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PV You Can Drive On: Promising Technology in Solar Roads

March 6, 2008   |   26 Comments

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Brusaw believes his system, if implemented from coast-to-coast in place of the tarmac on existing highways, could produce enough energy to meet the entire world's electricity needs.
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1 of 26
March 6, 2008
<p>I thought the application of LED solar studs to light the center line and edge of the road to be a great application.&nbsp; Here in Southern California with no snow, the studs could last years or decades.</p><p>As for roads made of solar panels, its got to be a joke. &nbsp;&nbsp;</p>
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2 of 26
March 6, 2008
Sounds nuts to me.

It would surely be cheaper to build a roof structure over the road, and put solar cells on that, than to try to resist the impact of vehicles on top of the cells.
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3 of 26
March 6, 2008
<p>The solar cells on my roof lose 1% of their production per week afer a cleaning.&nbsp; I wonder how fast they would drop if cars were driving on them.</p><p>If one cell in a string of cells is in shadow, the entire string stops working. Bypass diodes allow production to continue, but at reduced voltage. So any other string in parallel will also have to operate at reduced votage. With multiple shadows the array easily loses all power even if only a small fraction is in shadow. Trees, light poles, cars, power lines, all those shadows will kill output. I guess you could put a DC to DC converter on every cell...... </p>
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4 of 26
March 6, 2008
<p>OK, let's see, a solar array (of any kind) works best when it has a clear view of the sun, and even better if it is angled to be perpendicular to the sun (on average).&nbsp; How can anyone think that a road that is partially covered with vehicles (perhaps as much as 50% is some areas) is a good place to put a solar array?&nbsp; Not to mention servicing them (ok, let's stop traffic into Houston for a couple of days while we repair this connection), and installing them in the first place?&nbsp; (yes, mr president, we want to rip up the entire interstate system in the US to put in solar arrays).&nbsp; Good luck, you'll need it!</p><p>&nbsp;</p>
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5 of 26
<p>This could be taken a step further. There's the new technology for charging electronic devices from a distance. If this were put into the&nbsp;parking lots&nbsp;at rest areas,&nbsp;electric cars could be charging while people used the restroom or had lunch. With the new fast charge batteries that are coming out, the car batteries could be 50% charged in 10-15 minutes.</p>
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6 of 26
March 7, 2008
<p>solar/LED studs are way cool</p><p>roads and parking lots &amp; built-up flat roofs are ready for solar heating via liquid glycol and solar heat-driven electricity via thermocouple design. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Parking lots could also benefit all by having sunny areas of actual parking space covered with a net that can hold thin-film cells to provide power for LED lighting &amp; electric car recharging while lowering reflective heat back to atmoshere and shading/cooling the cars parked in the lot.&nbsp;</p><p>I must agree that using current photovoltaic tech with road sufaces would be very problematic. But if we use those technologies and new ones as they develop on a large % of suitable surfaces, we'll be going in the right direction.</p>
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7 of 26
March 7, 2008
The idea of using the road itself might have merit if less expensive collectors are developed, such as converting heat to electricity instead of photons.&nbsp; Just as the heat is collected and stored for winter use in the one proposal, it could be used in the south to produce electricity.&nbsp; Something like a semi-conductor thermocouple, or whatever might be developed.&nbsp; It would not be so immediately impacted by transient shade of passing vehicles.
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8 of 26
March 7, 2008
<p>I am with Jim Berry on this one. Solar studs a great idea, but solar roads not so sure about. Maybe we should use up all the roof tops first before we hit the road but hey lets keep our minds open to all new technology and give the folks behind it a fair go.</p><p>Mike H. HYDROGENHEADS</p>
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9 of 26
March 7, 2008
I don't like to be a naysayer for people trying to find creative ways out of our increasing energy dilemmas, but I don't think this idea has merit.&nbsp; Cutting to the chase here, let's ask &quot;THE&quot; big question:&nbsp; Who's going to&nbsp;PAY for replacement of the nation's Interstate Highway system with solar-generating roads??!&nbsp;Folks, this would mean&nbsp;ENORMOUS increases in TAXES, and probably the installation of toll booths everywhere (read: 'user charges') to cover the installation, upkeep and maintenance of all these road surfaces, not to mention the building of regularly-spaced monitoring centers to pinpoint where breakdowns are occurring.&nbsp; Bottom line:&nbsp;Fun idea, maybe, but not economically or socially practical.&nbsp; Installing PV on medians would be cheaper/better, but still enormously costly...and I'd rather not be paying 80% of my retirement income in taxes so that people can drive cars on electricity-producing roads....thanks !
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10 of 26
March 7, 2008
<p>Following upon what John Briggs offered, consider the impact upon power generation&nbsp;caused by road surface deterioration, oil/fluids leak, and tire residue.&nbsp; All that rubber lost from our tires goes to the road surface, the air, and water runoff.&nbsp; Now it will also impede solar gain.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </p>
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11 of 26
March 7, 2008
<p>PV is best installed closer to the load.&nbsp; Think BIG flat rooftops,&nbsp;as in public schools, big box retailers, malls, etc.&nbsp; The beauty is that, during PVs peak production months, the schools are underutilized, and&nbsp;much of&nbsp;the power&nbsp;can go directly to the grid.&nbsp; &nbsp;</p><p>The dilemma&nbsp;is that roof penetrations&nbsp;and/or system weight&nbsp;(ballast for non-penetrating systems), are show-stoppers.&nbsp;&nbsp;In wintry climes,&nbsp;building managers&nbsp; are not willing to risk compromising&nbsp;roof integrity in order to save a penny or two per kWhr.&nbsp;&nbsp;PV laminates adhered to EPDM are the solution (less weight, with minimal penetrations).&nbsp; As with residential roofs, timing these projects to coincide with re-roofing shrinks the market&nbsp;significantly.&nbsp; </p><p>And&nbsp;again,&nbsp;most are reluctant &quot;to be the first&quot;; everyone want to be next...&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </p>
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12 of 26
March 7, 2008
If only 1.7% of the US&nbsp;can support the entire country with solar electricity why not just cover the median strips rather than the actual highways.&nbsp; Would that give us enough energy while not disturbing/rebuilding highways?&nbsp; Then concerns regarding overloaded truck, oil spilled etc would be mute.&nbsp; If necessary we could use median strips &amp; only the edges (breakdown lanes) of the countries highways.
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13 of 26
March 7, 2008
<p>I have one word for you, <strong style="color: black; background-color: #ffff66">&quot;syncrete&quot;</strong>.&nbsp; This was a synthetic concrete used on an interstate in Utah.&nbsp; It was supposed to be more durable but turned out to be less durable.&nbsp; It crumbled shortly after installation.&nbsp; Then pieces of it came free, where kicked into the air by passing cars, and then broke windshields.&nbsp; Ultimately, it all had to be removed.</p><p>&nbsp; It is great to be optimistic about technology, but I think decades of testing are in order for anything that will change the road surface.</p><p>Thanks</p><p>John C. Briggs&nbsp;</p>
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14 of 26
March 7, 2008
I think the point of this, and of most renewable energy options, is to not assume that it will stand up to the worst case location, instead, it's makes more sense to think that each technology should initally be installed in the optimum/ideal conditions to get benefits with least expense. For this, it might be used for new roads in less travelled locations with lots of sun. This would make a dent in our oil dependence. If we do this for each new bright idea, we'll probably achieve more&nbsp;success with renewables faster than getting stuck on the details for universal adaptability.
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15 of 26
March 7, 2008
<p>Before those of you who are enthusiastic about this start calling for federal subsidies, tell us how much of YOUR OWN MONEY you're ready to put into this....&nbsp; Conservation first.&nbsp; LEDs, CFLs, etc, etc, etc...</p><p>&nbsp;</p>
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16 of 26
March 7, 2008
<p>(cont.) I suspect the arrays can also be &quot;strung&quot; in such a way that shading on one panel doesn't take out the electrical production of an entire stretch of roadway (which would kill this idea instantly). Thin-film modules already do this at the module level: shading on one corner of the module reduces electrical output but doesn't stop it dead the way it can with crystalline solar modules.</p><p>BUT...I'm at a loss to see how these arrays will continue to function as oil and road grime build up on the &quot;rough surface&quot; glass. Or how such a technology can be rolled out on a timely basis. This reminds me a bit of building integrated PV (BIPV): worth doing on NEW roads perhaps (since you have to stop traffic and tear up the ground ANYWAY, there's less incremental cost for the arrays) but too expensive to retrofit into existing roadways. I certainly hope these obstacles can be overcome.</p>
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17 of 26
March 7, 2008
This does sound pretty crazy at first but I think there may actually be solutions for all the obvious problems mentioned above. Thin-film solar module technology works well with ambient light and therefore isn't as dependent on being tilted to produce acceptable electrical output. The &quot;rough surface&quot; suggested for the glass may also be intended to change the angle of incoming light so that it still hits the solar cells at close to the ideal angle....
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18 of 26
March 7, 2008
<p>I think it is a great idea and we should go for it.<br />And why not recharge our electic cars when driving on the road. &quot;There's the new technology for charging electronic devices from a distance.&quot;Let's open the door to new technoligies and take better care of our planet.&nbsp;</p>
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19 of 26
March 7, 2008
<p>Boss, this is a great IDEA !!</p><p>In India, we are always short of power as we have less than 50 % generation as compared to the demand. And we do not have power at all in the rural areas. Many of our trunk roads like the Jodhpur Jaisalmer highway and many others are only 10 % busy. But we have plenty of Sun.</p><p>&nbsp;Maybe we can try this technology here and validate it !</p><p>Anyways, how can I join this initiative ?</p><p>Presently, I am at Dubai +971501574969 Jitendra&nbsp;</p>
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20 of 26
March 8, 2008
<p>This may or may not be practical in all situations.&nbsp; How many square miles of suburban side streets, with minimal traffic do we have in this country?&nbsp; Slso close the homes that need the energy.&nbsp; PV technology in streets is not the total answer, but probably would work well in many situations.</p><p>We need to develop alternative energy&nbsp;sources in the very near term&nbsp;future.&nbsp; There seems to be no leadership in the USA, except the profit motive in our capitalistic society.&nbsp; I believe that the $$$ are going to be there,&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>
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21 of 26
March 9, 2008
As George Messier pointed out, generation is best situated close to the load so perhaps if this system works, the power generated should be used to charger electric cars using the highway.&nbsp; At every picnic spot, garage and road side restaurant you would have charging points where you would plug in, swipe your card and have your car charged while you take a break.&nbsp;
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22 of 26
March 9, 2008
<p>&nbsp; Nobody has mentioned&nbsp; &quot;Our Driveways&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I bet most driveways are larger surface area than our roofs.&nbsp;&nbsp; Very little traffic , the system would not have to withstand&nbsp; large trucks.&nbsp; Partial shading problem would have to be controlled. &nbsp; &nbsp; </p>
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23 of 26
March 11, 2008
<p>About that 1.7%...</p><p>There are 34 million acres of miltary bases...</p><p>There are 120 million acres of highway right-of-way</p><p>There are 124 million acres of urban and suburban sprawl</p><p>There are 10 million acres of fallow, subsidized farm land.</p><p>Depending on your efficiency assumptions...it would take between 34 million to 120 million acres of land to produce 100% of the US energy budget with and installed cost greater then 2 trillion dollars.</p><p>Hey, SDI costs 1 trillion.</p>
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24 of 26
March 15, 2008
Solar thermal systems using the solar heat absorbed by roads already exist, providing commercial and domestic heating and cooling, as well as keeping roads ice free over winter, although they utilise appropriate aquifers as storage so aren't as cost effective where those are absent. As technologies improve, thermal systems could end up producing electricity from heat absorbed by roads.
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25 of 26
March 15, 2008
Whilst I'm sure it would be cheaper to put PV awnings over and alongside roads than embed cells in the road surface, I've liked this idea for a long time (it's not new) for the elegant appropriateness.&nbsp; Still, some of the objections here are ones I don't see as that big - highest wear parts of roads (hills, turns, intersections), or sections subject to a lot of shading don't need to be used at all when there is so much road surface that is more suitable. They get dirty, so clean them. Roads tend to follow the power grid or cross it, connecting to where needed. As peak oil hits and electric vehicles begin being common place, it would be close to future big consumers of electricity. There are solar powered blinking road studs, made to take impacts from tyres (made to have an audible whack when hit, not just rolled over) - telling me that materials capable of taking the wear exist. My only objection is that of cost.
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26 of 26
June 5, 2008
it is great idea and executed well will solve many problems particularly in developing countries
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