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By Ken Silverstein, EnergyBiz Insider
July 6, 2007   |   10 Comments

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"As long as the returns are attractive, this will be a period of rapid deployment. We will build out our portfolio."

-- Steve Lant, CH Energy Group, CEO
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1 of 10
July 6, 2007
<p>Hi&nbsp; <span> EUGENE Lucas</span>.</p><p>I quote you on www.neo-aerodynamic.com&nbsp;</p><p>Thanks</p><p>Phi&nbsp;</p>
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2 of 10
July 6, 2007
Two percent is peanuts, and people can't be expected to support &quot;...emerging technologies that are still expensive...&quot; forever.&nbsp; What we need are &quot;emerging technologies&quot; that can compete directly with existing technologies on a head-to-heade basis, without mandates and rebates (hidden taxes). Solar research has nearly done its work, both in PV and film, but development money is too little.&nbsp; We must take the lab to the factory - on an expedited and priority basis.&nbsp; The effect on emerging &quot;expensive&quot; technologies will be very dramatic - even disastrous (for them).&nbsp; If we can make competitive off-grid local power, all bets are off.
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3 of 10
July 7, 2007
<p>Eugene,</p><p>I agree with your point. Green power will only be widely deployed when they are cost effective. The current generation of Solar Power is an expensive joke with very few pratical applications. The next generation of PV panels are supposedly so great, that Solar Power will be every where just by market forces. So we should do almost - nothing. </p><p>In contrast to Solar, Wind is often cost effective right now. It is so sucussful that the Unitied States, by itself, is installing 10x as much Wind Power as the whole world deployment of Solar Power on an annual basis. Why? Because Wind is installed to makes money, Solar is installed to make welfare/subsidies checks.</p><p>No one is opposing Green Power when it makes money, just when it is a welfare program.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>
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4 of 10
July 11, 2007
<p>We are developing a breakthrough renewable energy system that converts a previously uncommercialized source of energy.</p><p>Our website is: magneticpowerinc.com </p><p>See the three articles on the Title page for a quick overview. Note that this system will allow cars to become power plants when parked. </p>
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5 of 10
July 11, 2007
<p>Hydrogen/Oxygen in an &quot;ENCLOSED COMBUSTION CHAMBER&quot;, only creates HEAT AND WATER, NO POLLUTION.&nbsp; H2 &amp; O2 can be created and banked using renewable sources.</p><p>Water, using electrolysis &amp; renewable energy sources at non-peak times, will delivery all the H2 &amp; O2 the world will require.</p><p>THE HYDROGEN ECONOMY IS HERE AND THOSES THAT IGNOR IT, WILL BE SORRY THAT THEY DID NOT ADVOCATE IT.</p>
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6 of 10
July 11, 2007
<span style="font-size: 12pt"><font face="Times New Roman">As energy costs continue to rise worldwide, innovators desire to seek out new technologies to meet the rising demand for sustainable energy.<span> </span>Finding an inexpensive and reliable source of energy is a challenge in many developed and developing countries<span>.</span><span style="layout-grid-mode: line; color: black"> Advanced technologies, mass production, economies of scale and improved operation will together enable a reduction in the cost of solar electricity to a level competitive with other power sources within the next 10 to 15 years. However, </span><span style="layout-grid-mode: line">The performance of Concentric Solar Plants (CSP) depends not only on the energy demand, but also on meteorological conditions, and of course, on its design [1,2,3]. The major hindrance for CSP implementation is the relatively high specific investment cost of the solar collector systems. The availability of solar power is restricted by the natural fluctuations of the energy source. At a first glance, this seems to limit severely the possibility of generating high-revenue peak-load power as well as low-cost base load power. But the mentioned drawbacks can be reduced by two technical solutions<span>:</span> The first solution is the hybridization of the solar power plants with fossil backup systems<span>.</span> In this case, fuel is used as additive energy source to complete the desired energy output of the plant<span>.</span> Only the hybrid concepts offer high power availability for base load and for peak load<span> </span>operation [2,3], which makes them the most suitable for utility application<span>. </span>The second solution is the integration of energy storage systems into the solar plant [4]. In combination with an augmented solar collector field, storage allows an increase in annual solar operating hours and compensates short time fluctuations in the solar energy input<span>.</span></span></font></span><span style="font-weight: normal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">&nbsp;</font></span><span style="font-weight: normal"><font size="3"><font face="Times New Roman">1. Hussain Alrobaei , 2006 , <u>Repowering and Modification of Grid Connected Reverse Osmosis Desalination Plants</u>/</font></font></span><font face="Times New Roman"><strong><span><span><font size="2">&nbsp;</font></span></span></strong><span style="font-size: 12pt; layout-grid-mode: line">The Energy Central Network/ energycentral.com/centers/knowledge/whitepapers.<span>&nbsp; </span></span><strong><span style="font-size: 12pt"></span></strong></font><span style="font-weight: normal"><font size="3"><font face="Times New Roman">2. Hussain Alrobaei , 2007, <u>Novel Integrated Gas Turbine Solar Cogeneration Power Plant</u>/DEC, Halkidiki, Greece ,22&ndash;25 April 2007.</font></font></span><span style="font-size: 12pt"><font face="Times New Roman">3. Hussain Alrobaei,2006, </font><a href="../../centers/knowledge/whitepapers/report.cfm?rid=102295" target="_blank"><span class="a"><span style="color: black"><font face="Times New Roman">Integrated Gas Turbine Solar Power Pl<span>a</span>nt</font></span></span></a><a target="_blank"></a><font face="Times New Roman">/<span style="layout-grid-mode: line"> The Energy Central Network/ energycentral.com/centers/knowledge/whitepapers.<span>&nbsp; </span></span><strong></strong></font></span><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 150%"><font face="Times New Roman">4. Hussain Alrobaei ,2002,<span>&nbsp; </span><u>Study the Effectiveness of Hybrid Solar Multiple Effect Distillation Plants</u>/</font></span><font face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 150%"><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>1<sup>ST</sup> International Congress of Mechanics &ndash; </span><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 150%">Constantine</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 150%"> ( ICM-C<sup>02 </sup>), Department of Mechanical Engineering / </span></font><font face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 150%"><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 150%">University of Constantine</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 150%">,</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 150%">Algeria</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 150%">, December 14: 16, 2002.<span>&nbsp; </span></span></font>
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7 of 10
July 11, 2007
<font size="2"><p>Let me cry in my (increasing in price because of misguided ethanol production) beer for the jack booted, polluting utilities. The real cost of burning fossil fuels is passed on to us in the form of environmental destruction and illness. Level the field by stopping the subsidies (Our hard earned money stolen by the Fed-Mafia and given to the polluters) and by strict laws to make the fossil burners clean up their act. Pay the full price for power at the utility bill and you will see existing conservation technologies implemented and you will see that it is a lie that Renewables are more expensive.</p><p>Christina Nelson, theoriginalcoffeecompanyonline.com&nbsp;</p></font>
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8 of 10
<p>GAO and AG reviews verified TVA sold and charged extra for green power annually double the total&nbsp; capacity of TVA green generation. The penalty for TVA cheating was zero with last page obsecure coverage.&nbsp; The green power generated by TVA was the hydro installed by Alcoa Aluminum in 1920 before TVA was created. TVA&nbsp;confiscated&nbsp;the hydro dams&nbsp;as a WWII project. 10% of TVA power is 100 year old, low cost&nbsp;hydro that qualifies as green power.</p><p>The lowest cost energy in the US is green hydro generated in Washington State, not to be confused with Washington, DC. Some Washingon (State) Customers pay less than 3C/KwH for green hydro electricity grid delivered.&nbsp; The highest cost,&nbsp;under-utilized largest quantity&nbsp;energy in the US is generated in Washington, DC.&nbsp;Low cost green&nbsp;wind generators would never run slow&nbsp;in Washington DC on hot air.</p>
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9 of 10
July 11, 2007
<p><strong>Jim,</strong></p><p>Wind rides the subsidy wave much more than solar does at this point...$2 billion in subsidies for wind while solar currently receives about $60 million a year.</p><p>Do some reading/research before you make such claims...every heard of dispatchability?&nbsp; I bet not.&nbsp;</p>
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10 of 10
July 11, 2007
I agree&nbsp;renewable energy&nbsp;industries need more cost competitive technologies, which&nbsp;requires more development money.&nbsp; But more venture money will not come until&nbsp;Congress stops&nbsp;blocking competition&nbsp;in both regulated and deregulated states.
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