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February 1, 2008   |   15 Comments

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1 of 15
February 1, 2008
<p>&nbsp;</p><p>Jim Berry:&nbsp; Your statements are all correct.&nbsp; Presently lead acid batteries would be more practical than Hydrogen, but the problems associated with Hydrogen will most likely be solved before lead acid batteries catch on.&nbsp; Hydrogen fuel cells have much higher energy production per weight than lead acid batteries, which means that batteries would only be a temporary solution until all the bugs get worked out of the hydrogen powered car.&nbsp; But, as you said, neither one of these will become popular until oil begins to run out, which will be by about 2038 according to the more reliable statistics I've seen.&nbsp; But I know you can only believe half of what you read.&nbsp; </p>
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2 of 15
February 1, 2008
<p>Hydrogen as a fuel source will not replace oil, gas or coal until the those are nearly depleted.</p><p>Hydrogen is difficult to store nor does it have the raw power of petro-chemicals. For example those Hydrogen cars that make the new often have a range of only 100 miles or so. If the car sits for a week, most of the hydrogen is gone. That does not satisfy most driving needs. A lead base battery car looks more pratical than Hydrogen.&nbsp; </p>
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3 of 15
February 1, 2008
<p>Except it's not really an issue of &quot;Food crops&quot;<br />It's an issue of &quot;Crops&quot; period.<br />There just isn't enough feedstock.<br /><a href="http://greyfalcon.net/biolimits.png" target="_blank">http://greyfalcon.net/biolimits.png</a> <br /><br />That said, the second part of the article has more weight than the first.<br />Given it's ability for direct synthesis of butanol.<br />A fuel with much more desirable performance charasteristics than ethanol.</p>
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4 of 15
February 1, 2008
<p>Congratulations on the amazing work. I love the idea of hydrogen because of its 'water exhaust'. However we seem to be hitting the same barrier with regards to using food crops to supply sugar to feed the bacteria. </p><p>So until we have cellulosic capabilities, the immediate answer is still 1. Efficiency 2. renewables like wind, solar, biomass and biogas.</p>
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5 of 15
February 2, 2008
Can I ask why you feel lead acid batteries are better than other types of more advanced batteries? Lead acids are easy,available, but beyond that they are heavy, not much energy density compared to Lithiums or others.&nbsp; We are close with the Lithium batteries.&nbsp; In the short term, Hydrogen will have to be produced on-site or close to on-site until we figure out how to contain it.&nbsp; Honda has a solar panel powered electrolysis filling station near Washington, I believe. Renewables to produce Hydrogen really need to be in the mix to make Hydrogen practical. The sugars from crops/cellulose are another big part of the answer.
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6 of 15
February 4, 2008
<p>&nbsp;</p><p>Bill Larzelere:&nbsp; My apologies.....&nbsp; I wasn't trying to point out that lead acid was a superior battery by any means.&nbsp;&nbsp; I do know that Lithium batteries are lighter and more efficient than lead acid.&nbsp; The point I was trying to make was that batteries will be a good short term solution, until hydrogen becomes more feasible.&nbsp; Though Hydroegen storage and other things are still a problem, I feel it is a hurdle that will be overcome because fuel cells have so many other&nbsp;advantages over batteries.&nbsp; Namely, they are&nbsp;lighterweight, more efficient, and they can pull thier oxidant out of the air instead of carrying it on board as&nbsp;batteries do.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Hydrogen is not there yet, and batteries&nbsp;are currently a better option, but&nbsp;until you can get&nbsp;Lithium batteries to send a car 350 miles on one charge, don't count on them catching on in the U.S.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;Matt&nbsp; </p>
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7 of 15
February 6, 2008
<p>Sound very interesting.</p><p>Now, E-Coli...Isn't that the main ingredient in crap?</p><p>So, the&nbsp;E-Coli farts, and we suck up the farts and burn them.&nbsp; Is that right?</p><p>My gut feeling is, this is a great idea!&nbsp; Anybody hungry?</p><p>&nbsp;</p>
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8 of 15
February 6, 2008
It is unfortunate that there are so many myths about the difficulty in storing and using hydrogen. Hydogen is far safer than gasoline. Gas puddles and burns from the ground up while hydrogen in a collision would burn above the wreck high in the air. Hydrogen does not leak through metal, in fact tanks from the first world war are still holding hydrogen perfectly well. The Hyndenburg Dirigible burned because the fire started on the flamable skin of the vessel not because of the hydrogen. Most of the people on board lived because the fire was above them not below as would be the case of fossil fuel. Read Roy McAlister's book, 'The Solar Hydrogen Civilization', for the researched truth.
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9 of 15
February 6, 2008
Like we do not have now, we need a thoughtful mix of biofuels, hydrogen, and HEC and PHEV for transport needs. What got us in the pickle we are in now--reliance on one type of liquid fuel for transport needs is what we need to move away from--and fast. A ramped up mix will allow weaning from fossil fuels, limit GHG emmssions, and not create a singular dependence on one fuel type. Why not have &quot;gas&quot; stations with H2 pumps, B80 and E85 pumps (both from non-food sources), and solar/wind sourced charging stations? Wahtever the consumer drives up in than can be accommodated? It can be done.
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10 of 15
February 6, 2008
Human potential is limitless. It is baying at the bit, needing a leader with similar imagination, foresight, and drive. Unfortunately, we have been in the &quot;Dark Ages&quot;... again. It's time for another Renaissance.<br /><br />The fossil fuel dinosaur is dead. Everyone recognizes it. Those that don&rsquo;t, have vested interests, but haven't yet figured out how to make a buck when energy becomes privately generated.<br /><br />THIS should be the number one goal of environmentalists: help legitimate businesses find ways to earn a buck under privately owned energy generation. Apparently they don't know how, and they wield so much economic power.<br /><br />If we can do that, I know change will flood the marketplace. If we don't, the more entrenched people get, the harder it will be to change the situation. It is already approaching juggernaut proportions, and I fear soon we will reach a &quot;critical mass&quot; situation. <br /><br />Peter Karch<br />
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11 of 15
February 6, 2008
<p>There are many starving people in the world today.&nbsp; We need to use crop land to grow food not fuel.&nbsp; Brazil is an example where the Amozon is being wasted to grow fuel.&nbsp; There are many alternative energy possibilities to be researched&nbsp; Sun, wind, tides etc. that can generate electricity, which can be stored for portable (transportation) or stationary use.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Robert Stout</p><p>Southwest Solar Design</p><p>solarrs@gmail.com&nbsp;</p>
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12 of 15
February 6, 2008
<p>congratulations for your great and advanced work!The biofuels field is a very promising scientific and applied field and all we who heve been occupied with it have to try to improve it and find out new technologies.Personally i graduated from the Agricultural University of Athens and my specialty is the applied enzymology which is a part of the biofuels production.At this time i am&nbsp; looking for a university in U.S.A. to make my doctorate on biofuels.Anyone who could provide me any information about this issue,please let's&nbsp;get in touch with me by e-mail.</p><p><a href="mailto:karamitroschristos@yahoo.gr" target="_blank">karamitroschristos@yahoo.gr</a></p><p>i would be grateful.Thank you very much&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>
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13 of 15
February 6, 2008
<p>I cannot for-see any energy source which will beat Hydrogen: That being the case why do Western Governments not pool their resources to get on top of the Hydrogen problem as they did with the development of the Atom Bomb in WW2:</p><p>Hydrogen is a wonderful clean energy source once it is used safely and therein lies the crux of the matter: However, with today's technology and the will to forge ahead we could all face a bright peaceful future away from the middle eastern oil cartels who can stick their oil where the sun don't shine:</p><p>We seem to be moving ahead with hesitant unsure steps without any direction&nbsp;from our leading politicians&nbsp;who seem to lack&nbsp;the courage to grab this wonderful opportunity to put us back in the lead and show the world what can be done with courage and forsight:</p>
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14 of 15
February 10, 2008
<p>Hydrogen may not be the answer for transport due to the huge energy costs of compressing or liquifying it.&nbsp; The new technology of adsorbing it on to certain sintered light metals may or may not get around this problem.&nbsp; Hydrogen will come into its own as a way of storing excess energy when renewables are producing energy in excess of demand.&nbsp; See</p><p>http://mtkass.blogspot.com/2007/10/excess-energy-what-to-do.html&nbsp;</p>
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15 of 15
February 10, 2008
I can't understand why a society that regularily uses and transports LPG, Gasoline, and diesel considers Hydrogen particularily dangerous.&nbsp; If&nbsp; you have a hydrogen leak, the hydrogen rises into the air and clears away from the hydrogen tank.&nbsp; If you have a hydrogen fire, a fire ball rises up and is gone.&nbsp; Liquid fuels and heavier-than-air vapour (all the alkanes above ethane) flow along the ground and into drains looking for a spark.&nbsp; If they ignite they stay on the ground and light up everything they come in contact with.&nbsp; The same will be the case with the proposed alcohols.&nbsp; Methanol and ethanol are particularily nasty since you can't even see the flame.
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