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1 of 10
October 3, 2008
Thanks for this useful and interesting article.

Using concentrating solar power (CSP), less than 1% of the world's deserts could generate as much electricity as the world is using. It is feasible and economic to transmit solar electricity for 3000 km or more via highly-efficient HVDC transmission lines, and 90% of the world's population lives within 2700 km of a desert.

Further information about CSP and the 'DESERTEC' concept developed by the TREC international network of scientists and engineers may be found at:

http://www.desertec.org/

and

http://www.trec-uk.org.uk/
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2 of 10
October 3, 2008
Have any of the proposed California plants actually started construction? Many agreements have been signed, but..?

My understanding is that many of the proposed California plants are planned for BLM land, and that BLM is dragging their feet on approvals.
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3 of 10
October 3, 2008
Solar thermal certainly has much potential. Why should we get behind the huge power company developments to make electricity that they will sell to the public. Their zeal for profits will propel the development on it's own, won't it? Unless, of course, investors are being called in.
Where is the sounding board for small scale solar thermal? It has more potential to save energy dollars than all other solar or renewable venues. The money spent on heating water and living spaces is more than all other domestic home outlays, other than the cost of home construction itself, yet there is little aid for it. Could it be that it is merely self effacing and too obvious. Where is the government plan for the one technology that could replace a far greater share of revenue than all the sparkey and saleable energies that fund the corrupted political coffers currently.
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4 of 10
October 3, 2008
In DOE article:

http://www.energy.gov/news/6620.htm

"The Nuclear Industry is asking the US Department of Energy (DOE) to provide loan guarantees in the amount of $122 billion, which significantly exceeds the $18.5 billion in loan guarantees available under the June 30, 2008 Nuclear Power Facilities solicitation. The aggregate estimated construction cost of 14 projects is $188 billion. If all projects are constructed, they would add 28,800 megawatts."


How much energy could be generated from Solar with a $100 Billion investment?

For Wind it's:

At 2007 Rates, in 10 years the US could install 10 x 5255 MW = 52,550 MW or 52 Gigawatt of Wind Power Capacity

-versus-

the Nuclear Industry's plan for 28,800 MW or 28.8 Gigawatt at a cost of $188 Billion which includes $122 Billion of Public Taxpayer Loan guarantees.

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In the Renewable Energy World article: "Record Growth for Wind: What Comes Next?"

http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/story?id=53436

"The US installed 5244 MW (Wind) in 2007, more than double the 2006 figure and increasing total capacity by 45%. "

"Any forecast for the US market will depend significantly on whether the production tax credit (PTC) gets renewed. "

"overall value to the global wind turbine market at around $300 billion over the next five years."

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Comment
5 of 10
October 6, 2008
The Middle East region is considered one of the most CSP promising areas.
I am just concern if someone have a brief figure about how much saving would be, by solarizing one of the CC gas fired steam turbine - say 100 MW.
Thanks in advance
Y SKAF
Comment
6 of 10
October 7, 2008
Scientific and Technical Advisory Panel in GEF recommended solar thermal power technology as one of the most significant option having cost reduction potential and high demand from countries in the world's solar belt to convert solar radiation into electricity which has been operationally proven in California since 1980s.
Four solar thermal projects ISCC in India, Egypt, Mexico and Morocco entered the GEF CSP portfolio with a grant volume of $194.2 million. All these projects encountered significant delays. However an attempt by Indian project in 2003 inviting bids remained unsuccessful.
Issues like Integration of Solar heat into combined cycle power plant (Fossil fuel), limited numbers of experienced EPC contractors, skyrocketing gas pricing and solar share in the range of 8 to 10 % of total generation on ISCC concept resulted into unfavorable techno economic review.
The improved parabolic trough technology with Solar Thermal Storage resulted operation of the plant during non-solar periods when it's needed most. As a result, thermal energy storage (TES) allows solar plants to achieve higher annual efficiencies up to +50%.
The work on 3 * 50 MW Solar power plants at Andasol in Spain with storage is progressing.
Indian site studies at Mathania show that sites in the western Rajasthan sun belt have a DNI 2250kwh/m2/year and low slope (<1%).
The capital cost of modern 50 MW plant with storage of 6 to 8 hours at Mathania could be INR 14/MW. The CSP Technology with 6 to 8 hours of Solar Thermal Storage could therefore be applied to all the Four Projects planned in the Sun Belt by GEF.
The authorities in GEF, GOI and solar communities world over may like to rework and review these projects for implementation with regulatory and financial support including feed in tariff as may be felt essential for techno economic viability.
GOPAL SOMANI
Phone 91 9414113199
e mail; somani_gopallal@yahoo.co.in
Comment
7 of 10
October 10, 2008
Here's a CSP idea:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfUMuakpgrY

Only 5¢ per Kw-Hr....and 24/7 power.
Comment
8 of 10
October 27, 2008
Currently Concentrating Solar thermal Power (CSP) is a prime choice in developing an affordable, feasible, global energy source that can be a substitute for fossil fuels in the sun belts around the world. CSP technologies are the least-cost option for energy and water security in Middle East and North Africa (MENA). The main concepts used in CSP technologies are parabolic troughs, solar towers, or dish/engine systems, which vary according to the concentration devices, energy conversion methods, storage options and other design variables. Thanks to storage systems, the plant can keep working at a constant load. With high performance and low electricity production costs, the outlook for parabolic trough power plants is very good. Within the MENA-CSP study, Integrated Gas turbine Solar Power Plant (IGSPP) play the major role in the long-term energy supply, because with their capability of thermal energy storage and of solar/fossil hybrid operation can provide firm capacity and thus are a key element for grid stabilization and power security in such a well-balanced electricity mix. The IGSPP offers a number of potential advantages over conventional Solar thermal power plants and represents an innovative way to reduce cost and improve the overall solar-to-electric efficiency. Also, the IGSPP will allow for a flexible transition from the present Combined Cycle power Plants (CCP) based on fossil fuels to a future plants based to a large extend on solar energy . It is also important to note that, according to the World Bank, the expected evolution of total electricity costs is that they will drop to 8 to 7 € cents/kW.h in the medium term (100 MWe Rankine-cycle plant or 100 Mwe Integrated Solar CCP, both with storage) and to 5 € cents/kW.h in the long term (200 MWe Rankine-cycle plant with storage) for high insolation sites with an annual direct normal solar radiation of more than 2800 kW.h/m2.
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9 of 10
November 26, 2008
Although I fully appreciate the many advantages of Concentrating Solar thermal Power (CSP), I firmly believe that Solar energy generation at a Levelized Cost of Energy, competitive with traditional fossil fuel sources, can be achieved these days with concentrated photovoltaic (CPV) technology.
Leading concentrator photovoltaic (CPV) technology, which combines high-efficiency Solar cells (approaching 40%) and advanced optics, can provide Solar energy solutions which are scalable, dependable and capable of delivering clean, low-cost, renewable energy.
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10 of 10
December 17, 2008
Perhaps things can be a lot cheaper and simpler if we don't bother to concentrate the sun. Solar ponds can absorb the sun's heat directly and store it in a brine layer. A low boiling point liquid runs the turbine generator. Ormat built a successful plant in 1983
http://www2.technion.ac.il/~ises/papers/IsraelSectionISESfinal.pdf
Like many alternative energy projects, it was abandoned when cheap oil returned.

The film link in Comment 9 should be compared with this more straightforward approach.
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