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Times that Try Men's Souls, but Shouldn't

By Chris Stimpson, Solar Nation
November 20, 2008   |   7 Comments

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1 of 7
November 21, 2008
Something Obama will have to consider is the banks and their effect on our society. It was ironic that they caused their own demise by their policies of pushing more and more credit on us in the hopes of making more and more profits. Talk about a bunch of Mafia-style money sharks. The result, fortunatily has been their rapid demise. Pushing more and more credit on the public gets us to buy more and more "things" that we really don't need and that the world can't afford. More things need more oil to manufacture them, more wood, more minerals and more food to make us fatter and less healthy and more of a drain on the medical services. And lets not forget more garbage and pollution. The powers that be are working flat out to get us back into growth mode so that they can once more skim off their percentage. If they achieve a modest 2% that is a doubling of our economy in 35 years with a doubling of our footprint. Unfortunately the world isn't big enough for us to double the water we use, the forests we cut down and the garbage, pollution and Carbon dioxide we spew out. If you think we are suffering under the present economic hickup, wait and see what happens when we collapse our ecology upon which we all depend whether we realize it or not. At some point and it better be soon, we are going to have to learn to live in a not-growing economy.
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2 of 7
November 23, 2008
Mr Stimson,

If you make policy, they will come.

From my view the financial fuel that drives the R&D and manufacturing of renewable energy companies are Venture Capitalists (VC) and Angel Investors (AI). If the solar community wants funding then they need Washington to set policy that accelerates the adoption of renewable energy sources like solar. If VC and AI community become aware of such policies they will be on the hunt to invest.

For me the most interesting thing about the election was the diversity of Obama's voter base. I was most impressed with the strength of the youth vote. Anyone in politics including congress should see this as a potential game changer. Lobbyists have traditionally helped politicians with campaign contributions. That is, legally helped them, but I won't go into that here. These contributions are used to get their message out through various media. Now, add diversity into the equation. Getting your message out is much harder since you need one message that appeals to a diverse audience.

Renewable energy has such an appeal:

Renewable energy creates jobs – This hits a large part of the voter base. That is, working folk or unemployed want-to-be working folk

Renewable energy is good for the environment – Strong appeal for most voters. Very strong younger voters

Renewable energy diminishes the need for foreign oil- This appeals to people afraid of Islamic Extremists and people who don't want to see so much money go off shore.

There is more to each one of these points when you break them down, but I want to be as short as possible.

The bottom line is, we can work together to get a wide cross section of voters to clearly understand the benefits and importance of renewable energy. If the voter base is convinced of the importance then politicians that do not have a clear stand on a renewable energy favorable policy will have more risk at the polls.

-Fred Loeb
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3 of 7
November 23, 2008
Here is something for you to try. From now on, everytime you read, hear, write, or say the word "energy", instead use the words illeagel drugs.
Sounds rediculous right?
This is how rediculous you all sound to me.
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4 of 7
November 23, 2008
Pssst! Hey man, you want to score some energy man?
I got some good stuff over here man. Its Mother nature man. This energy will make you fly high man, like a bird. So, what do you say man? Want to buy some man?

RE is enabling an addiction.

Just say no! to energy.
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5 of 7
November 23, 2008
Thomas,

I don't get your point when you say " RE is enabling an addiction". We are all "addicted" to energy the same way we are "addicted" to air and water.

Perhaps you have some wisdom to share with ridiculous people like me.

How do we end our addiction?
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6 of 7
November 24, 2008
Some good points Fred...

As we near a critical mass (while enduring minor set-backs from mindsets such as Mr. Schmidt's), the population as a whole (policy makers, business owners, educators and followers) will catalyze renewables into their right place in existence.

While we are seeing the mere onset of these "new" practices, the real impact will be realized by our children, grandchildren, etc. When science fiction begins to bridge the gap with fact :)
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November 27, 2008
Very well put, Chris, and a great article.

The dollar is still, and always will be king, and branding new energy policy as an investment in the future will be largely rejected by the public, but if it is seen as an economic engine that will provide jobs, even if they are less paying jobs ... will be better than no jobs at all.

The thing is that providing auto-workers (for example) assembly line jobs in a solar cell plant with incomes comparable to what the auto-union guaranteed is simply untenable. In order to be cheap enough to create damnd, solar PV has to be produced on a super massive scale at rock bottom prices.

More to the point ... how to pay for these new positions. New Jersey CORE program proved that tax rebates are a bad idea. The future is in SRECs, which means gov't mandates for utilities to adopt solar must be aggressive and universal. This, of course, will mean energy prices will go up dramatically, further hurting the economy, but the alternative is far worse: sky high unemployment and energy prices that will reach similar levels anyway after a long period of unemployment.

Crucial above all however is driving the new energy engine on carbon taxes ... specifically on Oil. OPEC tested the waters and discovered something disturbing: unless they keep prices low we will completely cut them out of the picture. We're still the engineering and innovation powerhouse in the world (though just barely, and quickly loosing that title), and that's why oil is $50/barrel and bound to go lower as we further develop an electrified economy. The price needs to stay at $100/barrel or higher to allow renewables to flourish - the cost difference, of course, coming from carbon taxes on incoming fossil fuels.
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