and local support in Arizona in cooperation with Salt River Project (SRP), the local energy provider, allowed the installation of this landmark project which is one of the largest process heat installations worldwide today."
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7 of 11
May 27, 2009
I don't know if it's commercial yet, but I've seen a hybrid system that is a PV panel attached to a heat exchanger that circulates water. Seems ideal for industrial applications.
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8 of 11
@ Andrew: An important comparison to you arguement is how much fossil fuels are subsidized in this country. The estimates are between $15-30 billion per year (http://cleantech.com/news/554/oil-industry-subsidies-for-dummies and http://www.ucsusa.org/clean_vehicles/vehicle_impacts/cars_pickups_and_suvs/subsidizing-big-oil.html).
I'm not going to argue whether subsides in general are good or bad, but subsides for RE have been minuscule over the last decade relative to the subsidies for fossil fuels.
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9 of 11
May 28, 2009
Subsidies feed the tapeworms that squirm in D.C., making the beltway so much bigger than it ought to be. Credits that allow local people to keep some of the fruits of their labor are a different creature. We need to lobby those corporations who still have some real people as customers, way, way before they buy their personal government officials. After they have bought their harems of officials, the source of their pork gravy may be such that they cannot be influenced until the paper walls lining the trenches fall down or they die because their super-duper inter-species-compatible implanted porcine heart valves fail. Of course, there is always the possibility that the monopoly money won't be enough, and some of these guys may turn vegan. Oh, could I live to see that day!
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10 of 11
May 28, 2009
Thomas, perhaps you should learn more about the benefits to the public of government investment in energy sector v. tennis shoes or snowmobiles... Also research the concept of R and D.
I am curious as to what sports drink company this is. I understand this article is written with the renewable energy industry in mind but informing the reader as to what company is choosing to support renewable energy research and development may influence them as consumers. This could lead to increased sales for the company and smarter choices in regards to energy decisions in the future if it is leading to increased sales for them.
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11 of 11
May 29, 2009
Correction on my numbers above: 0.0044% should be changed to 0.044%, not that it makes much of a difference in this context! :D
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