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China's New Focus on Solar

By Jane Burgermeister
May 22, 2009   |   9 Comments

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1 of 9
May 27, 2009
I've always wondered why monocrystalline silica is so expensive. After all, it is just purified beach sand. Surly one could develop a continuous zone purification system using extremely clean focused solar energy with doping at the last melt stage and churn out meters per hour of silica to be sliced into the necessary wafers. What is the great expense in this process. This seems to be the stumbling block to getting solar panels down to the necessary $1.00US per watt, at which point they will sweep the world.
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2 of 9
May 27, 2009
China's government the first to supply solar power at just US $ 0.10 per kilowatt-hour (kWh).
the current global financial turmoil, forcing the government to take steps to "rebalance" the industry
China's government is now giving its home-grown industry a much-needed shot in the arm
To achieve their ambitious solar goals, Chinese companies are partnering with German ones.
However, China has a lot of catching up to do.
By way of comparison, 3,800 MW of solar capacity are estimated to have been installed in Germany in 2007.
Though the subsidies for 2009 are modest in scale at just US $60 million
That is enough to cover the entire production costs of solar modules in China, leaving only the installation costs to be met
Solar energy to power hospitals and schools and government buildings will get special incentives under the government scheme
rural households in remote regions will be helped to harness energy from the sun.
a fall in the price of polycrystalline silicon.

Isn't amazing how just taking a few statements out of text can create an intirely different impression? I didn't even try that hard to be convincing. The same thing can be done with the math. With the amount of constantly changing varibles suround the production of electricity from photovoltaics, $0.10 per KWh is pure speculation derived from averages derived from forecasting. I could take the exact same math but be less favorable and make the outcome show $0.25 per KWh. Get real people. Your selling a pipe dream and you know it. The really sad part is, that theres enough weak minded people out there so eager to give into the spin, that the industry in general is still making billions of dollars a year and still asking their respective governements for more money!

It would seem to me that the PV industry will never be able to stand on its own. It will always and forever need government (taxpayers) money.
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3 of 9
May 27, 2009
China's government the first to supply solar power at just US $ 0.10 per kilowatt-hour (kWh).
the current global financial turmoil, forcing the government to take steps to "rebalance" the industry
China's government is now giving its home-grown industry a much-needed shot in the arm
To achieve their ambitious solar goals, Chinese companies are partnering with German ones.
However, China has a lot of catching up to do.
By way of comparison, 3,800 MW of solar capacity are estimated to have been installed in Germany in 2007.
Though the subsidies for 2009 are modest in scale at just US $60 million
That is enough to cover the entire production costs of solar modules in China, leaving only the installation costs to be met
Solar energy to power hospitals and schools and government buildings will get special incentives under the government scheme
rural households in remote regions will be helped to harness energy from the sun.
a fall in the price of polycrystalline silicon.

Isn't amazing how just taking a few statements out of text can create an intirely different impression? I didn't even try that hard to be convincing. The same thing can be done with the math. With the amount of constantly changing varibles surrounding the production of electricity from photovoltaics, $0.10 per KWh is pure speculation derived from averages derived from forecasting. I could take the exact same math but be less favorable and make the outcome show $0.25 per KWh. Get real people. Your selling a pipe dream and you know it. The really sad part is, that theres enough weak minded people out there so eager to give into the spin, that the industry in general is still making billions of dollars a year and still asking their respective governements for more money!

It would seem to me that the PV industry will never be able to stand on its own. It will always and forever need/want government (taxpayers) money.
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4 of 9
May 27, 2009
The US is losing another renewable energy technology to Germany and China.
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5 of 9
May 27, 2009
How much of the sunlight is absorbed by air pollution on a typical day in Beijing? Perhaps, once solar panels are installed throughout China, the Chinese government will pay more attention to controlling air pollution.
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6 of 9
May 27, 2009
I think outsiders forget the Chinese government's power over right of way issues and grid priorities.Almost every other nation has enormous legal and financial problems getting right of way clearances.This single cost probably triples the cost of each and every renewable alternative.
In a recent Parliamentary move to avoid litigation the English tried to avoid local government protests and start nuclear plants in strategic locations around the country.
Renewable advocates know the utilities oppose them because they refuse to connect with existing grids owned by these companies.What is needed is a simpler more direct approach across the globe to right of way issues.
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Anonymous
May 28, 2009
WIth the cost of energy and labor in China, it is probably feasible that prices could approach $0.10/ kWh. With PPA's (power purchase agreements) in the US, after rebates, tax incentives, depreciation, and selling the Solar RECs (Renewable Energy Credits), it's realistic to get below $0.15/kWh, but that depends upon the state and how strong the market rates for the SRECs are. It's very expensive in the US to structure the contracts, deal with the leagl issues, etc., so our costs will always be higher.

William Hughes - Evergreen Solar already produces string ribbon solar cells, and I assume they use their own panels to provide substantial power for this process, but it still uses a large amount of energy to melt the "sand" and run the process, and I wouldn't expect them to ever be "off grid".

Thomas Schmidt - I would disagree on the solar industry being able to stand on their own --- it will happen, but we'll still need incentives for a while. With greenhouse gases "supposedly" leading to increased ocean sea levels, and air pollution contributing to health and environmental issues, and much of our oil coming from semi-friendly nations, I wouldn't be surprised to see the oil companies finding it easier and cheaper to become solar panel manufacturers than exploration, drilling, refinery, and distribution companies. It's a wonder that oil is as cheap as it is!

And fireofenergy -- energy is neither created nor destroyed, right? So we take the heat from the desert sun, heat some water to create steam, turn a turbine, generate electricity, then capture some waste heat, and create big cooling towers to create clouds in the desert? Then we have a water problem! Also, if we manufacture everything in China, they'll need the energy before we do, because installation jobs only last during the installation, while manufacturing jobs tend to be more permanent -- not a long-term solution for US success I'm afraid.
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8 of 9
June 3, 2009
Watching China's development in nuclear, aerospace as well as other technologies in the past 30 years, I believe they can do it. As one of the commentator said that the Chinese government can do things we can't in the U.S. There are no roadblocks, per se, companies/people do whatever the government wants them to do. The Chinese scientists and engineers are pretty smart too.
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9 of 9
July 3, 2009
China will want their own engineering firms to produce more revenue for its politicians.Furthermore,it is acutely aware of public relations since the building of the Three Gorges Dam created such an outcry.
Therefore, it should send its engineering students to European, Asian,Israeli,American,Canadian,and South African universities to learn the latest techniques for producing the cheapest methods.
There's no question the availability of Chinese solar power is enormous since the Gobi Desert is uninhabited and much of the population lives in a subtropical climate.Transmission issues can be overcome since they do not respect provincial rights.
The largest problem might be the demand created when railroads and automobiles shift toward electricity and away from coal generated power stations. Coal will be needed to produce far more steel,but the recent serious polution crises prompts the government to find clean coal solutions from these universities.
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