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Practical Tools To Speed Up the Transition Away from Petroleum

By Charles Cresson Wood, Management Consultant
July 7, 2008   |   21 Comments

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1 of 21
July 7, 2008
Mr. Wirth makes a semi-valid point. But, I see no ideas in his comment. We all know it "will be difficult". But the thing is, IT MUST BE DONE!
Conservation is not the ONLY thing we must do; but IT MUST BE DONE!
Finding other methods of energy generation can be a major challenge; but IT MUST BE DONE!
We've done many extremely difficult things before. Look at what happened when a couple scientists found a hole over the south pole. The entire world jumped into overdrive, and found alternatives. It can be done.
And with the future of our species at stake, IT MUST BE DONE!
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2 of 21
July 7, 2008
It will be very difficult to develop renewables.

Global oil production is now declining, from 85 million barrels per day to 60 million barrels per day by 2015. At the same time demand will increase 14%. This is like a 45% drop in 7 years. No one can reverse this trend, nor can we conserve our way out of this catastrophe. Because the demand for oil is so high, it will always be higher than production; thus the depletion rate will continue until all recoverable oil is extracted.

We are facing the collapse of the highways that depend on diesel trucks for maintenance of bridges, cleaning culverts to avoid road washouts, snow plowing, roadbed and surface repair. When the highways fail, so will the power grid, as highways carry the parts, transformers, steel for pylons, and high tension cables, all from far away. With the highways out, there will be no food coming in from "outside," and without the power grid virtually nothing works, including home heating, pumping of gasoline and diesel, airports, communications, and automated systems.

This is documented in a free 48 page report that can be downloaded, website posted, distributed, and emailed: http://www.peakoilassociates.com/POAnalysis.html
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3 of 21
July 8, 2008
Charles, we'll never get close with liquid fuels. We have had a ~10X increase in the cost of fuel and you're proposing ~1.3X solutions. You'd get thrown out on your ear in Silicon Valley for such timidity. Incremental change was an option years ago, not now. We need radical change.

The USA uses 1/4 of it's energy in transport. But the car is basically 1% efficient (1 ton to move a person = 10%; well-to-wheel = 10%; 10%*10% = 1%). We can live better in the 21st century with a small fraction of the energy we use today. Read on.

Clifford, I read your report. I agree that we urgency need better data on solar EROEI. The analysis is hard, but don't walk away from the heavy lifting. I have done it and can help you with the math.

A poll of Peak Oil Pundits would show 90% agree with your sweeping generalizations. The insistent, bleak message satisfies some primal urge. Get over it and help shoulder the load...

You're right and wrong on 2 counts:

1. Right: There will be serious disruptions. Duh.
2. You're wrong about irreversible economic depression: We don't need to fill the energy gap. We need to fill the ingenuity gap. For example, podcars will be >1000X safer, >1000X less CO2, 5X less cost, 10X less energy than cars. Those who implement podcars (Sweden) will live better beyond oil, www.solarevolution.com/prt/sweden/. Lighting same difference: LED's are ~5X better than incandescent. Building loads, same difference: www.architecture2030.org/. Computers, same difference: My computer uses 3X less energy than most and is equally or more powerful. Refrigeration, same difference: My frig uses < 100 kWh/year, 3X better than the most efficient on the commercial market. (It runs on one solar panel. Energy Star frigs use a barrel of oil equivalent per year.)

3. Right, we need to do C-EROEI.
4. Wrong about solar EROEI, which is good and improving rapidly, especially thin film, which your sources didn't consider. I can help you next time.
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4 of 21
July 9, 2008
Please Don't scare the pants off people. They do not think straight when they are naked. Start and look for solutions to the problem and you will come up with many answers.
My answer is hydrogen stripping the electrons from it via a fuel cell, a clean and efficient way of using this fuel.
Stay positive and get rid of all your negative thoughts, you might not save the world but you will feel better.

Mike H. founder HYDROGENHEADS
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5 of 21
July 9, 2008
Many of the contributors to these Energy forums produce some wonderful inovative ideas which deserve high merit and in a perfect world we would not have an energy crisis on our hands as we do today if these people and their ideas were acted upon:

However, the sad fact is that starting from the top and working our way down the list , you will come up against many brick walls built by our very own political popinjays who have their own agendas, not to mention favours to fullfill to those who corruptly pay for services rendered, namely the oil consortiums and magnets, but there are others with vested interests who want to use up the very last drop of oil before they even contemplate inovative changes to our energy needs:

I kid you not when I say------Get rid of the corruption and the problems can be solved at speed.
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6 of 21
July 9, 2008
The article is good. and we should do this now and we should make the changes as fast as possible to SOLAR and WIND generated energy to power everything. IT an be done. IT is a matter of scale.

Here is an out of the box suggestion which falls on deaf ears. The problem is "PEOPLE".. population growth is over the limit that the planet can support.. Yes it is a matter of survival. The country that embrasses renewable energy and does away with OIL will survive.

So why not a movement for population control in the USA. Remove tax credits for anyone having more than 2 child. CLOSE the borders. Push qualiity of life and not consumption. The present system of Capitlaism will not stand for negatvie growth of the population. Growth is "making more stuff for folks that don' need it".. WE need a new model for business in the future. NOTbased on consumption but on production of enegy for survival of the few in the future.

Global warming will take it toll on the shores of all countries. IT will happen. we can't slow or stop the process that started over 100 years ago.

It is pure survial going into the the 2nd half of this century. OIL will be NOT there and we must have NEW renewable energy systems in place by 2075 or we will have chaos on the planet.
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7 of 21
July 9, 2008
"&hellip;There are in fact eleven commercially available alternative fuels that can substitute for petroleum-based fuels. These include electricity, hydrogen, ethanol, butanol, biodiesel, straight vegetable oil, dimethyl either, biomethane, propane, natural gas, and synthetic liquid fuel&hellip;."

But, if those fuels have a worse environmental impact than fossil fuels, then they should not be used. Go here to see a list of such fuels and their impact on the environment: http://www.theoildrum.com/node/2976

"&hellip;The transition to alternatives can also be accomplished with many existing management tools and techniques&hellip;"

Keeping in mind that if the alternative fuel is worse for the environment overall than its equivalent fossil fuel, said transition should not occur.

"&hellip;It is time that we all confronted the myth that it is too difficult, too costly or somehow impractical to convert to alternative fuels. We have the alternative fuel vehicle technology, we have the transition tools and techniques, now we just need the management awareness and commitment to seriously begin the transition process within business firms, government agencies and non-profit organizations&hellip;".

The above concluding remarks suggest this post's real goal is to promote biofuels. Biodiesel is selling for $6 a gallon in my neighborhood. Biofuels will not be less expensive than fossil fuels. Alternative fuel vehicle technology consists of 1) the century old diesel engine and 2) gasoline engines retrofitted with special rubber hoses so they can burn moonshine. We need to do a lot better than this. Crop based biofuels are exacerbating hunger, biodiversity loss and global warming. Government support for them was misdirected and should be "rapidly" abandoned.
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8 of 21
July 9, 2008
By using efficiency gains instead of crop based biofuels, we pulled this off without raising the price of food or destroying a single grassland or forest carbon sink. Today's commercially produced biofuels have a negative net gain, not a positive one. The more crop based biofuels used the worse global warming gets as two recent papers in Science, one in The Journal of Atmospheric Chemistry and Physics, and one in the Journal of Conservation Biology all demonstrate. We are also in the throes of the sixth extinction event and these fuels are accelerating it.

"&hellip;It is human nature to resist change when such a change involves anything else but known and desired results &hellip;"

Being the alternative fuels management consultant with Post-Petroleum Transportation, this is also human nature:

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon him not understanding." --Upton Sinclair

"&hellip;it is clear that the supply of oil cannot any longer keep up with the demand&hellip;"

True, so cut demand via efficiency gains.

"&hellip;we must get off of oil and we must do this rapidly..."

We just devoted an area the size of Indiana to put ethanol into our gas tanks, increasing liquid fuel supplies a mere 2%. Soy biodiesel would have sucked up an area the size of Indians, Ohio, Illinois, and part of Kentucky. Algae and cellulosic fuels are lab experiments. Biofuels are physically incapable of getting us completely off oil in the foreseeable future, not to mention they are making the environmental crisis worse. By doing what my family did, the need to do so "rapidly" also goes away.

"&hellip;moving from oil to alternatives will be forced and rapid&hellip;"

The transition from wood to coal was forced and rapid. Coal did not transition to oil. Coal is still causing most global warming. Oil is mostly for transport. It replaced biofueled horses, and good thing it did.
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9 of 21
July 9, 2008
"&hellip;We must be pushing conservation of petroleum-based fuels, we must be increasing the efficiency of vehicles still using petroleum-based fuels and we must also be rapidly transitioning to alternative fuels&hellip;."

I have looked in vain for any evidence that we must rapidly transition to alternative transportation fuels (biofuels). This is not a fact but a "belief" propagated by biofuel proponents, of which you are one (alternative fuels management consultant with Post-Petroleum Transportation). Efficiency is what creates conservation. So, you can also drop conservation from the list because it is redundant. The rush is to increase efficiency and that alone will give us all the breathing room we need. For example, cut oil use in half and you will double the amount of oil left in the ground, stretching a 50-year supply to 100 years, more than enough time to electrify transport via sustainable technology and to find environmentally non-destructive forms of liquid fuels.

Case in point. By simply trading a five person hatchback that got 24 mpg for one that gets 48 mpg my family cut fuel costs and CO2 emissions in half. That is a 50% reduction without sacrifice of any kind. By using a hybrid electric bike with or without a trailer for single occupant trips in town we keep our other car parked for days or weeks at a time, reducing our total oil for transport use 80% ( http://youtube.com/watch?v=lV4FxzprGfg ).
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10 of 21
July 9, 2008
The most valuable dollar is the one we do not need to spend. Again-little mention of how solar thermal, the energy from the ONLY SAFE nuclear plant 93,000,000 miles away, can AVOID spending money and energy to heat: water for washing, home heating, processes, hospitals and schools, etc., etc.
It's an easily done and efficient conversion of solar energy to heat. There are many small companies making many types, sizes, and brands of solar thermal collection devices being sold. No huge corporations,(well, kinda. They're coming), therefore, to profit in its inception, and so, no plethora of lobbyists and spokespeople pushing the cart thru the halls of congress, etc. Solar thermal is far more efficient than PV or wind power electric and means that far less electricity is needed! Is something wrong with this perspective? Send me a check!.
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11 of 21
July 9, 2008
So far the USA Govt has demonstrated that the peak oil crisis is deniable.
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12 of 21
July 9, 2008
wheres schmidt?
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13 of 21
July 9, 2008
The only practical chance we have is to have our current and incoming politicians to readily admit that we cause most of the global warming now and that we must take new direction to change such BS.

Being "leaders of the free world" isn't gonna mean too much for too much longer if we don't concentrate on this one overriding concern.

Cars produce ~ 30% and buildings contribute another ~70% of our CO2's today. We have "all of the interfacing" technology to get the "Manhattan Project" started. "We can build lean and drive clean" (hey,...that was good).

We must not quibble about who did what, and treat this like now with all assumable haste and discipline as if we were being invaded by aliens; even beyond invading each other!

But, I'm just a guy working for $17 a hour after (5) years of college - what do I know?? Good thing I don't have kids, I'd be at the soup kitchen for sure.

My country is failing me, and it's worse for the non-educated people out there for sure all over America.

Our upcoming "Manhattan Project" will produce jobs, wealth, stability, hope, and economic choices yet unfathomable. Let's stop building Burger Kings and McDonald's franchises for the "already rich" and get moving on retooling Detroit and Coal burning plants for sustainables.

There is no such animal as a "clean coal plant",...period. Study, read, understand. Americans are not stupid, they're just trying to feed their' families with both parents working two jobs.

If your rich,....get richer and more powerful by buying into Green Franchises and investing in with Green Technology; you have a huge part to play by choice if not by morality. Study green technologies. Wind power and Geothermal investments are huge winners today.

I myself am trying to find technical work on a wind farm or with a large wind company. Can u help here?!

Anyone out there hiring for roving wind power technicians; contact:
Frank : supplemed@verizon.net

Best,..
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14 of 21
July 9, 2008
Here is a proposal that might solve the world's oil crisis and the U.S. balance of trade & balance of payment deficits.

Two of the world's biggest battery companies (one being Toshiba & the other being one of the 2 companies GM is evaluating for the battery of the Chevy Volt, I think I read it was CPI/LG Chemical) are now claiming that they can produce batteries with 5 minute recharge time using 110 volt/240 volt standard electricity that can allow a car to travel 300 miles on a single charge (such a distance probably would require several batteries).

If this is true, the world needs to mandate that EVERY GASOLINE powered car & truck built from now on be plug-in vehicles capable of at least 40 miles on a plug in charge. (If batteries can go 300 miles on a 5 minute plug in, we really don't need the gasoline engine at all.) The fuel cost of electric vehicles are 2 cents per mile versus 17 cents a mile for cars powered by gasoline at $3.00 per gallon. (I got that price per mile info from a Congressional energy crisis hearing chaired by Rep Markey of Massachusetts on June 12th, 2008 that was aired on CNN's live daily internet video feeds).

We need to require all future vehicles to list on the EPA sticker both the distance the vehicle can travel on a single plug-in battery charge (at 70 mph) and also the life expectancy of the car's battery. We probably should also make battery replacement easy enough for customers to do it (like a tire change).

There are 4 technologies I can think of that don't require ANY imported oil or biofuels: all electric vehicles, compressed air vehicles, CNG vehicles, and hydrogen fuel cell vehicles. All are viable alternatives to gasoline powered vehicles.

Hopefully what I have read is true & the entire world acts on mandating plug-in hybrids/other alternative fuel cars & trucks immediately!
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15 of 21
July 9, 2008
I see massive shifts in energy use from petroleum and developing cars (smaal ones like nano) which will run on electricity. Also massive development of city transportation systems based on metro.Especially in India!
Once the technology picks upo there is no stopping . Other technology that is of immense possibilities is the latest development on Solar PV cells which use advanced techniques in cells and produce electricity at five cents. per Kw.
Gas finds are increasing by the day but there is not enough technical resources and people to take it out. Gas grids across nations would be the next big development as getting it cheaper to the consumer would be the main focus. Coal is here to stay for next 60-70 years by that time I think we could be mining the energy resource from Moon ( Which I think People have already heard )
From now onwards oil prices will fall continivously because people are the final chooser of price. Except perhaps the oil Sheikhs, no one is interested in these prices. I think also speculators, who keep talking about higher and higher prices.Watch out where they are one year from now!
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16 of 21
July 10, 2008
Michael Halpin Commented-------we can make hydrogen by hydrolysis using that free ball of hydrogen energy that pops up over the horizon every morning.

I could not agree more: Hydrogen is the answer to all our energy needs:
Full and total comittment must be given to solve the present uneconomical methods of Hydrogen extraction:

I wouldn't mind betting that someone out there already has the answer:
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17 of 21
July 10, 2008
George. Petrol does not exist freely in nature but it has not stopped us using it and polluting the planet. The people living in the major cities of the world are gasping for breath. What will we use when we run out of the feedstock?

We can not make petrol out of water but we can make hydrogen by hydrolysis using that free ball of hydrogen energy that pops up over the horizon every morning. Just one of the many ways we can produce the gas.

We have a few technical problems to iron out before we become a fully fledged hydrogen economy but as we do the research they are becoming less and less .Thank God we have the best brains and companies looking for solutions to our energy and pollution problems. They are not sitting on their hands waiting for the lights to go out or to die of lung failure.

Mike H.
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18 of 21
July 10, 2008
For Gordon Mill ("I kid you not when I say------Get rid of the corruption and the problems can be solved at speed.")

Don't hold your breath. A complete changing of the guard in Washington will simply usher in yet another, albeit different band of brigands.

For Michael Halpin (My answer is hydrogen stripping the electrons from it via a fuel cell, a clean and efficient way of using this fuel.)

Hydrogen does not exist freely in nature, and has to be extracted. Currently, the major methods include hydrolysis, and stripping of hydrogen from natural gas. Both methods are energy intense; factor in those processes, and "clean hydrogen" is notably less so. Moreover, the latter method simply accelerates the exhaustion of finite supplies of a genuinely wonderful fuel.
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19 of 21
July 11, 2008
Michael: "We have a few technical problems to iron out before we become a fully fledged hydrogen economy......."

No kidding. And as a consequence of which, commercial (retail) hydrogen for transportation remains a long way off. So much so that it more closely resembles "cold fusion": another forty years out. Unfortunately, GW issues aside, the national security and economic issues won't wait that long.

I must concur with the author's comments at 19 above with regard to EVs and PIHVs. Whereas an entirely new and costly energy infrastructure will be necessary to support retail hydrogen at your freindly neighborhood
"gas 'n go", the much maligned but ubiquitous electric grid is already in place to support the rapid conversion to EVs and PIHVs.
Note that Toyota just announced they're switching a new US plant in Mississippi to Prius, from SUVs.

As to wind and solar powering hydrogen and so forth, those wind farms are already spoken for by every "big picture" planner.
But as reported by AWEA recently in these columns, wind "can provide 20% of the grid's power by 2030."
Three questions: Is that current grid demand? or
: Is that forecast grid demand? (EIA, and allowing for US
population growth to approx 350 million by 2030), or
: Is that the latter, PLUS all those EVs and PIHVs which will
reduce our dependency on foreign oil, but are not yet part of the grid equation?

ANS: Doesn't matter.

Either way, wind and solar have to be used to reduce coal's emissions. As an aside, at this juncture, the very last thing we want to do is shut down nuclear, which provides 19% of grid power, without emissions. We are already stuck with securing the waste for centuries or longer. Another 50-100 years of nuclear generation hardly matters.
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20 of 21
July 11, 2008
I appreciate the great concern about the world's present oil situation, as evidenced by the many posts shown above. As the author of this article, my intention was to talk about some of the many tools and techniques that business firms, government agencies, and non-profit organizations now have at their disposal. My intention, with the article, as with the book entitled Kicking The Gasoline & Petro-Diesel Habit: A Business Manager's Blueprint For Action, was to get out in front of the train and start laying some new track. We need to go in the direction of "we can do it, so let's get into action," rather than "we're doomed, so we might as well give up now." Yes, the numbers look bleak, and there is much to do, but that must not stop us from doing our best to rapidly manage the transition away from oil.

Separately, Russ Finley should know that I do not support bio-fuels as the most desirable substitute for gasoline & diesel fuel. They may, however, for a brief period of time, play an important role as a stepping-stone as we move away from petroleum-based fuels. Based on my 750+ page book, which details the pros and cons of eleven alternative fuels, I believe that electric vehicles now hold the greatest long-run promise. Electricity can be generated from a very wide variety of sources, including bio-methane, natural gas, nuclear, wind, solar, geo-thermal, wave/tidal, fuel cells, etc. For now, as a stepping stone in that direction, plug-in hybrids give us the versatility of both continuing to use petroleum-based fuels, while it is still available at a relatively affordable price, as well as being able to use electricity.
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21 of 21
July 13, 2008
Anyone ever notice how many good ideas are discussed here? Anyone notice that most of the comments are positive in nature and show hope for the future? So if this is the case why are things not getting done? We all want to see the U.S. become energy independent right? As Glenn Beck on CNN Headline News says:

'Not So Much'

How can this be? You mean not everyone in our country is doing what is in the best interest of everyone else in our country. How about the individuals who do not want any new power plants built even if it were solar, wind or geothermal or any of the other non carbon processes. How about those who object to transmission lines which are not even close to where they live.

Here is one example. T. Boone Pickens has put his money where his mouth is. I happen to think his plan has some good merits even thou I haven't heard the whole plan yet. I believe he is proposing about 20% wind and some solar I guess to free up [compressed] natural gas [CNG] for use as a transportation fuel which is not an entirely bad idea.

It is my belief however that as we go forward with such a plan the use of CNG in retrofitted car/trucks/etc will prove to be possible but not fully feasible. The reason: the transportation network is too large for CNG to meet most of the need. Also it is a carbon based fuel and is a limited resource. CNG along with electricity, bio-fuels, some oil, and other fuels could however do the job. Even so I see CNG as a transition fuel until something better comes along. So who will be against the plan.

1. The government
2. NIMBY people
3. Environmentalists
4. Oil Companies
5. Public Utilities
6. State Governments
7. People with SUV's and plug in hybrids
8. Long Haul Truckers and god only knows who else.

Can we make the Pickens Plan work - maybe.

Tom Garven
tomgarven@hotmail.com
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