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Lessons Learned by Offshore Oil Industry Boost Offshore Wind Energy

By Christopher D. Barry, P.E.
June 13, 2008   |   13 Comments

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June 13, 2008
Good technical article to study. Offshore wind has excellent potential for development and I think that it should be combined with ocean current energy extraction if at all possible.

I think that in about 2 or 3 decades, the oil industry will find it more economical to use their drilling expertise to drill for hot rock. Right now they drill for oil because it is good for their business but what are they to do with all their drilling equipment later on when the oil runs out?

adrianakau2aol.com
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June 14, 2008
Much of the hot wind and Global Warming is created in WA DC by the US Congress. (Snarky Remark)

Talk about ill winds!

What if they parked some turbines off the coast near DC?
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June 14, 2008
To add to Adrian comment, that is just what we at Offshore Wind Power Systems of Texas have done, we have taken the learned expertise of the oilfield offshore to develop a design for deep offshore platforms to provide a solution that is technically sound and economically achiveable.

There are problems with just about every system out there that is being proposed by various companies and people of the industry, the assumed position of using the past experienc of the oilfield is the right path, the industry seems to finally wokeup to this fact just resently, it was evedent at this years OTC 08 conference in Houston and and at the National Wind conference in Houston this last week, it was well attened by both wind and oilfield people. So I believe we we may take a little "Black Gold" and turn it "Green" in the future, if you want to see the future of wind then please come and see our web site www.offshorewindpowersystemoftexas.com

Thanks for bring us this information

dhines@offshorewindpowersystemsof texas
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June 16, 2008
Ill Winds

Winds that blow and bear us ill, take us far against our will,
Like a clot inside our vein, gives our nation mortal pain,
Washington needs to be cleaned, new men needed on the scene,
Many now have lost their sight, cannot tell us wrong from right,
Ignorant in energy, voting for bad policy,
Coal and oil and nuclear, breaks for them, it isn't fair,
Leaving out support we need, renewable funding they should heed,
Cut us from the fossil cord, Senators take up the sword,
Back the wind and sun instead, energies we need not dread,
Use your wisdom, set us free, help promote clean energy.

adrianakau2aol.com
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June 17, 2008
It's also important to understand one important fact about the permitting process - that the far-offshore, semi-submerged or tension leg designs are still in the experimental stage, though this article suggests a lot of promise in adapting lessons from the oil experience.

As we go forward with offshore wind in the US, we should understand that the monopole design that has been used for many years now is pretty mature, and the cost-benefit formula is well known from near-shore installations using such designs. Let's not get it wrong AGAIN and shelve those proposals in favor of designs that are not only far offshore but far off in terms of time. It will be expensive for far-offshore floating installations to match near-shore monopole-based farms in terms of gross power output and delivery to the grid. If and when the 'floaters' can so match their inshore brethren, we can perhaps put all our eggs in that basket, but not until then.
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June 18, 2008
As much as I admire all this wind turbine work,I still think that the best way for the average middle class citizen of the US to survive and prosper is to have an energy source on every roof. All this big tech still leaves us at the mercy of investers who will then gouge us just as the oil companys do now. Excuse my cynical heart.
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June 18, 2008
Siphon, US use is 4000 TWh annually.
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June 18, 2008
My company has designs which can tap off-shore, on-shore Wind Energy at $.05/kWh, profitably. The energy companies (nee oil companies) are afraid of the implications of wind. The Indian and Chinese governments have realized this free bounty, and are acting vigorously. T. Boone Pickens, has ordered 4 GW of "legacy" wind turbines, realizing the enormous ROI. The cost of wind should enable conversion / transition to a hydrogen economy, if wanted, definitely cheap electricity, as once was the case with hydroelectric. Unfortunately, the U.S. only reacts to events like 9/11 or Pearl Harbor. Our energy crisis, being stepwise has dulled our senses. Further, the new players are making so much money, "cherry picking", they do not want to create a paradigm shift, where only a few will remain. Probably the breakthroughs will come from overseas – where their needs have reached crises proportion, including civil unrest. What we've learned from the Oil companies is that we can not learn from the oil companies. JRIAM1945@AOL.COM
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June 18, 2008
Even if only 10% is in shallow waters, that's 20 TWh

The US only uses about 4 TWh.

5x US electric use!

I've been reading about Tubercle Technology, a finding by WhalePower. It involves placing bumbs on the leading edge of the blades. That could really increase the energy generated per year even more, while making offshore a lot cheaper.
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June 18, 2008
Another option for offshore, is to use flying wind turbines such as the rotating dirigible designed by Magenn. This turbine has a fair way to go before the company builds multi-megawatt machines, however, when this happens, you could have a number of turbines stacked one above the other like a ladder on a single pair of cables (there is a generator at each end of the turbine), and moore them to a single barge or other suitable structure.
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June 19, 2008
Yep, it's around 4,000 tWh ! according to http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/northamerica/engsupp.htm
From the same people who said (in '04) that the upper price senario for barrel of oil would take MANY decades to reach where it is now.

Anyway, divide 4,000 by 8,760 hours in a year for rough capacity = .45 tW capacity. Since RE is good about 25% of the time, x's by 4. 2,000,0000 one megawatt class wind turbines are needed just to replace electrical usage! figure at least three or four times that for a post oil U.S. Perhaps more for electrical storage, or less due to future led lighting and other efficiencies.

Of course, solar thermal (mirrors) will need to be implemented to help offset melting glaciers, since they reflect the bright area next to the sun back into space. Solar will also help offset juice storage (by wind) needs, and hopefully create more jobs.

Figure 8,760 tWh needed by 2040 from RE. (/ by 8760 x 4) = 4 terrawatt capacity At $2 per installed watt, = about $3 per day for every American for 30 years (pay as we go without financing). $4 with all the needed strings (HVDC) attached.

Better than death by oil depletion!
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I am presently pursuing a patent that will reduce the cost of maintenance on utilitry size wind turbines which in effect will reduce electrictiy costs to cosummers from 15 to 20 percent. It proposes to take the generator and controls out of the nacell, which could be over 300 feet in the air, and mount them on the ground whsere replacement and ordinary maintenace costs are thus reduced. This feature is especially desirable on floating wind turbines off shore as the weight of the generator and contols is lowered making the design of these units cheaper to build. Alexander koleoglou
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July 3, 2008
Ah yes, my mistake, miscalculated 3 decimals there! (4000 billion kWh misread as 4000 billion Wh)

Of course that's just california. Total US offshore + onshore resource is still bigger than 4000 TWh, and I believe that a reduction to 2000 - 3000 TWh through efficiency alone (not even counting conservation) by 2050 is not too difficult with the right policy in place. (then again that's easier said than done in the US of A)
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