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Drill Baby Drill! For a Clean, Safe Energy Future

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1 of 19
February 19, 2009
I agree with Thomas but also believe that new methods need to be found for more productive deep drilling to where the rock is much hotter than 350 degrees. Then I think (please correct me if I am mistaken) not so much side drilling would have to be done and the heat source would last much longer. I think that effective drilling is the key to heat extraction.

Our govenment should wake up to the fact that Geothermal sources are as good as gold since energy is such a valuable commodity.

Geothermal Treasure

Let's drill deep down in the ground to extract the heat we've found,
It's been waiting our visit many years,
Come and help yourself to steam its what drives us in our dream,
To escape fossil burning's many fears.
Seven miles way down below let's begin the crustal show
For the energy is waiting for the day,
Send a pipeline to descend for the best results to end,
The demand for clean power today.

adrianakau2aol.com
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2 of 19
February 20, 2009
Are you saying to go into the Marcellus shale and use it for geothermal energy without extracting the gas? Because the fracturing is going to release it.

Or using the holes after the gas is taken out?

I don't see where it would be feasible to not take the gasf, but I am not a geologist.

Can existing oil and gas holes, like the ones in Texas, be used?
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3 of 19
February 20, 2009
I firmly believe that Geothermal power is the best answer to clean and plentiful power for the future. We need to learn more about this resource and increase our efficiency in extracting the energy. There are plenty of problems that need to be resolved in all aspects of this developing technology. I hope that TRIZ and Technical Innovation Center will be able to contribute to the successful development and implementation of the important energy source.
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4 of 19
February 20, 2009
The ultimate prize will go not to those who favor one solution to the exclusion of the others but to those who combine alternative solutions in new hybrid processes: Geothermal at (say) 350 deg. combined w/ the assistance of Concentrated Solar and Wind Assisted Pumping become a synergistic technology with the added benefit of some being able to partially utalize existing oil and gas "spent wells" and inplace grid interconnections. When renewable energy technologies stop the fractured Solar v. Wind (or pick your favorate) way of thinking quantum leaps can and will be made.

Multiple inputs -> combined/complimenting processes->multiple outputs
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5 of 19
February 20, 2009
Efficient geothermal is only useable in certain parts of the country. Very costly in others. There is a safe nuclear plant that centers our solar system that has largely untapped power. We have not nearly begun to tap the power of the sun for heating water and living space and commercial processes. It is decentralized and available to the multitudes without going through the grids profit structure and sophistry. I feel it would be far more beneficial than geothermal to pick this "low hanging fruit" first.
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6 of 19
February 20, 2009
Perhaps one could start by deepening existing oil wells until you got to hot rock. Would having a hole already half drilled result less cost and time? Gas and oil can always be separated from the water stream for a valuable by product.
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7 of 19
February 20, 2009
What return on investment can be expected from a geothermal plant?
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8 of 19
February 21, 2009
roi on geothermal heat pumps generally 30-60 %.
As for larger (electricity) plants take a look at Ormat technologies (ORA:NYSE). They build/operate geothermal plants worldwide, are vertically integrated (from drilling to ppa)
Despite current credit crises this stock doubles every 3- 4 years and even pays dividend. They have no problem attracting capital.

A more speculative play is Raser technologies (RZ) who use a modular united technologies system with a very fast payback. Their geothermal land leases (Oregon etc.) alone are worth a multiple of current share value! They recently successfully completed their first geothermal powerplant.

ALL these are low hanging fruits, medium temp. geothermal wells of which there are plenty.
But even deep EGS is a proven technology. Notwithstanding Google's efforts (it helps) the drilling technology for this (computer controlled pulsed, liquid nitrogen cooled, hydraulic drilling and vertical tunneling concepts for electr. prices of between 3-6 us$ cents/kwh) already exists but there are complex legal and political issues to be resolved. The geothermal sector would greatly benefit from technology licensing and sharing agreements (Raser and utx is a good start and an example), but remains heavily and bitterly divided, not unlike western society itself.

Meanwhile farmers and citizens in southwest CA face water shortages and no desalination plants to make up the difference in lost rainfall.

Thomas, thx for your continuing efforts.
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9 of 19
February 21, 2009
The amount we ever get from geothermal will be small in proportion to what we get from wind and solar. The only way to make wind and solar work is to increase transmission lines and add storage - in the form of pumped hydro-storage. Pumped hydro only needs a 200 foot hill to work, although it works best with about a 1,000 foot elevation. There are only a few places in the world that can get all their energy from geothermal, such as Iceland, but most, if not all places can get all of their energy from a combination of solar and wind power, backed up by pumped hydro-storage and supplemented by a global electrical grid.
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10 of 19
February 21, 2009
Mr. Blakeslee: Good article. You stated "Our current economic and environmental mess was caused by shortsightedness." NOT TRUE ! it is pure and unadulterated GREED by a few financial institutions. Wall Street is just a bunch of greedy "draculas". They will bleed you dry.
Iceland generates almost all of their electricity and heating with geothermal energy. However, they have elected to convert to the Solar-Hydrogen Economy. Back in 2000, their President stated that they would be the first to convert to this economy and show the way for the rest of the world.
Geothermal is a resource of limited extent. Yes, a few areas in the U.S. have good underground temperature profiles. Yellowstone nattional park is one of them where the steam comes to the surface, i.e. geysers. The Feds will not let a geothermal plant in the Park. But, by and large, geothermal is too expensive. A 24/7 solar-Stirling engine system coupled with hydrogen generation and conversion to electricity is the way to go. We are currently in the designing stage for such a 500 MWe solar-hydrogen power plant.
Warren Reynolds
Eco-Engineers, Inc.
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11 of 19
February 21, 2009
Know what they do with Natural Gas Wells that are depleted?
They fill them with concrete and weld on a cap.
Now isn't that a waste of a perfectly good hole?

Since the hole is one of the single biggest expenses for setting up a geo-plant why aren't we using the holes that already exist?
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12 of 19
February 21, 2009
Do we understand the system of aquifers and plate techtonics well enough to know we're not messing up a system?

Why go through all that digging when the sun shines and the wind blows on every building? We simply want to heat water from 50 to 140 degrees for gosh sake!

And why invest in more inherently monopolistic technology? It's corrosive to the American mindset, all that dependencia....
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13 of 19
February 22, 2009
--------"Since the hole is one of the single biggest expenses for setting up a geo-plant why aren't we using the holes that already exist?"--------

UT did a survey of the geothermal potential of 600,000 abandoned oil wells in 11 west Texas counties and estimated around 5,000 MW of potential geothermal power----wells already drilled.

It seems to me that this is something that should be looked into on a wider scale.
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14 of 19
February 22, 2009
A few additions--UTC has reengineered an old lower boiling point steam cycle to produce modular utility scale steam generated elec. at 160 to 180 degrees F. I think Raser uses them. They can use that hot water from the 600,000 old wells in Texas. They already have some there. To Chris #9 and Warren #10, you are missing something. Above boiling temps. are available in the earth's crust over most of the earth at 5,000 to 10,000 feet, shallower in the western US and deeper in the eastern US. The Germans are commercializing this at 3 to 10 megawatts with district residential heating as a secondary benefit. Shallow geothermal via ground source heat pumps is growing rapidly. Vertical bores usually at around 200 to 300 feet are a geothermal resource. Many systems use horizontal loops or ponds, lakes or rivers as a resource, these are solar thermal. Air to air heat pumps are also growing rapidly. Fairly new technology makes them effective year round . Mitsubishi, Fujitsu and Hallowell all make systems that are effective to 0 degrees F or well below. These all have huge potential here in the northeast with our old dense housing stock. These are also solar thermal. Heat pumps are the cheapest form of heating and cooling in most markets.
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15 of 19
February 23, 2009
Hi All:

All the technologies are already here to solve the bulk of our energy problems. Money is the issue, pure and simple. Wide spread solar thermal would reduce the need for all forms of conventional energy. Much more stringent insulation standards as well are needed. Everything is already here. Its just about the money... so don't beat yourselves up....

.....Bill
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16 of 19
February 23, 2009
W Blakeslee is on target. My company is in the process of commercializing EGS systems that are considerably less expensive end-to-end: in drilling, extracting usable heat, and thermo-mechanical to electricity conversion. Our high efficiency, low cost thermo-mechanical engine (RET), extends the geothermal envelop in both large and small scale sites. That is a major breakthrough, e.g., bringing smaller, energy producing geothermal wells closer to the market. However, it is rough sledding regarding investment beta capital, but, our economic drought will end. (and we then see there was /is ample fossil fuel for decades, e.g., CNG, not that we want that as our energy stock of first choice), The problem has never been the technology, but the push back, vested interests, and a lot of pHd's with sneakers sprinting for the investment oxygen! It is a sellers market for EGS, what is their need to reduce their pricing? While 100% of US energy can be met within 7 years using a concerted EGS project, it won't happen, because that's the way markets work. We will in essence trade one cartel for another, as the cost of a barrel of kilowatts will be "value priced". That means, like it or not, too high. Our EGS site projects profitable $.05 - $.03/kWh long term PPA sales. We hope that steeply discounted electricity will reach the consumers, but that's another uphill battle.
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17 of 19
February 24, 2009
When is somebody going to research the long term effects on cooling the earth's crust? Our short sightedness got us into to this energy / environement / resource mess in the first place. And if we don't study the long term consequences of geothermal before it becomes a prevalent energy source, we are setting ourselves up for failure once again.
So for all of you geologists and earth scientists out there, please consider making this topic of research. Does anyone have any additional information on this topic?

Matt
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18 of 19
February 25, 2009
To Matt--check the MIT paper --Jefferson Tester ed.
(Testor?) The core earth heat resource is unbelievably vast--remember most of the core is molten. I'm pretty sure the paper covers this.
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19 of 19
April 27, 2010
Great news! Schlumberger just bought GeothermEx, which means they will be putting their excellent drilling knowledge to work on geothermal. The same creativity that opened up tight shale gas will now be applied to geothermal. drilling. Hooray!
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