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Google Powers Up 1.6 MW Solar System & Hybrid Initiative

By Meghan Murphy, Contributing Writer
June 20, 2007   |   35 Comments
Google.org to fund more than $10 M to accelerate plug-in hybrid and vehicle-to-grid technology.

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"Clean energy technology can dramatically shift how we make and use energy for our cars and homes by charging cars through an electric grid powered by solar or other renewable energy sources, and selling power back to the electric grid when it's needed most. This approach can quadruple the fuel efficiency of cars on the road today and improve grid stability."

-- Dr. Larry Brilliant, head of Google.org
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1 of 35
June 19, 2007
Great idea.  I'd like to  find  out the specifications of  the pannels, especially  the efficiency .
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2 of 35
June 20, 2007
I'm very excited about this. I just bought my second hybrid, we have a prius and a hylander now. My whole reason for going with this technology was my hope for the plug in to really come in to focus by the time my warranty runs out! Does anyone think that Toyota will do a plug in modification that won't void the warranty? Is that part of the goal of Plug in America? I would do it tomorrow if they would. I think Google is paving the way for corporate America - and I am grateful to them for doing so.
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3 of 35
June 20, 2007
<p>Google has taken an excellent first step!</p><p>We are developing breakthrough magnetic energy conversion systems. Unlike solar, this revolutionary technology can generate electricity 24/7 at modest cost.</p><p>Within the next 12 months, a demonstration with a hybrid Prius is expected to replace the need for a plug, by providing a pair of on-board 1 kW solid-state generators. </p><p>These Magnetic Power Modules(tm) can also be linked together to power homes.</p><p>With further development, they can replace the need for engines or fuel-cells to power vehicles.</p><p>Skeptics will be legion. They will soon find, to their surprise, that this is real technology that can help to rapidly reduce the need for fossil or nuclear fuels.</p><p>Our website is: magneticpowerinc.com</p><p>&nbsp;Mark Goldes, Chairman &amp; CEO, Magnetic Power Inc. </p>
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4 of 35
June 20, 2007
<p>Google is to be congratulated for more than just good citizenship. The various grants are great, but saving almost $400k/yr is great too!</p><p>&nbsp;</p>
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5 of 35
June 20, 2007
One LARGE 'Atta-Boy !&quot; award, coming up...!!&nbsp;&nbsp; Go Google !!
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6 of 35
June 20, 2007
Regarding the shading effect of roof-mounted panels, evacuated tube solar thermal collectors&nbsp;significantly reduce solar gain, because virtually no solar IR heat is radiated through the roof.&nbsp; This reduction in solar gain reduces building A/C loads.&nbsp; Non-evacuated thermal collectors radiate more IR heat than evacuated tubes, but solar gain is still reduced.&nbsp; PV panels do radiate IR heat to the roof, and this is mitigated by air circulation that cools the back of the panels.&nbsp; Flat roof PV mounting blocks provide some insulating effect to reduce solar gain.
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7 of 35
June 20, 2007
It looks like the modules face south, east &amp; west and points inbetween. They are at a low angle or flat. Mountain View has early morning fog. It seems the system is performing very well, considering the conditions.
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8 of 35
June 20, 2007
<p>AMAZING, in a rush, couldn't read all !&nbsp; I pray everyone has seen the WHO KILLED THE ELECTRIC CAR !&nbsp; I wish Google had looked into my favorite German, Physics Professors Dr &amp; Dr Laing of California : PYRON SOLAR !&nbsp; PS 122 vs 06 !</p><p>prm jr.&nbsp; BLATANT INSTRUCTIONALITY !&nbsp; Chow !</p>
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9 of 35
June 20, 2007
Kudos to Google for being out in front.&nbsp;&nbsp; The high start-up cost of PV systems as well as the existing infrastructure dictate commercial rather than private development, so a project like this is perfectly appropriate.&nbsp; <strong>YOU GO, Google!!</strong>
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10 of 35
June 20, 2007
Fabulous.&nbsp; Let's see more companies and communities embrace technology and renewable energy in the way Google has.&nbsp;
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11 of 35
June 20, 2007
It has to be the way of the future ,Im from australia and we are way behind you guys.We have to get off our addiction to oil and coal,oil&nbsp;is running out anyway ,hopefully coal will become reduntant as an energy source.If China sees the rest of the world cleaning its act up ,they may feel pressured to end its coal fired power station construction(currently at TWO going on line a week).USA has to lead the way on this stuff.&nbsp;&nbsp;
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12 of 35
June 20, 2007
<p>Google has really got their act together.&nbsp; Both the solar panel and plug-in hybrid initative is very forward thinking - just what the country needs to address the looming energy and climate crisis.&nbsp; More corporations need be like Google when it comes to social responsibility and implementing progressive ideas (most are just the opposite). </p><p>Can someone explain how selling power back to the grid works?&nbsp; Sounds like a great idea, but doesn't it impact the charge held by the car battery (aren't you reducing battery power that you need to drive with?)&nbsp;&nbsp; </p><p>As a Prius owner, I'm also interested in an affordable plug-in conversion kit - or an affordable plug-in hybrid vehicle that you can actually buy.&nbsp; I simply refuse to buy another car or truck unless it is a plug-in.&nbsp; </p><p>There is a good site on wiki at&nbsp; <a href="http://www.eaa-phev.org/" target="_blank">http://www.eaa-phev.org</a> and there is a list of plug-in hybrid aftermarket&nbsp; converters&nbsp; at http://www.google.org/recharge/resources.html&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p>
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13 of 35
June 20, 2007
<p><strong>Take note, Architects.&nbsp; Drive to work and plug-in.&nbsp; This should be everywhere.&nbsp; Private money from the likes of Google is paying back the community via clean energy measures.&nbsp; Just the PR alone makes Google worth every penny it earns. Great job, GoogGood.</strong></p><p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p>Thank you,&nbsp; congratulations, experience is piling up.</p><p>I am in Belgrade, Serbia and environmentalist looking ho to chanel alternative energy sources.</p><p>Our estimation is that Solar Energy is very expensive up to now. How to ',ake it cheaper' is our question and any suggestion towards solution will be hihly appreciated and welcome.&nbsp;</p>
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15 of 35
June 20, 2007
<p>It is good to see new systems up and running but, as some have commented, total productions seems to be below&nbsp; what might be expected . Lets give it some time to see results over several months.</p><p>There is a smaller system (100Kwatt) that publishes its results on the web . They have been up for about 10 months and from my perspective the results are below expectations as well. It sure does change the financial justification numbers if these results are all we should expect. Below is the web site with live data on production from the Toronto site</p><p>http://view2.fatspaniel.net/FST/Portal/TorontoHorsePalace/&nbsp;</p>
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16 of 35
June 20, 2007
<p>I would like to know whether the shading effect of solar cells has value , and whether the heat generated by the solar cells is&nbsp; removed somehow or ends up in the roof. I expected to see more space betwen the solar cells and the roof to allow free air flow for cooling, but its hard to see from the pictures.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>It would also be nice to see the google energy demand curve against the supply curve on their site to see how&nbsp; good the match is.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Google has the potential to produce a lot of great PR as wella s valuable data as&nbsp; this site matures.&nbsp;</p>
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17 of 35
June 20, 2007
Congratulations Google for the forward thinking and mindset that is an example for our national leaders to follow.
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18 of 35
June 20, 2007
<p>I would also be very interested to hear about the plug-in mod for the Prius. This must be a major modification, since the standard Prius is not designed to be driven as an electric car. The normal battery is only a small reservoir of power to allow the gasoline engine to be kept in its optimum rev range. This battery is charging and discharging every few minutes during normal driving. In electric-only mode the Prius will only go a few miles at a maximum of 30mph. A huge increase in battery capacity must have been added for the plug-in version but I assume it still runs with the gasoline engine at higher speeds? Does anyone know about this conversion?</p>
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19 of 35
June 20, 2007
<p>Congratulations upon the successful completion of this massive PV system!</p><p>As a Prius owner, I would like to learn the source of the plug-in charger modification.&nbsp;</p><p>As far as the performance of this system, although the numbers look impressive at&nbsp; 9,900 kWh&nbsp; of&nbsp; energy production for the day, on 19th of June; the system&nbsp; may still need to be&nbsp; fine-tuned a bit.&nbsp; Given&nbsp; that&nbsp; at solar noon the incident angle&nbsp; on the&nbsp; panels&nbsp; is roughly&nbsp; 16 degrees.&nbsp; With the maximum irridiance&nbsp; at&nbsp; 960 w/m*m,&nbsp; one&nbsp; should expect&nbsp; the&nbsp; total&nbsp; peak power&nbsp; to be&nbsp; nearly (9212 * 208 * .9 * .92 * .94 * .96=) 1.43 MW.&nbsp; The registered value was 1.223MW.&nbsp; We may be seeing an unexplained system loss of 14%.&nbsp; This rough calculattion is based on Sharp 208W modules being used through-out the system.</p><p>Someone might take a closer look at the system installation, or commissioning.</p>
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20 of 35
June 20, 2007
Brilliant indeed. Google sets the standard for forward thinking enterprises that can have a huge impact on a superpositive future. The planet is breathing a litttle easier today.
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21 of 35
June 20, 2007
Its about time all the big corporates in US and other fossil oil dependent countries start investing in developing Electric cars and also pressurize governments into investing aggressively into&nbsp; development of electric cars. This will stop the flow of money going to&nbsp;foriegn governments and also generate income and jobs in america. People should boycott corporations not ready to invest in renewables and also people should form groups which will openly vote against senetors not implementing renewables like electric cars. Imagine people drive only electric cars in US in another 10 years all&nbsp;the US&nbsp;troops will be back from middleeast and also&nbsp;reduce global warming.
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22 of 35
I think the biggest benefit from this is that it helps make the cultural shift pushing it closer&nbsp; to a mainstream idea.
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23 of 35
I think that it&acute;s a great idea and it&acute;s very important that all companies&nbsp; will have&nbsp; an ecology&nbsp; mentality and they will use their installations and buildings&nbsp; in the way of renovable energies.
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24 of 35
June 22, 2007
Excellent feat . Having a gigantic Solar installation of 1.6 MW&nbsp;is a unique example in the world&nbsp;and demonstartion of our will to fight and slow down global warming, which is told to be man made.Kudos to Googles&nbsp;I wish as a practicing solar energy scientist, I could join and be a part of these ambitious projects for furthering the cut down in green house gases emissions.
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25 of 35
June 23, 2007
Google could go one step farther: work toward making nearby housing available for purchase or rent by employees, reducing the commute distance and resultant energy expenditure.
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26 of 35
June 24, 2007
I applaud Google's efforts! Now, let's&nbsp;encourage the rest of corporate America step up to the plate!
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27 of 35
June 24, 2007
9468 KWH OF ELECTRICITY GENERATED (ON A CLEAR DAY) $393,000 PROJECTED YEARLY SAVINGS IT WOULD SEEM THEY ARE PAYING (SAVING) 42 CENTS A KWH. AT THAT RATE (ON A GOOD DAY) WE COULD AFFORD A LOT OF SOLAR GEAR. YOU FIGURE. WHO IS KIDDING WHO? THOSE CODERS ARENT TOO SHARP ON THEIR ARITHMATIC. OR PG&amp;E IS REALLY SOCKING IT TO THEM.
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28 of 35
June 30, 2007
<p>Arithmatic n. automatic, arithmetic calculator.</p>
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29 of 35
June 30, 2007
See that's what happens when you use a slide rule, dividing&nbsp; $393,000 by 9468 gives 41.5, however that's $41.50, not $0.42, and we also need to divide that by the number of days in a year to get $0.11/kwh.
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30 of 35
July 1, 2007
<p>Uh Paul,&nbsp; BJ's Wholesale, Estee Lauder, Kohls, Target, Tiffany &amp; Co., Wal-Mart, and the US Air Force have all gone solar - it's not only environmentally better, it's cheaper too.&nbsp; Prices are expected to come down another 40% in the next three years, and with a little government assistance would drop another 60% after that.&nbsp; And no 40% and 60% won't make them free - it drops them to 24% of todays cost. Solar panel costs have dropped almost 90% in the last thirty years, which is why Google says the panels will pay for themselves in 7 1/2 years.&nbsp; For the next 25 to 30 years after that Google gets free electricity from them.&nbsp;</p>
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31 of 35
July 1, 2007
Only a backward multi-billion dollar coder company would consider the solar solution. If it makes&nbsp;anyone feel any better, the Sun is a giant NIMBY nuclear reactor. Google it.
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32 of 35
July 14, 2007
<p>An analysis of the performance of Google's solar plant can be found at:</p><p>http://www.thinksunsmart.com</p><p>click on PV performance database&nbsp;</p>
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33 of 35
April 5, 2008
Solar wind and wave powered desalination plants, supplying the needs of self sustaining off the grid coastal communities in west australia in the near future.I hope.
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Anonymous
July 6, 2010
While I appreciate all of the efforts that can be made towards renewable energy sources, I'm not so sure that Google is a safe company to trust with regards to its intentions with its technology. A better idea would be to allow the technology to come from non-profit funding rather than a company that stands to benefit from promoting a new world order. It's not comforting to know that with Google earth, pictures can be taken of our living spaces within only feet from our houses, so don't tell me that we can't be video taped live and just a little bit closer with that kind of technology. Not to mention collaboration with the web bot project. Look it up.
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35 of 35
July 6, 2010
Oh, and don't say I didn't warn you.
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