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Kyoto's Great Carbon Offset Swindle

By Patrick McCully, Executive Director, International Rivers
June 9, 2008   |   17 Comments

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17 Reader Comments
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1 of 17
June 9, 2008
I had no idea Big Science was so powerful that these trading schemes were already in place. They even have lobby firms?

Forgive my ignorance on this subject, but what happens if there are not enough CERs to go around and too many exceed their quotient of baby's breath (co2)?
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2 of 17
June 11, 2008
i've still got a problem with this whole thing... if the fluorinated hydrocarbon is 11k times as bad as CO2, why not have a specific tax on IT and not a trading system which, as is accurately put, just moves the pollution to another source wealthy enough to buy the credits?

in the same vein, H2O is many times more powerful of a "greenhouse gas" than CO2. why not tax water vapor emissions the same way, too. it would be a much stronger force in reducing the alleged "global warming" and speed transitions to non-petrochemical energy sources than trading CO2 credits, wouldn't it?

similarly, as many have pointed out, if a Japanese or US company buys "carbon credits" from some developing country, it basically creates an increase in cost in the buying country and a cash flow to the selling country.

that amounts to little more than the equivalent of an import/export tax or subsidy, mainly driving competitive balance between the countries down the tubes for the "buying country" as well as if it were slapped with an import fee on its products by the "selling country."

and some of us have seen what "good" tariffs and subsidies have done...

makes me oppose Kyoto even more. makes it look like more political BS from more "representatives" who've never soiled the hallowed halls of an Economics 101 classroom.
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3 of 17
June 11, 2008
While I agree that CDM has proven to be a mechanism quite easy to be gamed, I do not agree with the author's assertion that the Kyoto Protocol is completed flawed. CDM, being one element of the Kyoto Protocol, was originally designed to be transitional anyway. The overarching goal of Kyoto is to cut GHG emissions so as to avoid the catastrophes due to irreversible climate change. The Bush Administration has been using any and all kinds of excuses not to rectify Kyoto, demonstrating no leadership in combating climate change. Please criticize CDM but do not let such criticism to become further excuses.
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4 of 17
June 11, 2008
Carbon tax based on how much you pollute is the ONLY way to go.
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5 of 17
June 11, 2008
Most carbon credit moneys go to the China Government as a 50% tax on carbon credits.

A shared Public/private partnership is an interesting business market

Multinational corporate government partners are able to controll world markets with the help of carbon taxes.

What was the cause of death of Alexander Farrell, 46, expert on alternative fuels?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/04/18/BAOK1087DP.DTL


Clean Air Performance Professionals
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6 of 17
June 11, 2008
I read through McCully's paper. Most notably he seems to use the CDM and the other Kyoto mechanisms interchangeably.

It's clear that the Kyoto protocol and the CDM will serve to promote large hydroprojects (a key issue for International Rivers). I understand how that damages and destroys people and river ecosystems. But building those dams is reducing CO2 which is acidifying the oceans and destroying my coral reefs.

My point is not that we should build dams to save coral reefs. It might be if I used McCully's rationale. My point is the CDM needs work. The reality is we are not going to get there through tax and spend. We need that too, but we need to attack the problem on all fronts, using both tax and spend, and market mechanisms. Market mechanisms are profit based and will generate externalities anytime the regulatory framework is not perfect. Since no regulatory framework is perfect, that's the way it will be. Better to work with it than to dump it Patrick.
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7 of 17
June 11, 2008
How would the mine's emissions reductions fit under the CDM, The Clean Development Mechanism?

I certainly won't argue that the CDM system is a mess. It's in its wild wild west era. As with anything new, the regulatory framework will be developed to counteract the loophole finders. That's how it works. You make a regulation, business finds ways to exploit it or go around it, you adjust the regulation to compensate. It may not be working well, but it is working.

The CDM is all about additionality. The mine is not a good example because it should have been under a cap and trade not CDM. I can't help thinking something got left out of this synopsis or there's another agenda.
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8 of 17
June 11, 2008
Your point that the Kyoto Agreement is a massive fraud foisted on industrialized countries for the purpose of transferring wealth to developing nations is well taken. One can only hope that at some point it will be more economical to build a solar or wind generating facility that one using coal. Only at that point will schemes such as this be abandoned. Until then, the politicians and other scammers will continue to use carbon offsets to line their own pockets and rip off their own people.
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9 of 17
June 11, 2008
So, if I get the program correctly, or, as it was sold to me, my solar water heater could net me some monetary credit based on carbon offset that would ultimately be paid for by some polluter that can delay, perhaps forever, their pollution abatement or cleanup. That might seem good for me and should encourage everyone to get on the clean energy payroll. What will happen then is that products of these paying companies will cost more, will need bureaucrats to determine who is on what side of the energy balance for credit or debits, even considering that a small solar user like me would ever be able to really get in the que for credits. And the bigger companies are already corrupting this scheme bigtime, as you illustrated. So, it's OK to pollute as long as you make allot of money doing it. This is completely insane and shows how little thought is given to clean energy and integrity on a world level. I trust this cannot last, but hey, Bush did get a second term and even a first. Maybe more tax cuts for these large corporations will help them pay the pollution debits. Yah, that's the ticket.
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10 of 17
June 11, 2008
I found the article confusing, for example the statement, "If a Chinese mine cuts its methane emissions under the CDM, there will be no global climate benefit because the polluter that buys the offset avoids the obligation to reduce its own emissions." Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't you just say that a Chinese mine did indeed cut its methane emissions? Why should it matter who financed the greenhouse gas reduction? The other issue is the author blaming the system of carbon credits as flawed because achieving the actual reductions cost "billions of dollars (or pounds) could have been saved by cutting the emissions through international funds." What funds are you talking about and why do you think the source of funds would make one iota of difference? Finally, the statement in reference to China reaping credits from projects they would have built anyway, "Given the boom in construction of power projects in China, the fact that it is government policy to promote these types of projects and the fact that thousands of hydro projects have been built in China without any help from the CDM, this is simply not credible." That's like saying builders of new windmills in Holland are suspect because they would have built them anyway regardless of government incentives. My point is, energy providers in China are being rewarded for not building coal-fired plants. Is that so bad?
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11 of 17
June 11, 2008
Carbon offset credits are a terrible idea. My first impression of the system was that it was merely a way for large corporations to buy their way out of being energy and environmentally responsible in their day to day operation. It comes as no surprise to me to hear a story like this. Frankly, it is what I had expected from the program.

I am no fan of big government. But, the reality is, legislation and law enforcement is the only thing we have to make sure corporations implement the neccessary technology to protect the people and preserve the future.
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12 of 17
June 12, 2008
The first car built by Ford was in comparison to todays vehicles, a disaster. But as was previously said here, ya gotta start somewhere. Now, lets see if we can get rid of the backfires, noise, and stink ...
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13 of 17
June 13, 2008
Your article was the basis for my post on www.cleantechnica.com on this subject. My posting prompted a reply from the United Nation's Public Information officer, and I thought it should be shared:

"You are right to point out the extremely high global warming potential of HFC-23, a by-product in the manufacture of refrigerant HCFC-22. Please know, however, that neither new HCFC-22 factories nor increased production can qualify under the CDM. Factories must show three years of production history up to 2005, and the amount of gas that can qualify is pegged to historical production levels.
David Abbass
Public Information Officer
UNFCCC CDM"
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14 of 17
June 14, 2008
I've been reading and I understand it as this; everyone starts with a specific amount of allowed emissions (the cap). If a renewable energy project is built in China that reduces their emissions by 10 units, they can sell that benefit to USA (the trade) who is now allowed to increase their emissions by 10 units.

Now suppose for easy math those 10 units represented 10% of both China and USA's emissions. So now we have China at 100% - 10% = 90% and we have the US at 100% + 10% = 110%. We still have the same 200 units of emissions, but now China is getting paid because they are emitting less.

But here are a couple of questions:

What if no one in the USA, or anywhere else for that matter, needs the credit?

What if the USA spends all the money on the reductions and the under developed nations can not afford to buy (or refuse to buy) the credits?

What if the planet cools off over the next 50 years like some say is going to happen?
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15 of 17
June 14, 2008
Dear Fellows:

Patrick McCully wrote these ideas below.

"And when a CDM credit does actually represent an "emission reduction, there is no global benefit because offsetting is a zero-sum game. If a Chinese mine cuts its methane emissions under the CDM, there will be no global climate benefit because the polluter that buys the offset avoids the obligation to reduce its own emissions. If current trends continue, the majority of the cuts in emissions supposed to be produced under Kyoto will be produced merely by handing in CDM certificates to the UN, instead of through actual pollution reductions."

I must disagree. For an example the Chinese CH4 reduction will be given
a value of 2 and the buyer of the credits will be given a value of 2 for their
emissions. The reduction is paid for by the credit certificate earned. The
cost is on the company with the emission and the benefit is with the China
company. This is not a sum of 2 plus 2 for a total of 4, but a 2 minus 2 for
a net reduction. The function remains even with other numbers that you
may wish to use. Furthermore in a GLOBAL climate change a emission
or reduction can be located anywhere and it would affect the total planet.
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16 of 17
June 17, 2008
As one writer noted above, the only way to force this issue in an even and non-political way is through a tax on carbon. There are no artificial caps, just free market competition.

Doesn't this make more sense than the CER trading scheme?
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17 of 17
July 9, 2008
This article is very sweeping generalization on a market mechanism that was painstakingly evolved through global institutional process. Every major initiative has to go through the learning phase wherein mid course corrections need to be carried out it the direction of the laid down procedures is not in accordance with the intent. Any failings in the initial lauching of the programme should be objectively identified and corrected rather than rushing to conclusions. There are a large number of community based renewable energy and energy efficiency initiatives which would not have been grounded in India had it not been for the incentivization through CDM process which is good socially, economically, and environmentally locally as well as globally. The increasing stringency with which CDM projects are being scrutinized in the recent past and the number of projects that are being subjected review and rejections in an early indication of system becoming more and more mature. Inspite of the best efforts there still could be some undeserving projects but these need to be brought to light (in the current age of information revolution it is neither difficult nor costly) . Calling CDM mechanism as a swindle would be dishonouring the authors of this mechanism as well as the deserving projects which are increasingly becoming possible thanks to CDM process. For e.g., the biogas plants implemented for rural poor to meet their cooking fuel needs got a great booster with CDM mechanism similarly CFL, Solar LED lamps etc as they are being conceived and implemented for the poor with a major revenue coming from CDM. These technologies would not have reached the poor definitely not in the current numbers especially for the poor but for the CDM mechanism. Any criticism has to be constructive rather than being attention seeking and eye catching.
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