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Finding a Second Life for Retired Wind Turbines

By Jennifer Runyon, Managing Editor
July 1, 2008   |   17 Comments

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"Some of these machines were built like tanks and like many aircraft and other pieces of equipment, they can be stripped down to the frame and rebuilt, using many newer technologies that were not even available when they were first made."

-- David Wright, VP of Manufacturing, Aeronautica Windpower
17 Reader Comments
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1 of 17
July 2, 2008
With the problems some of manufacturers are having with new turbines, recycling functional old ones is especially worthwhile. Smaller projects seem to be gaining some traction in New York.

Cliff
http://windpowerlaw.wordpress.com
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2 of 17
Add to the many failed attempts to convince that wind is not economical even though the machines are free. There are many ways to frustrate the public and this is no exception.
The best method of disposal is to allow interested consumers to purchase, dismantle, and reassemble each in it's own locally economical and environmentally friendly manner.
No doubt this wind boondoogle is tax funded and designed to profit from multiple states of subsidies.
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3 of 17
July 2, 2008
If you have the talent and equipment to do the work in MA it may be cheaper to ship cross country to start with and then expand the project to California in the future. Besides, if the first machines are going in on the east coast then you would have to ship them cross country anyway.
Brilliant idea!
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4 of 17
July 2, 2008
Congratulations to Aeronautica Windpower for their uniquely progressive niche. Yes, it is costly to disassemble and ship used windmills cross-country but presently there are very few used windmills in New England. Focusing on micro-grids to furnish generation to small businesses and institutions of higher learning is one answer to the grid riddle for it re-distributes power in more ways than one. When we consider the cost of operations for mega-utilities and the bureaucracies created to support associated complexities including lobbying in state houses and on Capital Hill this novel approach creates and supports the shift in thinking which subtly works its way through the global economy.

Conservation, sustainability, recycling and eco-sense are congruent with common sense. Many novel approaches are evolving. This is a clear-cut case of Yankee Ingenuity. My grasp of wind generation infrastructure costs is minimal but I believe that these costs are escalating significantly in the past 5 years due to popular demand. Re-configuring obsolete structures may be something our own military industrial complex should consider. Funding the Army Corps of Engineers for progressive domestic infrastructure projects makes more sense than funding projects in Iraq and elsewhere. Boosting our flogging economy is the most effective effort we can undertake. Our applause goes to Aeronautica Windpower.
Go to it men!
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5 of 17
July 2, 2008
Dear Sirs;
we are interested in your refubished turbine, plesase send us information.
We are a non profit 501c christian theme park open to the public and we sponsor handy - cap as, we also have a non profit radio station which covers 8 counties and also streaming on the internet 24/7, we can be found on our web site at www.wctpradiofm.com. Our address is 4330 Farver Rd. Gagetown Michigan 48735 Telephone 989 315 8043
Thank you in advance Pasto Duane Plonta
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6 of 17
July 2, 2008
The comment above exactly matches my thoughts. I have a public school client right here in California looking to install a demonstation wind turbine on their site. Conceptually, this proposal would be perfect, but it makes neither economic nor "green" sense to truck them to MA, just to ship them right back to the west coast.
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7 of 17
July 2, 2008
"While shipping large turbines from California to Massachusetts is costly, the company said that even with transportation costs, the overall sales cost for a refurbished turbine — ranging from US $80,000 to 120,000 — is still quite low in comparison to the cost of a new turbine."

I think it would be more economical to set up refurbishing equipment on site or at least closer to where fixing is to be done. It does not make much sense with transport costs going up to send the turbines such a great distance if, once completed, they could be re-integrated into the same site or on one close by.

adrianakau2aol.com
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8 of 17
July 3, 2008
Tennessee Cornstoves - your comments are quite confused / confusing. This IS a case of a private company buying and refurbishing the turbines. What is wrong with that?

While I agree with some of the other posters (and Aeronautica, itself) that it seems logical for Aeronautica to set up a plant closer to the source of the turbines (AFTER it irons out the bugs in a central location), your assertion that it would be better if the turbines were bought and refurbed independently in many different places ignores the benefits of specialization (within companies and within geographic regions).
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9 of 17
July 3, 2008
There is a company in the midwest that has been refurbishing and installing Vestas V15 and V17wind generators for a couple of years, so this idea isn't new. It has been tried and it works. They are also updating the generators to better fit winds in Wisconsin and Minnesota, and apparently get better performance than they did in California, as the units match the available winds better. Info on the Vestas units was in Home Power magazine, June/July 2007 issue, in the article on "Wind Turbine Buyer's Guide".
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10 of 17
July 3, 2008
Tennessee corn stoves. are you drinking your own mash this summer while the weather is hot and stoves are not needed. I didn't understand your message I live in Tennessee and just recently spoke with my state senator about wind and PV energy projects at our public school sites. He was very much in accord. In our high schools and two year colleges this would would be a fine opportunity for new classes to work on and learn. In spite of the nay sayers wind, PV and bio fuels are here, thank God. Water conservation needs to get on the important list of things to do.
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11 of 17
July 4, 2008
Keith,
There is a company closer to California. Its called Halus and they remanufacture wind turbines. The contact is Louis Rigaud at Halus. www.halus.com; lriguad@halus.com ? service@halus.com
Can't remember his email, but I considered flying out to look at his shop last fall, when Kittery was interested in buying a turbine. We went with a different manufacturer and I for one am very sorry. . Be really careful when you buy a wind turbine, especially a used one. This is a great idea. I think Halus has good product.

Suzanne
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12 of 17
July 4, 2008
I am wondering who to contact to find used Jacobs wind turbines. The larger wind machines would not serve a customer well if they don't get the retail rate if the net energy billing for most states is less then 50 kw.

Doug Johnson
920 257-1529
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13 of 17
The first 2 comments here assume that the refurbished turbines will be sited in California or the west coast, when I'm certain that is not exclusively the case.

And with respect to being economic or green, do you think that new turbines and all the components (or any renewable technology) are produced local to where they are eventually installed??? This idea is certainly more green than new turbines when you look at the embodied costs of a brand new turbine. How about we celebrate (relatively) new ideas rather than condemning them.
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14 of 17
July 7, 2008
Shipping across the country is probably temporary; the logistics, tooling and physical strategies will be brought to fruition in Massachusets and then reimplimented in other states if they intend to have multiple sites.

They could even set up a mobile 18 wheeler(s) and have the rig go to where the turbines are. Redeployment could be streamlines in this fashion as well. After all, most pieces of surgical equipment today are fixed onsite by three or four larger medical instrument companies; why not wind turbines- it's just a bigger scale of equipment.

As a well rounded technician, I would love to have such a job; fixing older equipment and redeploying for our energy needs. Sign me up.

All the Best
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15 of 17
December 23, 2008
I've been doing internet researching for about 6 months. I'm very interested in solar and wind power for electricy. I have found they will be quite costly. I have seen the federal tax credit, but my state has no credits yet. I would greatly be interested in finding out information on one of your windmills. I'm a recylist , I have no trash. I'm trying to find every effient way of conserving my electric. I even been shuting my water heater off and only turning it on 4 hours a day. Having a wind turbine and solar panels is becoming an every day obsession. Can't afford to purchase one. My utilities are outrageous. Would really love to be considered if theres not a costly fee for shipping. This is my every day dream. Have been getting instructions on building one myself, using pvc pipe for the rotors, but I don't have all the techology and feel this would be wasting my time and money. Great that they are recycling. Please keep me in mine. Thank you very much
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16 of 17
September 30, 2010
if the Wind Turbines are plastic we have a Waste-to-Energy Technology that can take plastics and make electricity where rates are high. It can take tires, plastics, MSW and nearly all organic waste. Plus its all ELECTRIC!

We are looking for a pilot facility for a 5tpd system. If you have a potential project please contact me.

Michael Magana
Powerhouse Energy
213-392-0543
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17 of 17
December 12, 2010
it is really good to refurbished old machines . Some of us in the Philippines have been running your 60-70 year old jeepney used during the war! May I suggest that you send us those old wind turbines and we shall make use of them. Please contact Vic Ruiz at ruvita02@gmail.com. Thank you.
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