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Energy from Hot Air

By Craig Morris, Author & Consultant
April 2, 2007   |   14 Comments
Taking a close look at the U.S. & European renewable energy legacies.

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A closer look, however, reveals that much of this is really only hot air. Anyone can set a target, but what are the mechanisms to reach them? And what about penalties for not reaching them? In the case of AB32, the mechanisms have not been defined. California has until January 1, 2009 to decide how it wants to meet the target, so don't expect too much action in the next two years.

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14 Reader Comments
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1 of 14
April 2, 2007
Minimum-price policy with rates for each type of energy produced and fed into the grid seem to be a better choice than net metering. By establishing direct payment for the energy source, investors are provided with with pay-back according to their investment. This seems logical.

The drawback to net-metering has been that the standard payback seems to discourage investment in technologies that cost more and take more time on payback.

The government would have to establish minimum prices for each type of energy supplied but if this could be done, then the development of renewable energy would be greatly encouraged. As it has shown to work in the EU, it should work here. There is no shame in following European practice if by doing so we can move ahead and build up renewable sources in the US.

adrianakau@aol.com
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2 of 14
April 4, 2007
Frank. If Maine does not have Net Metering and you are attempting to bring pressure to implement it, I am all for doing so as Net Metering is better than No Metering.

I was thinking that Minimum-price policy might produce more of an incentive than Net-Metering since it seems to be working well in Europe but I could be wrong.

I think that the participation of home/small business/farm owners to become electricity generators would benefit the growth of renewable power in our country, even if it might require changes in insurance policy rules and other changes as well. We should be thinking of moving into the future and individual energy independence, whenever possible, would be good to lessen grid line and to booster power on it.

I think this concept will lead to the development of some good safety devices for homes/business interacting with grid service.

adrianakau@aol.com
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3 of 14
April 4, 2007
Bush understands the benefits of some of the most advanced energy technologies. Next year, he will leave office.
"applause"

And again...I say: a big round of applause. By putting PV on the Whitehouse roof, Bush does what he is best at...deceive.
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4 of 14
April 4, 2007
Bush understands the benefits of some of the most advanced energy technologies. Next year, he will leave office.
"applause"
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5 of 14
April 4, 2007
This continuing debate over the efficacy of European-style feed-in tarriffs versus net metering is itself a bunch of hot air so long as it ignores the realities of U.S. politics. Even in the states that allow net metering, compensation for excess electricity at the retail rate is rare (see NNEC's "Freeing the Grid" report at www.NewEnergyChoices.org). Regulated utilities have managed to convince commissioners that compensation represents a subsidy to upper-class homeowners. Opponents in Missouri even charged that it "taxes other rate payers and gives [homeowners] a subsidy for a hobby." A HOBBY!!

Imagine the political hurdles one would have to overcome to pass direct subsidies like feed-in tariffs in this country. Net metering is a good first step because it can be sold as a market-based solution that provides fair compensation for homeowners and small businesses investing in energy self-reliance. That's something most Americans (even Republicans) can buy.
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6 of 14
April 4, 2007
Dear James R.
I seriously doubt that you were a Republican and I also seriously doubt if you carefully read this article. Pointing out a glaring inefficiency concerning implementation mechanisms is not being a "naysayer".
FYI--net metering's value (roughly 50% of retail rate) is not going to the main driver for solar development--solar RECs sold into the most "appropriate" RPS can fetch anywhere from 4-10 times the value of the energy produced (on the east coast and CA)--you have to understand each state level RPS to do so.
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7 of 14
April 4, 2007
I used to be a republican until this administration highjacked the GOP for oil, profit and war. You made some extremely valuable and valid points and then discounted the entire article by praising George Bush's environmentalism. He has done more damsge by doing nothing than many overt polluters.

Gore may not have all the answers or have invented the electrnet, any more than the internet, but his is putting his name and face out there and asking, "why". My god man, every effort has to start somewhere. People like you are such naysayers if a particular solution or proposal is not a panecea you through out the baby with the bath water.

Instead of finding fault, find a solution. It's easy to point your finger and say what is wrong, try pointing your mind and becoming a part of the forward moving renewable energy force for change. Any idea beats the inertia demonstrated by the Bush Oil cartel over the pat 6 1/2 years.
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8 of 14
April 4, 2007
Adrian...We are bringing pressure on Maine's Energy Policy Office to implement NET METERING. I believe it would usher in a wave of wind, solar, and bio-refinery options.

Electric utility regulation is complex, if not baffling and occult.

To do it your way---I think, would require the home/small business/farm owner to become a generator and that triggers all kinds of rules on insurance policies, etc.

I just ordered a STERLING ENGINE that is powered by my coffee cup's heat. I think we could make a GOREHAT powered off of his hot air or shape it like a crown befitting the CARBON KING.
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9 of 14
April 4, 2007
Even when it is already done it is still a good suggestion.

In Holland we promote sustainable and renewable energy by a foundation it is called IDET with a webadress www.idet. A lot of suggestions for sustainable options for householdings. www.idet.nl under the label duurzaam opwekken.

Martin Kleintunte
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10 of 14
April 5, 2007
I too was a Republican (still am registered as such). I voted against Clinton (actually thought it was the end of the nation when he won the 1992 election), and I voted for Bush in 2000. Now, I am a dyed-in-the-wool environmentalist and humanist, which means Bush is akin to the anti-Christ.

I have a 5.2KW PV installation, but we have no true net-metering in Arizona. Thus, I pay 8.5 cents/KWh, but only receive back about 2 cents/KWh for anything I put back into the grid. However, we did get in on a very limited time 50% rebate from APS, which is now overwith.

Arizona, and other states, just need to make the costs break even over a 10 year period though true net-metering and tax credits and a lot of people would do it just out of principle. I'll never get my investment back, but I did it out of principle (and a fear that our corrupt govt would allow rates to triple like they did gas prices).

See my panels at: http://www.zapsys.com/solarpanels.jpg
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11 of 14
April 10, 2007
Getting utilities to look beyond net metering is good.

Getting governments to allow new innovations to hyper-accelerate solar is good.

Getting solar PV to work in concert with energy efficiency is good.

Getting all people to accept solar PV is good

Getting solar PV to low-income housing is good.

All of those good hopes make our Energy Debit Card GREAT!

It's coming..............

Bill Brobeck
Chief Technical Officer
Brobeck Solar Energy LLC
http://www.brobecksolarenergy.com/
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12 of 14
April 18, 2007
Hi Craig,

wonderfully said. Thank you very much for this contribution! I have expressed similar ideas at:
http://www.thinksunsmart.com/opinionpoll.htm

Craig, wenn Du einmal einen Artikel fur unsere Webseite schreiben willst, bist Du dazu herzlich eingeladen. Dein Englisch ist wirklich super. Wir haben unser Buero in Oldenburg. Lass bitte mal was von Dir hoeren. Sonnige Gruesse nach Freiburg. DANKE!
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13 of 14
May 8, 2007
Hi Graig good article maybe too much politics and too little technology trends for my taste though.

It is not rosy in Europe. Hardly any windmills are put up in Denmark and in spite of metering solar energy is slow too.

Best advice for the US is to wait. Politics won't bring about change but technology will. For 30 years windpower cost cuts has been 5% putting competitive energy sources under pressure. Within 30 years cheap artificial petrol made out of air can end the fossil age. My worry is that the PV guys do not get their act together before they are gone with the wind too. It is ridiculous that LCD displays cost less than a similar sized PV unit. Samsung claims 30% annual price cuts continues till 2012 - that's 85% in five years! Just for the record a LCD contains all the same components as a PV unit + a lot more.

US individuals are advised to buy wind company stocks as this combines handsome profits with non polluting energy sooner than any other strategy.
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14 of 14
December 31, 2008
.Hot Air has placed many regulations on what renewable products are qualified for Grants and rebate programs thru out the states. This Price tag on getting your product qualified is very much excessive and restricted to only the rich at heart. UL and CUL Certifications cost on Solar PV product line is $86,000.00 +- your products for testing. Then there are the state programs were as they want you to spend even more be accepted in Florida is an example state. All they are doing is leaching funds causing inflated prices of products used to save this country from excessive carbon abuse in energy generation. UL is a real example of a bad joke. How may UL coffee pots have you replaced in the last 5 years from your local discount store. UL is not a quality insurance of products long life safe operations. UL close dryers are an example cause more house fires than most other appliances. We need regulation of quality seal combine with a reasonable discount rate to get new products approved.
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