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Renewable Energy Leaders Urge Congress, Bush to Extend Tax Credits Quickly

By Jim Pierobon, Contributing Writer
January 22, 2008   |   31 Comments

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"Congress will be raising taxes on clean, domestic, renewable energy sources and will undercut one of the fastest growing segments of the U.S. economy. With the nation facing a possible recession, it is difficult to imagine a worse time to destabilize America's rapidly growing renewable energy sector."

--Joint AWEA, SEIA, NHA, and GEA statement
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1 of 31
January 22, 2008
http://greenwombat.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/01/22/clock-ticking-on-crucial-solar-investment-tax-credit/#comments

This needs to get done asap.
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2 of 31
January 22, 2008
Well I really hope they extend the tax credit, but I am very skeptical. The current white house administration and congress has already cut off the legs of a thriving industry by eliminating the federal tax credits at the end of 2007. Now the economy is in trouble and they (the govt.) are looking for possible ways to "stimulate" the economy by dropping interest rates further and giving households tax credits to keep them spending. I feel the last thing on their mind is to actually do the most obvious, which is to give the renewable energy industry a shot to compete on an even playing field. I agree with Congresswomen Hilda Solis's green collar job bill, it's obvious that green jobs can stimulate the economy MUCH MORE than the worthless "economic stimulation" plan rigged up by Bush and Bernanke.

-Deep Patel
www.gogreensolar.com
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3 of 31
January 23, 2008
...and, for those of you here showing your Democrat stripes, I'm wondering if you will be calling the next president (Democrat) "the biggest nincompoop ever to occupy the White House" when She fails to turn the big ship around on a dime. 
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4 of 31
January 23, 2008
<p>I think that we are all talking (actually, complaining) about the same thing on subsidies: those against any - for anyone, and those who are for everything for everyone.&nbsp; It all works out to essentially wish that everyone's pet energy source is being treated fairly (even &quot;playing feild&quot;).&nbsp; </p><p>AND, as most of you know, big money = big influence = unfair advantage.</p><p>What we need to do is to constantly e-mail / write / call our State reprensentitives every month.&nbsp; If enough of us do it (I do) then we will start to be noticed.</p>
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5 of 31
January 23, 2008
Al this talk needs to get to our legislators. They are the ones who can make this happen-or not&hearts;
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6 of 31
January 23, 2008
<p>&quot;Already, we are seeing sales and new project announcements drop off,&quot; the associations declared in a rare joint statement at a news conference.</p><p>You can only&nbsp;blame your high prices for this. There is a way for Renewable Energies to rise above the esatblished infrastructure of energy providers and its not going to happen as long as your trying to ride on their coat tails mimicking what they do. Think about it. Your&nbsp;trying to sit&nbsp;down at their table, in their house, playing with their cards, by their rules. How can you hope to win under those circumstances?</p><p>Make new rules of your own for a&nbsp;start. Why would anyone&nbsp;want to become filthy stinking rich from the sale of any kind of energy? Especially when the human race does not need all of this energy. They only want it.</p>
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7 of 31
January 23, 2008
<p>An American Citizen Urges Renewable Energy Leaders to Lower Their Prices So That Mainstream American Citizens Can Afford Renewable Energies.</p><p>That is to say, without having to jump through hoops in order to get U.S. Government tax incentives or getting loans that will have intrest to pay as well as principle. If you want to&nbsp;talk about having to pay for something out of more than one pocket then look no farther than the&nbsp;Renewable Energies Industries. They cry and they wine because they cant get the same U.S. Government subsidies as the Oil or Electricity providers. What if they got it? Wouldnt that make them just like the those providers? Do you really believe that this would make them lower thier prices? Dont count on it! They are no different than anybody else. They want as much as they cant get for as little as possible in return.&nbsp; </p>
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8 of 31
January 23, 2008
Comment 3 raises a good marketing point. Why don't&nbsp;our renewable energy leaders get together with a green company like Google and arrange funding for a&nbsp;RE advertising campaign blitz on prime-time TV?
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9 of 31
January 23, 2008
<span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Verdana">I drove&nbsp;from&nbsp;Dallas&nbsp;to Midland, TX last weekend.&nbsp; The number of wind turbines&nbsp;being built in west Texas is incredible.&nbsp; The construction and operation of these turbines has revitalized many&nbsp;small towns&nbsp;near extinction.&nbsp;&nbsp;If Bush were really a west Texan, he would care, and not threaten to veto the future of west Texas.</span>
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10 of 31
January 23, 2008
<span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Verdana">Why do we need this if&nbsp;a&nbsp;project or technology&nbsp;is already cost effective?&nbsp; Because many lenders still consider wind, solar, and geothermal high to moderate risk projects.&nbsp; Energy developers pay higher interest rates for this money.&nbsp; The tax credit offsets the higher lending&nbsp;interest rates, and makes a good profit less risky.&nbsp; A 30% tax credit can double the profit on a project.&nbsp; All this makes those large capital projects more likely to happen.&nbsp; Those large capital projects provide jobs, and jobs increase the tax base.&nbsp; Increasing the tax base replaces the offset to energy developers while providing jobs, and economic stability.</span>
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11 of 31
January 23, 2008
<span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Verdana">To those who think a &quot;credit&quot; is a handout...</span> <p><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Verdana">Companies who get these credits have to spend the money first.&nbsp; It is not a grant, or loan.&nbsp; It is not a big government &quot;handout.&quot;&nbsp; These companies get a big discount on taxes.&nbsp; Since this industry is new, the credit has a minimal&nbsp;offset on&nbsp;existing tax revenue.&nbsp; </span></p>
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12 of 31
January 23, 2008
For Paul & Dave:

The oil, gas and coal industries have been permanently subsidized by Congress since 1916 and 1932, respectively. The subsidies are not for job creation, but rather come in the form of dramatically accelerated depreciation for capital investment (pipelines, drill rigs, mine equipment); deductions for the production of resources, known as "depletion allowances" - i.e., when your well or mine has less oil or coal in it, you can deduct that "loss" from your income; and highly creative royalty relief programs for doing the country the "service' of drilling and mining.

You can learn all about it here: http://www.taxpayer.net/greenscissors/LearnMore/senatefossilfuelsubsidies.htm

If the oil, gas and coal industries are willing to give up all their subsidies - including the hidden externalities - and compete on a level playing field, I'm sure the renewables industry would be willing to give it a shot.
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13 of 31
January 23, 2008
With the American economy nose diving into a depression, perhaps it is time for President Bush to announce a New New Deal the way Rosevelt did.&nbsp; Rosevelt's New Deal set America up with a road network, electricity generation and so forth and set the stage for her to become the economic power house of the world - all at discount rates.&nbsp; Bushes New New Deal would set America up as a country completely independent of outside energy sources and set the stage for a revival of her fortunes.
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14 of 31
January 23, 2008
The tax credits as is are not enough, and now they are at risk of being shaved as the president's horrible economic stimulus program is pushed forward.&nbsp; Wind power just pumped $9 billion in investments into the U.S. economy, and as usual legislative red tape and hand wringing could shelve a large number of renewable energy projects over the next two+ years. What a shame indeed. Yes it's imperative that we do something to jumpstart the economy, but once again this administration is taking their sweet time and allowing serious economic and environmental legislation pass right by with barely a head nod.
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15 of 31
January 23, 2008
<p>Wind is incredibly cheap when you consider how much of the cost is eaten up by legal fees, other bureaucracy-compliance costs and then land-lease costs.&nbsp; </p><p>If economies of scale applied to things so heavily regulated, shouldn't costs come down even further for wind, as people whip out the boiler-plate language faster?</p><p>I like solar better for de-centralizing power generation for cities, and the politics will probably take us there eventually. &nbsp;</p><p>The irony about Bush is, I hear he has solar on his ranch.&nbsp; It's not that he doesn't like it for those who can afford it. &nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>I agree congressional corruption is a huge problem.&nbsp; Only one presidential candidate that I know of takes anti-corruption words into the temple and suffers booing in consequence. &nbsp; </p>
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16 of 31
January 23, 2008
<p>I really wish someone could detail out these oil and gas &quot;subsidies&quot;.</p><p>I'm not an expert either, but many of the tax breaks available to oil &amp; gas industries are also available to other industries such as creating jobs.</p><p>Dave, well said.&nbsp; Congress is more guilty.</p>
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17 of 31
January 23, 2008
<p>I've said it before, and history and proved it true. Bush will never take action unless he is sure that it is harmful to the country. If he can bring down our economy, and he's doing a great job at it, his oil and corporate buddies will get rich buying up assets for pennies on the dollar.</p><p>The day of celebration is less than a year away. I hope it's not too late for the renewable industry when Bush is finally gone.</p>
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18 of 31
January 23, 2008
how much do oil and gas get in subsidies? Isn't that what we're talking about? Shifting subsidies from old tech to new tech? How much would oil cost if we weren't subsidizing it? And, it is a limited resource. It will run out. It will get more expensive. It's dirty and costs a lot to get and refine. I'd rather subsidize something else.
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19 of 31
January 23, 2008
Bush is clearly the biggest nincompoop ever to occupy the White House.
But if these wind and solar projects are so great, why do they need these subsidies?
It's because they are over hyped and distract us from tough measures we really need like carbon taxes.
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20 of 31
January 23, 2008
<p>Everyone would be better off if they just let all these subsidies end.</p><p>The primary industry that needs these welfare checks is Solar PV. Solar PV is still an over priced joke coming in at $.39 to $.21 per kwh (with an interest free loan for capital) against a national average electrical cost below $.10 per kwh (whole sale and includes the cost of capital loan) Source Solar Buzz.</p><p>At best, Solar pv is 2 to 4 times more expensive than normal power sources. </p><p>That's the truth.&nbsp; Its cheaper to dump it than to keep it. </p><p>In contrast, Wind Power comes in at as low as $.03 to $.06 per kwh and is competitive against other power sources. It doesn't need a subsidy, but its in line for one. Why pass up free money if a dumby (US tax payers) are going to give it to you?&nbsp;</p>
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21 of 31
January 23, 2008
<p>Mr. Merrill.....We all know the exec. branch doesn't write policy (well except when they include all of the sneaky bill signing statements....sneaky for sure). But this is Washington and politics rule. It is a scratch my back scratch your back thing. And even though the Bushies in the White House don't write the policy, it is all the Buhies in the Congress that are mucking things up in America. This US Presidency, and Vice Presidency to be more accurate, has really made America weaker than it was when they arrived. </p><p>In any event I hope Congress wakes up and makes the right decision. </p>
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22 of 31
January 23, 2008
<p>How many times do I need to remind you guys / gals that bashing &quot;the current administration&quot; is really off base and just shows your political feelings...not your intelligence (or in this case the lack thereof).</p><p>The US president does not write policy - nor can he vote in any of the congress sessions where 100% of the bills are passed or cut.&nbsp; He can only veto bills, which has been&nbsp;statistically rare.&nbsp; And remember, a veto still can't write / pass bills.</p><p>100% of your dissatifaction needs to be focused on your House and Senate representitives.&nbsp; Think people!&nbsp;</p>
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23 of 31
January 23, 2008
<p>We need to step up to the plate and pass the PTC for wind and the ITC for solar immediately.&nbsp; Companies like ours are putting holds on next years projects and not hiring for the future due to the uncertainty of project economics. With the economy looking questionable, why would we kill an industry that could literally explode in the next 5 years creating 100's of thousands of jobs.&nbsp; I can tell you that a NO investment in ITC and PTC will have a far greater cost to the economy than a YES.&nbsp; As a developer, a no vote for the ITC and PTC means we will have 45 less jobs over the next 5 years.</p><p>John Curtis - Founder - Green Energy Capital Partners</p><p>www.GreenEnergyFinder.com&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>
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24 of 31
January 23, 2008
<p>the question that will hopefully come out is:</p><p>&nbsp;Was BUSH blocking the oil subsidy grab or was he blocking the ITC?</p>
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25 of 31
January 23, 2008
<p>In my business 101 class way back when, we talked about why buggy whip manufacturers went out of business. It because they failed to realize that they made accelerators, not buggy whips. Oil and gas companies make energy, not oil and gas. Their failure to change should not be our problem. If it can't happen during this administration, it surely will during the next. </p><p>The question is; who will want this kind of positive change on their legacy? Renewable energy is the proverbial irresistable force. The object in the way will move in November. </p>
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26 of 31
January 23, 2008
<p>Yes, we need to ensure renewable energy tax credits continue but we need to also push for more progressive tax policies.&nbsp; Ones that get the market to tell the truth about the real cost of fossil fuels.&nbsp; We need to restructure the tax system by reducing taxes on work and income&nbsp;and raising them on environmentally destructive activities like polluting and wasteful resource use.&nbsp; We need to package&nbsp; eco taxes or carbon taxes or pollution taxes in a nice glossy presentation, one understandable by the mall generation, to build support for this tax revolution.&nbsp; A good commerical during the superbowl would be nice.&nbsp; Can tie in the Boston Tea Party and tax revolution with the New England Patriots.&nbsp; I am sure the American Coal Industry will have its Ads ready to go.&nbsp; </p>
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27 of 31
January 24, 2008
Chris - I agree with you - and we shall see...&nbsp; My hopes are up, but my fear of business as usual is lurking in the back of my mind.
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28 of 31
January 24, 2008
<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">Mathew,</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">Thanks for the subsidies link.&nbsp; It is a bit dated as it is from 2003.&nbsp; Does anyone know if there is more current info, similarly summarized like this.&nbsp; For example, did the Senate Bills that were then proposed to extend the tax credits for oil, coal and gas through 2013 get passed in one form or another?<span>&nbsp; </span>I do think the issue of a level playing field, i.e. subsidies for all or subsidies for none, is relevant.<span>&nbsp; </span>It is hard for a relatively new industry like wind or solar to compete with ones that have a 75-100 year head start, plus massive subsidies.</span> <p>&nbsp;</p>
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29 of 31
January 24, 2008
<p>Thanks for the info Matthew.&nbsp; According to this source the subsidies are down to between $4B - $30B/yr.&nbsp; There is no question these should be eliminated.</p><p>Accounting for externalities has always been the larger issue.&nbsp; A carbon tax would do it.&nbsp;&nbsp;This would be&nbsp;a tax&nbsp;I would support even as a free market supporter.</p>
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30 of 31
January 24, 2008
<p>Dave:</p><p>Should the next President show the same level of ignorance/contempt regarding the RE industry as to pledge to veto any Bill that removed the subsidies to Big Oil thus forcing the removal of the tax title we are discussing, the moniker of nincompoop (and more) shall be well deserved.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>
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31 of 31
January 27, 2008
&nbsp;I see the validity of the argument that solar or wind should not receive the subsidies that oil and gas have. But lets be honest, because of those subsidies, grat advancements in areas of technological innovation have occured. Oil is a basic chemical for how many millions of products. Who knows what will come from heavy duty support for the new emerging tech markets.
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