Graphite/Graphene Solar Cell Developed

Lawrence Curtin, you're a real space monkey. Not only can I read and write, I also know the difference between 'waste' and 'waist,' which the author of that rather amateurish site does not.

"This country was built on innovation. It is being destroyed by evil." This about as naive as it gets. The US got its big kick in innovation when it got half of Germany's scientists at the conclusion of WWII, just as the Russians got the other half and became the world's other superpower. Anyways, that's too much digressive politics for what I figure should be a discussion about whether or not that website is valid or a scam.

That website has no important information, such as absorption efficiency and cost per square meter for the product. I'm not scamming anyone. I'm not selling anything in my post. You, on the other hand, reacted emotionally and attacked my intelligence. I only attacked the legitimacy of the website which seems to lack important scientific detail, yet offer rather specific investment advice. That's why I think it's a scam. Your emotional response isn't that of an intellectual, but rather that of a sensationalist, or con artist trying to divert attention from the issues I brought up with the site. Notice I wasn't the only person who believed the website's validity to be suspect.

Is this company for real? I went to their website and found this at the bottom of their page:

11. This company is a public company.

The companies stock trades in the US OTC market under the symbol PVSO. Our stock also trades on the Frankfurt (Germany) OTC Stock Exchange under the stock symbol 3PH. All information that the company discloses can be found on this web site and on the SEC site www.sec.gov under the companies name. Our February 29, 2008 10 K filing can be found at

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1404943/000094344008000165/feb08-10k.txt

If management of the company deems that information it publishes here is material then that information will be put out in a news announcement over a National News Wire on the day that it is published on this web site. The company has 4,915,000 shares issued and outstanding. It has 640,000 shares in its public float. The stock transfer agent is Continental Stock Transfer of New York.

Makes me think 'scam.' It doesn't mention *anything* about efficiency ratings or even a remote projection of cost per meter of material. The website offers such poor information that I can't help but wonder if it's some kind of stupid prank or a scam to try to get suckers to invest.

I went to the website and this company does look a little dubious. Reminds me of a well-intentioned individual working out of a garage in Ft. Pierce. But then, many scientific advances have been made by individuals working at home. The website doesn't give me a warm, fuzzy feeling even if the proposed technology does (if it works). Seems like it is a "work in progress" as all solar is..

"Reminds me of a well-intentioned individual working out of a garage in Ft. Pierce."

You know, I'd agree except for the thing at the end about investing. Also, if this was actually true, they could find a great array of volunteers who would love to do everything they could to make a dream like this come true for the sake of the planet. Certainly they could find someone who knows the difference between 'waste' and 'waist,' and could actually write a decent webpage. This kind of breakthrough, were it true, would send ripples around the world and the people involved would be instant celebs in the realm of renewable energy with solid footing in Nobel prizes and being lauded by all universities with at least the same amount of attention that was given cold fusion. This looks like a dud, and I'm surprised that anyone would believe anything from this company until it's actually sold its first roll of cells and concrete details as to its abilities were released.

I'll bet dollars to donuts it's a scam.

I have personally used the 3M conductive tape these guys show on their web site. It's made a matrix of acrylic adhesive and silver particles. It's good material for things like RF shielding, but I definitely wouldn't buy a PV product made with it. The adhesive wouldn't last very long after exposure to constant summer heat. I know - I've tested it under hot and humid conditions. I doubt that 3M would recommend it for this purpose.

Without seeing their patents, I can't comment on whether this is a fraud or merely a case of sloppy implementations of valid discoveries. Turning an idea into a reliable, manufacturable working product is a much bigger deal than most people think.

Buckeyeballs?

Steve I think you hit the nail on the head!, But we must remember; the people who make claim and attempt to spark investment in a shady product might have an all together different motive. The people who gave us record OIL prices and bad mouth Alternative energy, (Speculators) Goldman---and a few others, would love to see a Solar product not produce; just to allow them to say, "See we told you so"......Ignore them! I am suprised at RNW not attaching a disclaimer to this report...

Exerpt of 10K SEC filing with info on the officers and some misc. seems to bear out the idea of a "startup company."
http://sec.edgar-online.com/2008/05/02/0000943440-08-000165/Section23.asp