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Why Aren't More Geothermal Projects Moving Forward in California?

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1 of 8
February 4, 2009
Right on the money. Thank you.

Bureaucratic snafus are applicable to transmission lines as well and probably moreso.

Geothermal power is developed nearly exclusively near transmission lines which is like looking for your wallet where the light is good rather than where you lost it.

All that is without mentioning all manner of opposition from "environmentalists" and the problem of a hefty upfront capital investment requirement with a vast ignorance of the technology.

It's a wonder we have any geothermal power.

Best, Terry
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2 of 8
February 4, 2009
You're right.

But companies like Raser technologies (symbol RZ) get around the problem by producing Geothermal in nearby states like Utah, Nevada and Oregon and then sell it to California.

RZ is about to open their first geothermal plant of 10MW in Utah and guess who they're selling it to? Anaheim, CA.

Raser is a great story if they can open their plant. Because unlike other geothermal plants, they can create a plant in just 6 months.

That is light speed ahead of compared to how long other companies take to build a geothermal plant (3-5 years).

And a lot of that is, like you said, leases and permitting.

Keep up the articles on geothermal!
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3 of 8
February 5, 2009
I'm afraid any attempt to improve the bureaucratic process within BLM will have to wait. Right now they have their hands full undoing what little confidence the investing public has in Federal management by "reviewing" decisions made by the previous bureaucrats. In four or eight years, the next set of bureaucrats can "review" these bureaucrats' decisions. And so on and so forth ad nauseum.
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4 of 8
February 5, 2009
The situation in the Truckhaven field is a little more complicated than how Mr. Gawell has described the issues. While I admit that there is a significant level of interest in the area from off road vehicle recreationists, I believe that the potential impacts from geothermal leasing and potential development have been mitigated. The primary mitigation in this situation is to have the federal lessees join together in what is called a federal geothermal unit. By unitizing the land, exploration and subsequent development can proceed with far less impacts to the lands than if the three potential lessees at Truckhaven were allowed to develop their leases independantly of each other. What Mr. Gawell did not say is that one of the three current lease applicants has filed an appeal to, among other issues, challenge our authority to require unitization.

So here we are, while we try to minimize impacts to the land for everyone's benefit, it is one of the lease applicants who, in part, has stopped the leasing process until a judge rules on the merits of appeal. So in the meantime, the leasing process at Truckhaven is on hold. If the leasing decision was exempt from federal appeals, the leases would have been issued 5 months ago!

Perhaps a consideration should be that following an environmental review for a renewable project, a review that includes public comment/input at the initial scoping, the draft environmental document stage, and the final environmental document stages, the decision should be exempt from legal challenges...In this example, leasing would occur and development could proceed. Until then, we'll just have to wait for the court system to address the appeals to the decisions.
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5 of 8
February 6, 2009
The competing renewable energy venues have done a sales job on the public and investors. CSP (concentrated Solar Power), must obey the Carnot thermodynamic law which reveals a low net efficiency at low CSP collector temperatures. A "correction" employs molten salt thermal reservoirs, in part to overcome a sun which refuses to provide 24x7 radiation energy to an earthbound site. Too much complexity and cost. The push back / resistance from these and fossil/ nuclear interests is enormous. My company is intent in commercializing its high efficiency, low cost, made in USA powerblock (RET, or RET-PB) for copious and cheap geothermal power and can operate in low temperature differentials, and inferior sites. It will be economically viable and energy productive even in less geo-thermally active areas, or in cheaper installations. (RET can improve the efficiency in CSP, Solar Thermal ..., it is heated working fluid agnostic, but there is a gold ring out there that should be pursued), JR CEO Sannerprojects, Inc Sannerwind@gmail.com
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6 of 8
February 6, 2009
I agree Jay....and that the technology used in geothermal wells can be converted to use the sun's energy....whereby saving tons of cash from the drilling process....This process can use and store the heat energy for night operations...making it also a 24-7 mainline contributor.

http://my.nowpublic.com/world/new-energy-breakthrough-sunpress-c4h10-inert-elextrix-not-be-confused-solar-power......

Dominic
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7 of 8
February 9, 2009
Perhaps it is the unstable land out there. I've seen systems get ruined here in MA from ground shifting. Imagine what a good quake could do to a very expensive GT installation? Keep it small and Keep it simple.
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8 of 8
February 12, 2009
Open-looped Geothermal has many problems for electricity generation including emissions of hydrogen sulfide, ammonia, carbon dioxide and radon. This can also deplete the clean water resource and in the western states like California, now experiencing drought, will hopefully alert more people to this energy source's limitations.
http://www.energyjustice.net/geothermal/ has some further information.

Closed-Loop Geothermal heat pumps are the way to go.
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