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Carbon Offset Sales Need New Impetus

March 28, 2007   |   12 Comments
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Unfortunately, few carbon offsets are actually sold today. The reason is not that consumers are unwilling to pay a small premium to help the environment. In fact, the evidence suggests that many people will.
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1 of 12
March 30, 2007
I find the concept of "buying" your way out of responsibility for your actions to be truly sad.
$0.005 to "offset" a kilowatt of energy--RU kidding me!?
For the well off--more business as usual--this can result in people like Al Gore buying his way out of his own "carbon deficit".
I must side with Keith Ritter's statements.
Until the market develops a standard scientific way to calculate offset quantities and quality, I would buy RECs instead.
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2 of 12
March 30, 2007
This article is an over-simplified discussion of what people think/hope carbon offsets are. In reality, it's much more complicated. To get an idea how complicated (and how the controversy is growing), read the blog maintained by <a href="http://www.terrapass.com/terrablog/index.html",>TerraPass</a>, a provider of carbon offsets. They've recently started to review some of the offset projects they funded because questions were raised about "additionality."
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3 of 12
March 30, 2007
According to my carbon-emission data, a typical gas-fired power plant creates about 1 lb of CO2 per kWh generated. A coal-fired plant creates about 2 lb CO2 per kWh.

The latest data I've seen about commercial wind farms is that the power costs about 8 cents/kWh. Therefore, it would appear that wind-power-based carbon-offsets should cost about 8 cents/kWh if displacing a natural gas fuel source, or 4 cents/kwh if displacing a coal carbon fuel source. I would expect PV power-based carbon offsets would be a lot more expensive, as PV power costs about 20-30 cents per kWh.

I must confess I'm in tune with the engineering side of power generation and and ignorant of exactly how the CO2 offset market works, so please correct any misinterpretations I have made about how the offset value is calculated. Maybe tree-planting is an order of magnitude cheaper than wind-power as far as $/lb of CO2-reduction cost is concerned.
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4 of 12
March 30, 2007
In addition, while offsets are good in the short term, they are an intermediate solution to the real issue. All this does is allow energy consumption to continue to be inefficient. Because, as before, the true cost of the energy usage will not be realized, even with the small premium. Meanwhile, I get to keep motoring around in my suburban and feel like I'm doing something for the environment. There's just something wrong about that.
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5 of 12
March 30, 2007
If I spend 5 cents more a gallon, who is going to assure me that I'm not just contributing 4.5 cents to some company. How is the company going to assure that my 5 cents absolutely covers the lifetime of the the CO2 I am going to emit. If they invest it in a wind energy program, then it better be running for the entire life of the CO2's atmospheric presence. In addition, who says that the wind program will not also be double billed as a contribution by the company or the consumers of the energy. That would be pretty convenient for the Offset Company to allow me to feel good for 5 cents/gal and then allow a consumer of renewable energy to feel good for however much per kwh.
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6 of 12
March 30, 2007
If you wanted to offset one kwh of electricity by supporting a wind energy project would you not have to pay the price that it cost for wind energy to produce one kwh of electricty. Wind energy costs way more than half a penny per kwh. This half a penny per kwh is therefore not really an offset but rather it is simply a tinny little tip that makes the guilty feeling consumer feel better.

Considering the whole scheeme of things does paying a nickel actually reduce the atomepheric carbon dioxide by twenty pounds? Planting trees may have many benefits for the environment but just exactly how does it accomplish atmospheric carbon reduction since the tree will get cut down sooner or later and perhaps within twenty years. The price you have to pay to offset carbon by planting trees is the price that it requires to plant enough trees so that the whole planets "tree mass" increases accordingly.
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7 of 12
March 30, 2007
So a company or person growing Miscanthus an energy crop used to make carbon neutral electricity and pellets for woodburning stoves would qualify as a producer of offsets?
How does the producer get in on this?
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8 of 12
March 31, 2007
Could you please consider looking for a champion for this orphaned Terra Preta(TP) Carbon Soil Technology.

The main hurtle now is to change the current perspective held by the IPCC that the soil carbon cycle is a wash, to one in which soil can be used as a massive and ubiquitous Carbon sink via Charcoal. Below are the first concrete steps in that direction;

Tackling Climate Change in the U.S.
Potential Carbon Emissions Reductions from Biomass by 2030
by Ralph P. Overend, Ph.D. and Anelia Milbrandt
National Renewable Energy Laboratory
http://www.ases.org/climatechange/toc/07_biomass.pdf


The organization 25x25 (see 25x'25 - Home) released it's (first-ever, 55-page )"Action Plan" ; see http://www.25x25.org/storage/25x25/d...ActionPlan.pdf
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9 of 12
April 1, 2007
I did not leave my link on the last message. Here it is for tree purchases http://repsite2.gmrep.com/?RepID=1372
or greggoza.gmrep.com
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10 of 12
April 1, 2007
Carbon Offsets are available. We just started trading selling them last week If you are interested write back and I'll get you more info.Greg Goza
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11 of 12
April 2, 2007
It's not as much a buy and hold market but an attitude of what can I do now for my part in conservation. Maybe even feeling good about leaving this world in better shape than (I) / we, found it in. It's an attitude of the mind. (Or) if you want to take it a step farther, I believe scripture refers to it as good stewardship--taking care of what God has allowed us to partake in or given us.
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12 of 12
April 2, 2007
It seems to me that the whole "investment" side of the equation is missing. While I, personally, might be willing to pay 5 cents for a carbon credit to neutralize the effect of a gallon of gas, this is not the full force of the market.

How does one by $10,000.00 worth of credits and trade them, at some point in the future for $10,100.00? This is the market force taht will propel this concept to a level that truely makes a difference. Let the market take over. I hear about CO2 sequestation but fail to grasp how the investment side pays off.

Any insight you can provide will be greatly appreciated.
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