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The US Utility-scale Solar Picture

By Graham Jesmer, Staff Writer
February 10, 2009   |   8 Comments

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"2008 was really a wake-up call that solar is scaling up and the utility's involvement in this process is crucial."

-- Julia Hamm, Executive Director, Solar Electric Power Association
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February 11, 2009
The claim about Sun Drum creating 50% increase per square meter is a bit misleading..this type of technology isn't creating more electricity, it's creating domestic hot water along with electricity from the PV...not quite the application for utility scale solar.
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February 11, 2009
The claim about Sun Drum creating 50% increase per square meter is a bit misleading..this type of technology isn't creating more electricity

BS, non-engineer

they are decreasing temperature during peak summer when temps are 55+ C on the panels, increasing voltage significantly, and thus increasing ELECTRICAL OUTPUT

Please, non-engineers, if you are going to make a SCIENTIFIC or FACTUAL ARGUMENT, BACK IT UP

otherwise, just clue in that you just have a "FEELING" about it

'cause THATS ALL YOU REALLY HAVE!

ENGINEERING AINT POLITICS!
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3 of 8
February 12, 2009
Solar thermal energy available in Taiwan is only through solar water heaters, because there are too many dusts in the air, while the prerequisite for applying concentratively solar thermal energy is that the sun light must radiate to the ground without diffusion. Otherwise, the solar energy resource in Taiwan is quite profusive. Another disvantage for using PV in Taiwan is that its porpulation is dense, so high buildings occupy most part of the artitectures. Fortunately, the IC industry in Taiwan is highly developed, so annual export of PV products boots our economic growth. We are looking foward a sustainable develop of solar energy not only in the US, but also globaly.
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February 12, 2009
Rick,

Cooling the PV will not result in a 50% increase in output electricity..
That's coming from a non-engineer, in fact I'm glad I'm not an engineer, just someone who knows a thing or two about the difference between PV and Solar Hot Water..
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February 12, 2009
From the book "Photovoltaic Systems" by Jim Dunlop P.E.and published by ATP comes this statement.
"For most types of PV systems, a high operating temperature significantly reduces voltage. Current increases with temperature, but only slightly,so the net result is a decrease in power and efficiency."

Mr Nuessle states in his comment:

"they are decreasing temperature during peak summer when temps are 55+ C on the panels, increasing voltage significantly, and thus increasing electrical output"
The word "significantly" is misleading and incorrect; <6% would be accurate.

According to NEC 2005 section 690.7 the open circuit voltage on a PV cell goes up when the temperature goes down. As an electrician and electrical inspector I have a feeling that this is true.

Now, I ain't no engineer or maybe I am just too ignorant to see the error of my information and or to interpret the clarity of his statement. Perhaps he will present some documentation for his loud OPINION.
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February 12, 2009
I don't honestly believe the big energy companies want to do solar and are dragging their feet - greenwashing as it is called. As a stockholder in both FPL and Duke Energy, they only have 2 divisions - nuclear and fossil fuels! There is no real solar initiative because they don't stand to make a "killing" on it. If they continue to try to make money "the old-fashioned" way, we will all be gone soon. There needs to be either a paradigm shift to people, planet, profit OR a grassroots projects that will minimize the importance of these for-profit-only non-entities.
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February 20, 2009
Deb Arnason,

Amen. You are exactly right about the solution to the problem.
Becoming a non-profit utility is not in their best interests.
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June 6, 2009
No, engineering ain't politics. And engineering ain't philosophy. Nor do we have to look far in Amerengineerica to see the world engineers and politicians have built. Dare I say, destroyed.
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